Greenland

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, theblether said:

The first 100 days of this administration may well be the most consequential in US history. 

I'll wait and see on that, but I certainly predict they'll be entertaining.

Things I'd like to see Trump do in the first 100 days

Finish the wall, ban mass immigration from dodgy countries.

roust up NATO to pay more and end the Ukraine conflict.

avoid meddling in the M E.

Cancel that climate agreement nonsense, and drill baby drill.

[GypsyT]

20 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

Busted! Trump’s Greenland Supporters Were Homeless and Socially Disadvantaged People Bribed With Hotel Dinners

What's more American than that!

[stevenl]

Back on topic, 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/denmark-accuses-china-russia-iran-espionage-threat-2022-01-13/

[illisdean]

On 1/11/2025 at 8:20 AM, spidermike007 said:

Trump spends his days talking nonsense.

If u r referring to Trumps plans for acquiring Greenland....if so, whats so non-sensical about that? Sounds like butt-hurt and hatred induced psychosis reactions. Trump can fix many problems and you (should) know this, but it irks you to see Trump succeed, ain't that a fact? Sad way to exist, waking up everyday hating....

Greenland’s leader Múte Egede says he is "prepared to enter into negotiations with President-elect Trump about the future of the mineral-rich arctic territory"

Appears President-elect Trumps making notable progress, early....still 8 days till inauguration. Trump is a doer, a leader with vision for America's future unlike the failed semi retarded corrupt Biden.

 

 

Greenland response to Trump

[0ffshore360]

On 12/25/2024 at 3:52 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Sadly, the woke agenda has been insinuated into western society for almost as long as I've been alive. It rots kids brains and they grow up thinking it's actually a "good thing" to be woke. It's too late for the western world to wake up- just a matter of time now. IMO.

 

I've even seem the creeping menace of wokeism infiltrating Thai society.

First hand from ?

[candide]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

If u r referring to Trumps plans for acquiring Greenland....if so, whats so non-sensical about that? Sounds like butt-hurt and hatred induced psychosis reactions. Trump can fix many problems and you (should) know this, but it irks you to see Trump succeed, ain't that a fact? Sad way to exist, waking up everyday hating....

Greenland’s leader Múte Egede says he is "prepared to enter into negotiations with President-elect Trump about the future of the mineral-rich arctic territory"

Appears President-elect Trumps making notable progress, early....still 8 days till inauguration. Trump is a doer, a leader with vision for America's future unlike the failed semi retarded corrupt Biden.

 

 

Greenland response to Trump

And it's not like Greenland, Denmark and the EU would have ever been open to cooperation with the U,S. on matters such as minerals or the Artic in general, or that there would even be partnerships already implemented!

Oh wait! 🤣

 

EU & US form Critical Minerals Security Partnership Forum

April 11, 2024

https://miningdigital.com/supply-chain-management/eu-us-form-critical-minerals-security-partnership

 

"Celebrating the 20th anniversary of the Igaliku Joint Declaration creating the Joint Committee, the Governments of the United States and Greenland met in Washington, D.C. on October 21-22, 2024, with the participation of the Government of Denmark, to strengthen our partnership and continue building on our shared goals across key areas of cooperation......

....Our collaboration on Greenland’s energy and mineral resource sectors continues to grow, especially in supporting clean energy deployment and responsible critical mineral development"

https://dk.usembassy.gov/u-s-greenland-joint-committee-statement-october-25-2024/

 

OCTOBER 07, 2022

FACT SHEET: The United States’ National Strategy for the Arctic Region

 

We will deepen our cooperation with Arctic Allies and partners: Canada, Kingdom of Denmark (including Greenland), Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/07/fact-sheet-the-united-states-national-strategy-for-the-arctic-region/

[illisdean]

On 1/10/2025 at 6:27 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

And easy for Trump to gift every citizen a million bucks to vote to join the US. Cheaper than a military invasion and should please the heck out of 60k eskimos.

 

[illisdean]

Just now, illisdean said:

 

and this....

[kwonitoy]

[theblether]

On 1/12/2025 at 8:28 AM, candide said:

And it's not like Greenland, Denmark and the EU would have ever been open to cooperation with the U,S. on matters such as minerals or the Artic in general, or that there would even be partnerships already implemented!

