Who Is Controlling the Budget Bill? Trump, Johnson, or Musk?

[khunJam]

13 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

You really don't keep up, do you?

Your beliefs are based on the mainstream media fantasyland programming and when you are triggered by the messages they send you, then you come here to let everyone know what they told you.

[transam]

1 minute ago, khunJam said:

Your beliefs are based on the mainstream media fantasyland programming and when you are triggered by the messages they send you, then you come here to let everyone know what they told you.

Really............

[khunJam]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Really............

Glad you agree!

[theblether]

Interesting to see people cracking up about normal American politics. It's far from the first time bills had to be adjusted and subjected to a re-vote.

 

So the answer to the question is "bipartisan." 

 

Bipartisan bills, who knew such a thing existed, eh? 

 

 

 

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[uncletiger]

20 minutes ago, theblether said:

Interesting to see people cracking up about normal American politics. It's far from the first time bills had to be adjusted and subjected to a re-vote.

 

So the answer to the question is "bipartisan." 

 

Bipartisan bills, who knew such a thing existed, eh? 

 

 

 

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Except it wasn't bipartisan. It was a complete and total victory by the deep state Uniparty. The Republican/Democrat divide is a facade that is way past its sell by date. I can't believe people still keep pushing that fairy tale.

 

The division now is between sovereigntists, represented by MAGA and Tump,  and globalists, repreresented by Democrats and RINOs.

 

The globalists won this battle. It wasn't some heroic act of compromise. It was defeat by a superior force. America lost.

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Who's a lame duck?

 

lame duck    noun

 

1.  An elected officeholder or group continuing in office during the period between failure to win an election and the inauguration of a successor.

2.  An officeholder who has chosen not to run for reelection or is ineligible for reelection.

3.  An ineffective person; a weakling.

 

Biden ticks the box on all three.

So does Trump. DUH. That is, if he follows the constitution. In his case, a big IF.

[Jingthing]

Well, at least the upcoming Musk regime won't be boring!

 

 

[theblether]

23 minutes ago, uncletiger said:

 

Except it wasn't bipartisan. It was a complete and total victory by the deep state Uniparty. The Republican/Democrat divide is a facade that is way past its sell by date. I can't believe people still keep pushing that fairy tale.

 

The division now is between sovereigntists, represented by MAGA and Tump,  and globalists, repreresented by Democrats and RINOs.

 

The globalists won this battle. It wasn't some heroic act of compromise. It was defeat by a superior force. America lost.

 

The bottom line is that Trump is not yet the President. The next Congress will have more Trump loyalists. 

 

JD Vance is the one to watch. 

[NoDisplayName]

23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So does Trump. DUH. That is, if he follows the constitution. In his case, a big IF.

 

You don't seem to understand that "lame duck" refers to a (p)resident who lost an election (or in this case dropped out), and has limited power/influence in the remaining months in office before the transition.

 

The term does not refer to the incoming President.

 

DUH, indeed.

[uncletiger]

23 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

The bottom line is that Trump is not yet the President. The next Congress will have more Trump loyalists. 

 

JD Vance is the one to watch. 

 

Disagree. Too many down ballot elections were stolen. The next Congress has just as many globalists with an 'R' after their name as this one, and even more Democrats in the House. If anything, the next Congress will be worse. Perhaps the elections in 2026 may finally yield results.

 

But nothing will change with the new Congress. It will continue to be a fight with Trump being forced to scrap for every inch against a DC Swamp that opposes the genuine reforms necessary for America.

[bubblegum]

On 12/20/2024 at 5:14 PM, frank83628 said:

Straight away with the same record, you got nothing else? 

You don't and you never have Rusky

[scottiejohn]

20 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

You don't seem to understand that "lame duck" refers to a (p)resident who lost an election (or in this case dropped out), and has limited power/influence in the remaining months in office before the transition.

Or is coming to the end of his second full term after the election of the new president elect!

