Social Media Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 A famine warning for northern Gaza issued by the Famine Early Warning Systems Network (FEWS NET), a USAID-funded initiative, has been withdrawn following criticism from U.S. officials and Israeli authorities. The report, published earlier this week, painted a dire picture of the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, citing figures from the United Nations and warning of a "near-total blockade" leading to food insecurity for tens of thousands of Palestinians but replied on flawed data. FEWS NET initially reported that between 65,000 and 75,000 civilians in northern Gaza faced severe risk under the ongoing Israeli siege. The report emphasized the precarious situation of those "unable to or prevented from evacuating" amidst limited humanitarian and commercial food supplies. However, the U.S. Ambassador to Israel, Jacob Lew, publicly rebuked the report, labeling its data "outdated and inaccurate." In a statement, Lew explained, "We have worked closely with the Government of Israel and the UN to provide greater access to the North Governorate, and it is now apparent that the civilian population in that part of Gaza is in the range of 7,000-15,000, not 65,000-75,000 which is the basis of this report." The Israeli regulatory body for Gaza, COGAT (Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories), provided even lower estimates, stating that the population in the affected area was between 5,000 and 9,000. Meanwhile, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) offered a higher estimate of 10,000 to 15,000 civilians. COGAT also criticized the unnamed report on social media, asserting it "deliberately and inaccurately ignores the extensive humanitarian efforts made by Israel in the northern Gaza Strip" and "creates a false representation for the international community." The agency declined to respond to further inquiries regarding the FEWS NET publication. The swift withdrawal of the report has raised questions about the balance between accurately reporting humanitarian conditions and navigating diplomatic pressures. While FEWS NET has not commented publicly on its decision to remove the report, the retraction underscores the sensitive nature of information dissemination during times of conflict. The initial warning by FEWS NET, though now retracted, highlights the urgent need for clarity and accountability in assessing the situation in northern Gaza. As both Israeli authorities and international organizations debate the severity of the crisis, the lives of those trapped in the besieged area remain at risk, leaving the international community with an ongoing challenge to provide effective and timely aid. Based on a report by NYT | JI 2024-12-27 Related Posts: The Gaza Famine Has Been Cancelled Unmasking the Propaganda Against Israel 1
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted December 26, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 26, 2024 Palestinian side caught lying yet again . All their baseless claims need to be fully investigated for honesty and truthfulness 7 3
Popular Post koolkarl Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 Any info published by muslims is not to be trusted and likely propaganda to gather pity from the world thru an outlet like Aljazeera. Let the rich Arab oil countries provide for their own instead of bilking the west who are broke themselves. 4 4 2
Popular Post bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, koolkarl said: Any info published by muslims is not to be trusted and likely propaganda to gather pity from the world thru an outlet like Aljazeera. Let the rich Arab oil countries provide for their own instead of bilking the west who are broke themselves. Why Muslim sources and not Jewish? You trust those photos in the Jewish News Syndicate? What incredible bias! You don't think Israel uses propaganda? They've been bombing and blockading Gaza for over a year. What do you think the likely effects of that might be, in addition to the deaths of over 45,000 civilians, and the wounding of over 100,000? The only reason they can get away with it is because of the White House's fanatical supporter for fanatical Israelis. And the blind support from islamophobes such as you. 2 5 2 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, bradiston said: Why Muslim sources and not Jewish? You trust those photos in the Jewish News Syndicate? What incredible bias! You don't think Israel uses propaganda? They've been bombing and blockading Gaza for over a year. What do you think the likely effects of that might be, in addition to the deaths of over 45,000 civilians, and the wounding of over 100,000? The only reason they can get away with it is because of the White House's fanatical supporter for fanatical Israelis. And the blind support from islamophobes such as you. Here we have some more lies that should be retracted just like the Famine report which was based on false data. 2 4
Social Media Posted December 27, 2024 Author Posted December 27, 2024 A couple of extremely antisemitic and hate speech troll posts making unattibuted claims in two seperate Israel related topics have been removed @MalcolmB 1 1
Popular Post koolkarl Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 1 hour ago, bradiston said: Why Muslim sources and not Jewish? You trust those photos in the Jewish News Syndicate? What incredible bias! You don't think Israel uses propaganda? They've been bombing and blockading Gaza for over a year. What do you think the likely effects of that might be, in addition to the deaths of over 45,000 civilians, and the wounding of over 100,000? The only reason they can get away with it is because of the White House's fanatical supporter for fanatical Israelis. And the blind support from islamophobes such as you. If you are an infidel and sounds like you are not, then you should be very concerned as you should refer to the koran as to your destiny. Israel didn't start this mess and your Hamas buddies refuse to surrender and continue to hold the hostages. If the latter reverses then I am sure all bombing stops. The muslims do not rebel against Hamas and are very complicit in the years it took to build those tunnels. Propaganda is one tool the muslims use. Israel doesn't need to use it and I have yet to read about Israeli propaganda during this particular mess. 1 3 1 2