Oh wait! 🤣

 

EU & US form Critical Minerals Security Partnership Forum

April 11, 2024

https://miningdigital.com/supply-chain-management/eu-us-form-critical-minerals-security-partnership

 

"Celebrating the 20th anniversary of the Igaliku Joint Declaration creating the Joint Committee, the Governments of the United States and Greenland met in Washington, D.C. on October 21-22, 2024, with the participation of the Government of Denmark, to strengthen our partnership and continue building on our shared goals across key areas of cooperation......

....Our collaboration on Greenland’s energy and mineral resource sectors continues to grow, especially in supporting clean energy deployment and responsible critical mineral development"

https://dk.usembassy.gov/u-s-greenland-joint-committee-statement-october-25-2024/

 

OCTOBER 07, 2022

FACT SHEET: The United States’ National Strategy for the Arctic Region

 

We will deepen our cooperation with Arctic Allies and partners: Canada, Kingdom of Denmark (including Greenland), Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/07/fact-sheet-the-united-states-national-strategy-for-the-arctic-region/

 

Are you familiar with the word "treaty?"

[candide]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

 

Are you familiar with the word "treaty?"

Who talked about "treaty"?

(I'm not talking about NATO, Greenland is already part of it)

[theblether]

2 hours ago, candide said:

Who talked about "treaty"?

(I'm not talking about NATO, Greenland is already part of it)

 

My prediction, and it's only a prediction, is that there will be a triangular treaty which secures the territorial integrity of Greenland under the direct responsibility of the US state department. 

 

Sovereignty issues will be left with Denmark and Greenland. And before ya'll go off on one of your drivelous attacks, the USA is only reacting to Chinese attempts to get a foothold on the island. 

 

Denmark admits it has neglected the territory. The USA will bring the Monroe Doctrine hammer crashing down on both Greenland and the Panama Canal. Not a chance they will allow China to undermine US security on the American continent. 

 

By the way, I noted last year that ships were bidding over $400,000 to get fast access to the canal. One thing that's driving US maritime people insane is that there's a threat to the existence of the canal due to water mismanagement. 

 

There's more to this than people know. So ya'll should give it a rest with the anti-Trump agenda. 

[theblether]

Anyone interested in the Panama Canal issue? 

 

https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/low-water-levels-in-panama-canal-due-to-increasing-demand-exacerbated-by-el-nino-event/

[candide]

On 1/12/2025 at 3:28 PM, candide said:

And it's not like Greenland, Denmark and the EU would have ever been open to cooperation with the U,S. on matters such as minerals or the Artic in general, or that there would even be partnerships already implemented!

Oh wait! 🤣

 

EU & US form Critical Minerals Security Partnership Forum

April 11, 2024

https://miningdigital.com/supply-chain-management/eu-us-form-critical-minerals-security-partnership

 

"Celebrating the 20th anniversary of the Igaliku Joint Declaration creating the Joint Committee, the Governments of the United States and Greenland met in Washington, D.C. on October 21-22, 2024, with the participation of the Government of Denmark, to strengthen our partnership and continue building on our shared goals across key areas of cooperation......

....Our collaboration on Greenland’s energy and mineral resource sectors continues to grow, especially in supporting clean energy deployment and responsible critical mineral development"

https://dk.usembassy.gov/u-s-greenland-joint-committee-statement-october-25-2024/

 

OCTOBER 07, 2022

FACT SHEET: The United States’ National Strategy for the Arctic Region

 

We will deepen our cooperation with Arctic Allies and partners: Canada, Kingdom of Denmark (including Greenland), Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/07/fact-sheet-the-united-states-national-strategy-for-the-arctic-region/

 

2 hours ago, theblether said:

 

My prediction, and it's only a prediction, is that there will be a triangular treaty which secures the territorial integrity of Greenland under the direct responsibility of the US state department. 

 

Sovereignty issues will be left with Denmark and Greenland. And before ya'll go off on one of your drivelous attacks, the USA is only reacting to Chinese attempts to get a foothold on the island. 

 

Denmark admits it has neglected the territory. The USA will bring the Monroe Doctrine hammer crashing down on both Greenland and the Panama Canal. Not a chance they will allow China to undermine US security on the American continent. 