 

Unlike the UK system where the handover is nearly instantaneous!

[NoDisplayName]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Or is coming to the end of his second full term after the election of the new president elect!

 

Unlike the UK system where the handover is nearly instantaneous!

 

Ezzacktfully!

 

You could refer to President Trump as a 'lame duck' in 2028, when Vance will be the President-elect.

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

You don't seem to understand that "lame duck" refers to a (p)resident who lost an election (or in this case dropped out), and has limited power/influence in the remaining months in office before the transition.

 

The term does not refer to the incoming President.

 

DUH, indeed.

No. It is you that doesn't understand.

 

Don’t Listen to Steve Bannon. Trump Will Be a Lame Duck, not a Third-Termer | Washington Monthly

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Don’t Listen to Steve Bannon. Trump Will Be a Lame Duck, not a Third-Termer

 

The MAGA movement podcaster nurses the fiction that Trump can be president-for-life because he’s afraid congressional Republicans will start disobeying Trump’s demands.

by Bill Scher December 19, 2024

 

Earlier this week, Steve Bannon—the former Trump aide and podcaster—told the New York Young Republican Club falsely that the president-elect could run for a third term in 2028, citing a claim from Trump’s legal adviser Mike Davis that the Constitution’s two-term limit, “doesn’t actually say consecutive.” A flood of headlines followed, suggesting Trump is preparing to trample the Constitution and cling to power.

Bannon, of course, is wrong. The 22nd Amendment is plain: “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.” There is no exception for non-consecutive terms. Twice means twice.

 

 

[bubblegum]

Only MAGA call their fellow Americans the enemy, just because they don't share the same ideology. Think about that for a moment.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Only MAGA call their fellow Americans the enemy, just because they don't share the same ideology. Think about that for a moment.

Of course, because it's an anti-democracy pro fascist movement or pro autocracy movement for the easily triggered.

I recall interviews with maga crowds during the campaign circus asking the cult members --- would you choose Harris or Putin? Always Putin.

American democracy is in deep peril. 

[NoDisplayName]

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No. It is you that doesn't understand.

 

Don’t Listen to Steve Bannon. Trump Will Be a Lame Duck, not a Third-Termer | Washington Monthly

 

 

Did you even bother to read the article you linked to, and posted a portion thereaponof?

 

"...the president-elect could run for a third term in 2028,..."

 

The author is speculating about the time between the 2028 election and the end of January 2029 when Vance will be sworn in, meaning Trump will be ticking box #2 following Vance's landslide victory.

 

He in no way says or implies that Trump will be a lame duck throughout his entire second maganificent term.

[Jingthing]

43 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Did you even bother to read the article you linked to, and posted a portion thereaponof?

 

"...the president-elect could run for a third term in 2028,..."

 

The author is speculating about the time between the 2028 election and the end of January 2029 when Vance will be sworn in, meaning Trump will be ticking box #2 following Vance's landslide victory.

 

He in no way says or implies that Trump will be a lame duck throughout his entire second maganificent term.

You're totally wrong.

 

https://theconversation.com/the-election-is-over-but-what-is-a-lame-duck-anyway-242377

 

The 2024 election has finally ended. What happens now?

There’s a 2½-month period between Election Day and Inauguration Day. It’s commonly known as the “lame-duck” period, when the outgoing president still holds official power but their successor has been chosen and is waiting to take the reins. Donald Trump is constitutionally barred from a third term in office by the 22nd Amendment, so he will be a lame duck from his first day in office, though his successor will not be known until 2028.

 

[NoDisplayName]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're totally wrong.

 

Enlighten us, unburden us from what has never be'd.

 

Seriously?  You think the entire term is a lame duck period?  No, it's only the final transition period.

 

 You should

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[illisdean]

As long as it ain't Biden, and it ain't, then all is in good hands with Team MAGA. No need to ask, unless you have some impairment typical of a democrat Biden luvin loser.