 

By the way, I noted last year that ships were bidding over $400,000 to get fast access to the canal. One thing that's driving US maritime people insane is that there's a threat to the existence of the canal due to water mismanagement. 

 

There's more to this than people know. So ya'll should give it a rest with the anti-Trump agenda. 

It's not necessary. Greenland is part of NATO and there is already a U.S. base in Greenland. So it's protected by art. 5.

 

As to China, it already failed its attempt to expand in Arctic countries, as you already know. And its been worse because of its support of Russia. Following China's example, the U.S. and the EU have defined an Artic Strategy. Denmark voted an investment screening act in 2021, in accordance with the 2019 EU Directive, and Greenland announced a declination of it (Greenland screening Act) in February 2024. The objective of both Acts is to protect national security and in particular to keep control of Infrastructures.

 

https://investmentpolicy.unctad.org/investment-laws/laws/435/denmark-investment-screening-act#:~:text=The purpose of this Act,through screening and potential intervention

 

https://kromannreumert.com/en/news/investment-screening-is-a-hot-topic-greenland-announces-its-own-investment-screening-act#:~:text=Investment screening underway in Greenland&text=The purpose of the announced,Greenlandic society's basic critical infrastructure.

 

I have posted additional information in a previous post above.

 

The U.S., , Denmark, Greenland and the EU did not wait for Trump's show to identify security and supplly issues, in particular re. China and Russia, and design solutions. They have already happily collaborated on these matters, without needing Trump's idiotic threats.

[theblether]

2 hours ago, candide said:

 

It's not necessary. Greenland is part of NATO and there is already a U.S. base in Greenland. So it's protected by art. 5.

 

As to China, it already failed its attempt to expand in Arctic countries, as you already know. And its been worse because of its support of Russia. Following China's example, the U.S. and the EU have defined an Artic Strategy. Denmark voted an investment screening act in 2021, in accordance with the 2019 EU Directive, and Greenland announced a declination of it (Greenland screening Act) in February 2024. The objective of both Acts is to protect national security and in particular to keep control of Infrastructures.

 

https://investmentpolicy.unctad.org/investment-laws/laws/435/denmark-investment-screening-act#:~:text=The purpose of this Act,through screening and potential intervention

 

https://kromannreumert.com/en/news/investment-screening-is-a-hot-topic-greenland-announces-its-own-investment-screening-act#:~:text=Investment screening underway in Greenland&text=The purpose of the announced,Greenlandic society's basic critical infrastructure.

 

I have posted additional information in a previous post above.

 

The U.S., , Denmark, Greenland and the EU did not wait for Trump's show to identify security and supplly issues, in particular re. China and Russia, and design solutions. They have already happily collaborated on these matters, without needing Trump's idiotic threats.

 

It is necessary as China already attempted to buy influence in Greenland in spite of all the things you listed. 

 

And NATO is not an anti-corruption defence force. Total red herring.

 

I find it astounding that people like you continue with this line of drivel when even the Danish government openly admits they failed in their duty of care for Greenland. 

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, theblether said:

 

It is necessary as China already attempted to buy influence in Greenland in spite of all the things you listed. 

 

And NATO is not an anti-corruption defence force. Total red herring.

 

I find it astounding that people like you continue with this line of drivel when even the Danish government openly admits they failed in their duty of care for Greenland. 

So, you think what Putin does to it's Neighborhood is necessary, to prevent more influence from Usa, Eu and, Nato in general?

 

What you say, nobody is free to choose who they Want to collaborate with. 

[theblether]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

So, you think what Putin does to it's Neighborhood is necessary, to prevent more influence from Usa, Eu and, Nato in general?

 

What you say, nobody is free to choose who they Want to collaborate with. 

 

You're not a student of history, eh? The Monroe Doctrine has been in place since 1837. And google "charge of the light brigade." 

 

These issues of which you speak with childish ignorance have been bubbling for centuries. 

 

Oh, and google "Grenada invasion." It hasn't been that long since the USA invaded territory controlled by an ally for security reasons. 

 

Do some research, man. 

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

You're not a student of history, eh? The Monroe Doctrine has been in place since 1837. And google "charge of the light brigade." 

 

These issues of which you speak with childish ignorance have been bubbling for centuries. 

 

Oh, and google "Grenada invasion." It hasn't been that long since the USA invaded territory controlled by an ally for security reasons. 

 

Do some research, man. 

Greenland fight for their independence as Greenlenders, and not Danish. They where colonized, remember? 

 

Panama is a good example of false claims, and being used as a brick in the ongoing trade war between USA and China

[theblether]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

 

You're not a student of history, eh? The Monroe Doctrine has been in place since 1837. And google "charge of the light brigade." 

 

These issues of which you speak with childish ignorance have been bubbling for centuries. 

 

Oh, and google "Grenada invasion." It hasn't been that long since the USA invaded territory controlled by an ally for security reasons. 

 

Do some research, man. 

 

Clarify - 1823, not 1837. The policy of non-interference in the Western hemisphere ( Americas) has been in place for 202 years. 

 

All you guys complaining about Trump insisting Greenland is barred from Chinese interference are off your delirious nuts. 

 

And, once again, even the Danes have publicly accepted they took their eye off the ball. Just give up on this topic and go back to arguing about the best cheap breakfast in Patts. 

 

 

[theblether]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Greenland fight for their independence as Greenlenders, and not Danish. They where colonized, remember? 

 

Panama is a good example of false claims, and being used as a brick in the ongoing trade war between USA and China

 

Greenland was not colonized. There was no one there. In fact, there's evidence the earliest settlers were Nordic. 

 

Then again, you'll be the same type of ahistorical balloon that thinks the Maoris are native to New Zealand ( lol ). 

 

Let me tell you something. 50 000 wandering inuits don't get to decide the security status of the USA and Northern Europe. 

 

And there's no false claims about Panama. Feel free to check the exorbitant fees charged for crossing last year. And if you think that China is not trying to buy influence you are truly delirious and out of your depth. 

 

They were even talking about building a second canal. 🙄Honestly, just give it a rest. Your ignorance is astounding. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/08/nicaragua-cancel-china-canal

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Greenland was not colonized. There was no one there. In fact, there's evidence the earliest settlers were Nordic. 

 

Then again, you'll be the same type of ahistorical balloon that thinks the Maoris are native to New Zealand ( lol ). 

 

Let me tell you something. 50 000 wandering inuits don't get to decide the security status of the USA and Northern Europe. 

 

And there's no false claims about Panama. Feel free to check the exorbitant fees charged for crossing last year. And if you think that China is not trying to buy influence you are truly delirious and out of your depth. 

 

They were even talking about building a second canal. 🙄Honestly, just give it a rest. Your ignorance is astounding. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/08/nicaragua-cancel-china-canal

😄

 

You do not see the controversy of your opinion at all do you? 

 

Well, obviously you living now, today, and see it through what we call a tunel sight.

[candide]

8 hours ago, theblether said:

 

It is necessary as China already attempted to buy influence in Greenland in spite of all the things you listed. 

 

And NATO is not an anti-corruption defence force. Total red herring.

 

I find it astounding that people like you continue with this line of drivel when even the Danish government openly admits they failed in their duty of care for Greenland. 

China failed years ago. You are making claims without backing them up with any source. 

All what I claimed is backed up by facts and sources.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/15/2025 at 6:35 AM, theblether said:

So ya'll should give it a rest with the anti-Trump agenda. 

I doubt they can. Without being able to post nasty insults on here about Trump their day would be spent crying that Trump is going to be POTUS for the next 4 years.

 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I doubt they can. Without being able to post nasty insults on here about Trump their day would be spent crying that Trump is going to be POTUS for the next 4 years.

 

What comes around, goes around, and you should understand that, or do you feel not guilty?

 

I despise Trump, his character, and what comes out of his mouth, and see him and the Magas as the biggest threat to our future.

 

Shallow people with little or no insight about the world at all. 

 

I dare to say stupidity have reached its maximum 

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

What comes around, goes around, and you should understand that, or do you feel not guilty?

 

I despise Trump, his character, and what comes out of his mouth, and see him and the Magas as the biggest threat to our future.

 

Shallow people with little or no insight about the world at all. 

 

I dare to say stupidity have reached its maximum 

 

 

 

That's fine and you are entitled to say what you think.

 

For myself I despise Biden, his character, and what comes out of his mouth, and see him, Democrats and the woke and liberals as the biggest threat to our future.

 

Shallow people with little or no insight about the world at all. 

 

I dare to say stupidity has reached its maximum.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/15/2025 at 7:16 PM, Hummin said:

😄

 

You do not see the controversy of your opinion at all do you? 

 

Well, obviously you living now, today, and see it through what we call a tunel sight.

Perhaps you can point out what was controversial about his post. I don't see anything controversial about it.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I dare to say stupidity has reached its maximum.

 

Bachman-Turner Overdrive spring to mind.

[theblether]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you can point out what was controversial about his post. I don't see anything controversial about it.

 

There was nothing controversial about my post. 

 

Nordic people were the first to inhabit Greenland. Fact. The Inuits crossed from modern day Canada to join them hundreds of years later. Hundreds of years. Fact. 

 

China has made several attempts to buy their way into Greenland. Fact. 

 

China proposed building a new canal via Nicaragua. Fact. 

 

China has attempted to influence the movement of shipping to its advantage on the Panama Canal. Fact. 

 

The Panama Canal fees have soared as water mismanagement has reduced the number of ships that can cross. Fact. 

 

The Internet is polluted by instant experts who pick up on the latest MSNBC agenda and grind it into a delirious pulp. 

 

On the other side there are people like me ( a Brit ) who have watched these developments for over thirty-five years and have the ability to retain information. Right now I could freehand a 10,000 word essay on what went wrong in the USA's relationship with China. 

 

In my next post I'll bulletpoint it instead. Many Americans won't be happy with what I point out. I'll be brief. 

[theblether]

1979. Jimmy Carter's disastrous year. That idiot of a man signed the One China policy which injected a massive dose of adrenalin into the ultra-xenophobes in the CCP and military. 

 

He sold the Shah of Iran out, and we are still paying as he was replaced by scum Islamist terrorists. 

 

The Russians reacted to the One China policy, which was aimed at curtailing them, by invading Afghanistan. While it's accepted it was a disaster, it was a horrendous shock to the West and our economies tanked while gold prices etc soared. 

 

Oh, and the hostages.......thanks, Carter - you really effed all that up, eh? 

 

............

 

1989. Bush Snr. Tianamen Square. I suggest Americans go read the intelligence reports. What happened there was unbroadcastable. Mass rape, murder, people deliberately liquidised by tanks, set alight and their remains power washed into the sewers. 

 

Bush did nothing. Cheap sneakers at Walmart were more important than reacting to the CCP putting down a marker. The CCP couldn't believe its luck and again it shot adrenalin through the veins of the ultra-xenophobes. 

 

Bush was diverted within weeks by the Kuwait invasion. Would he have reacted differently to China if that hadn't happened? I'm dubious. Commercial pressure was high. 

 

Clinton. Celebrated the arrival of vast amounts of cheap goods from China and received the temporary boost to the economy of price deflation. Always going to be temporary as the true price of cheap sneakers was the deindustrialization of the American heartland. Well done, Clinton. 

 

But here's where it gets bizarre. China set out to ban all US Internet platforms, copied them, then sold them back to America. Bush jnr and Obama allowed this to happen. 

 

Now we are at a point as Rubio correctly stated yesterday, the American lifestyle will be dependent on China's willingness to supply goods because the USA is now a service economy. 

 

Blood pressure medication is only the start. Virtually all medical devices are dependent on China at some point. 

 

Was this the cunning plan envisaged by Carter and One China? To have us on our knees, in debt and begging for medicine? Cos that's whats happening. 

 

And here we have the town clowns growling about Trump saying enough is enough. These clowns don't understand that they are Marx's useful fools.  

 

And don't kid yourself that the USA is immune. When a country can't supply its basic goods its in trouble. If you think it's bad enough now, wait till you see it in 2040. 

 

 

[candide]

2 hours ago, theblether said:

China has made several attempts to buy their way into Greenland. Fact. 

China failed, as you know. Fact. The U.S., the EU, Denmark and Greenland have since defined policies and laws to prevent China from doing that again. As you know (links posted before). Fact. The China threat is already under control.