Popular Post bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Here we have some more lies that should be retracted just like the Famine report which was based on false data. Your sources? 2 1
Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 1 minute ago, bradiston said: Your sources? Lets start off with credible links to your claims first....... 1 hour ago, bradiston said: Why Muslim sources and not Jewish? You trust those photos in the Jewish News Syndicate? What incredible bias! You don't think Israel uses propaganda? They've been bombing and blockading Gaza for over a year. What do you think the likely effects of that might be, in addition to the deaths of over 45,000 civilians, and the wounding of over 100,000? The only reason they can get away with it is because of the White House's fanatical supporter for fanatical Israelis. And the blind support from islamophobes such as you. Once you've done that then absolutely, my sources will be linked to, or you could just find them yourself, there's a new topic about it but I see you have real difficulties with facts
Popular Post bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 1 hour ago, koolkarl said: If you are an infidel and sounds like you are not, then you should be very concerned as you should refer to the koran as to your destiny. Israel didn't start this mess and your Hamas buddies refuse to surrender and continue to hold the hostages. If the latter reverses then I am sure all bombing stops. The muslims do not rebel against Hamas and are very complicit in the years it took to build those tunnels. Propaganda is one tool the muslims use. Israel doesn't need to use it and I have yet to read about Israeli propaganda during this particular mess. Absurd post. If I was an infidel why would I look to the Koran for my destiny? Israel uses propaganda constantly. Look at the link to the Jewish News Syndicate. 1 2
bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Lets start off with credible links to your claims first....... Once you've done that then absolutely, my sources will be linked to, or you could just find them yourself, there's a new topic about it but I see you have real difficulties with facts Your facts, my lies, right? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel–Hamas_war https://www.statista.com/statistics/1422308/palestinian-territories-israel-number-fatalities-and-injuries-caused-by-the-israel-and-hamas-war/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-12-16-2024-9f7c8f0df71dc4c97a6b31aed6e13304 Need more? Try googling it. Every single source agrees. Don't try gaslighting me. "have difficulty with facts"? You haven't presented any. 1
Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 Just now, bradiston said: Your facts, my lies, right? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel–Hamas_war https://www.statista.com/statistics/1422308/palestinian-territories-israel-number-fatalities-and-injuries-caused-by-the-israel-and-hamas-war/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-12-16-2024-9f7c8f0df71dc4c97a6b31aed6e13304 Need more? Try googling it. Every single source agrees. Don't try gaslighting me. "have difficulty with facts"? You haven't presented any. Yes correct, your lies, there have not been 45,000 civilians killed, that is an outright lie. My facts: Gaza Famine Alert Retracted Amid Diplomatic Backlash & Incorrect Data https://aseannow.com/topic/1347177-gaza-famine-alert-retracted-amid-diplomatic-backlash-incorrect-data/ 1 1
bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Palestinian side caught lying yet again . All their baseless claims need to be fully investigated for honesty and truthfulness FEWS.NET is an American sponsored organisation. They published the famine alert, not the Palestinians. But of course the American ambassador and Israel don't like any adverse publicity, even their own. 2
Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, bradiston said: FEWS.NET is an American sponsored organisation. They published the famine alert, not the Palestinians. But of course the American ambassador and Israel don't like any adverse publicity, even their own. Actually it was UNRWA that confirmed the data is wrong and agreed with the US officials rather than the report.
bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 35 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Actually it was UNRWA that confirmed the data is wrong and agreed with the US officials rather than the report. I thought UNWRA was a proscribed organisation? FEWS.NET published it. They are a USAID sponsored organisation. https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/november-2024 Check it out. Read the sources. You're just reading the US/Israeli reactions.
Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, bradiston said: I thought UNWRA was a proscribed organisation? FEWS.NET published it. They are a USAID sponsored organisation. https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/november-2024 Check it out. Read the sources. You're just reading the US/Israeli reactions. Why not read the OP, its all in there. Fews claimed 65-70k there. Wrong, that's the facts. Even UNRWA disagreed with them. Still waiting for your link in the other OP for your claim that 45,000 civilians have been killed........ 6 hours ago, Social Media said: However, the U.S. Ambassador to Israel, Jacob Lew, publicly rebuked the report, labeling its data "outdated and inaccurate." In a statement, Lew explained, "We have worked closely with the Government of Israel and the UN to provide greater access to the North Governorate, and it is now apparent that the civilian population in that part of Gaza is in the range of 7,000-15,000, not 65,000-75,000 which is the basis of this report." The Israeli regulatory body for Gaza, COGAT (Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories), provided even lower estimates, stating that the population in the affected area was between 5,000 and 9,000.Meanwhile, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) offered a higher estimate of 10,000 to 15,000 civilians.
bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Why not read the OP, its all in there. Fews claimed 65-70k there. Wrong, that's the facts. Even UNRWA disagreed with them. Your sources are all Israeli biased. Even the Colombia professors are. But as I said before, FEWS is a division of USAID. So don't blame the Palestinians if the US gets it's facts wrong, which incidentally, I don't believe it has. It wasn't the Palestinians who produced this report. Right? Here's the link again. I don't see any sign of a retraction. https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/november-2024
Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, bradiston said: Your sources are all Israeli biased. Even the Colombia professors are. But as I said before, FEWS is a division of USAID. So don't blame the Palestinians if the US gets it's facts wrong, which incidentally, I don't believe it has. It wasn't the Palestinians who produced this report. Right? Here's the link again. I don't see any sign of a retraction. https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/november-2024 More lies from you, that report is from Nov, here is the retracted page where the report was: https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/december-2024
Popular Post mokwit Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, koolkarl said: Propaganda is one tool the muslims use. Israel doesn't need to use it and I have yet to read about Israeli propaganda during this particular mess. OK, got it, Israel is not using propaganda. 1 1 1
Popular Post mokwit Posted December 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2024 3 hours ago, koolkarl said: Any info published by muslims is not to be trusted and likely propaganda to gather pity from the world thru an outlet like Aljazeera. Let the rich Arab oil countries provide for their own instead of bilking the west who are broke themselves. Information from Israel is completely trustworthy though? It's just the one side using propaganda, right? 1 1 1 1
bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: More lies from you, that report is from Nov, here is the retracted page where the report was: https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/december-2024 And here's the full statement from Al Jazeera. I've already reported you once for calling me a liar. Twice won't harm. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/26/retraction-of-us-backed-gaza-famine-report-draws-anger-scrutiny
bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: More lies from you, that report is from Nov, here is the retracted page where the report was: https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/december-2024 And more distortion from you. This was an entirely US backed report and it was only when they read it did they and the Israeli government throw up their hands in horror and hastily get the counteroffensive of denial and denigration going. Obviously they've tried to totally discredit it. But it won't work. The cats been out of the bag for a very long time.
Yagoda Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 Translation: If it accuses Israel of something, it is a lie. Sort of like the blood libel the National Socialists love.
Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 40 minutes ago, bradiston said: And more distortion from you. This was an entirely US backed report and it was only when they read it did they and the Israeli government throw up their hands in horror and hastily get the counteroffensive of denial and denigration going. Obviously they've tried to totally discredit it. But it won't work. The cats been out of the bag for a very long time. You claimed it had not been retracted. It has. FACT and I never claimed anything about Fews not being a US based org.
Bkk Brian Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 23 minutes ago, bradiston said: And here's the full statement from Al Jazeera. I've already reported you once for calling me a liar. Twice won't harm. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/26/retraction-of-us-backed-gaza-famine-report-draws-anger-scrutiny You were lying, you supplied a link claiming the report was there. Its not. Thats the old Nov report. 3 hours ago, bradiston said: Your sources are all Israeli biased. Even the Colombia professors are. But as I said before, FEWS is a division of USAID. So don't blame the Palestinians if the US gets it's facts wrong, which incidentally, I don't believe it has. It wasn't the Palestinians who produced this report. Right? Here's the link again. I don't see any sign of a retraction. https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/november-2024 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: More lies from you, that report is from Nov, here is the retracted page where the report was: https://fews.net/middle-east-and-asia/gaza/alert/december-2024 Facts matter. Here's a few more from the OP confirming it was withdawn: The swift withdrawal of the report has raised questions about the balance between accurately reporting humanitarian conditions and navigating diplomatic pressures. While FEWS NET has not commented publicly on its decision to remove the report, the retraction underscores the sensitive nature of information dissemination during times of conflict.
Nick Carter icp Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 6 hours ago, bradiston said: in addition to the deaths of over 45,000 civilians, 1 hour ago, bradiston said: And here's the full statement from Al Jazeera. I've already reported you once for calling me a liar. Twice won't harm. 45 000 civilians have NOT been killed . What you wrote isn't true . You MUST know that your figure isn't true , it been refuted many times already, yet you still keep posting untrue figures 1 1
JonnyF Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 That's a shame. I heard Geldoff was rehearsing "do they know its Ram A Dam at alllll". 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 5 hours ago, bradiston said: FEWS.NET is an American sponsored organisation. They published the famine alert, not the Palestinians. But of course the American ambassador and Israel don't like any adverse publicity, even their own. Where did FEWS.NET get their info from ? Really doesn't matter where they come from , they can be a pro Palarstiand group from the USSA deliberately spreading lies about what is happening in Gaza , bit I expect that FEWS.NET got all their info from a Palestinian source inside Gaza 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: That's a shame. I heard Geldoff was rehearsing "do they know its Ram A Dam at alllll". In our World of plenty , where the Government have taken our heating payments Well Tonight thank Yahweh its them, instead of you 1
bradiston Posted December 27, 2024 Posted December 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: You were lying, you supplied a link claiming the report was there. Its not. Thats the old Nov report. Facts matter. Here's a few more from the OP confirming it was withdawn: The swift withdrawal of the report has raised questions about the balance between accurately reporting humanitarian conditions and navigating diplomatic pressures. While FEWS NET has not commented publicly on its decision to remove the report, the retraction underscores the sensitive nature of information dissemination during times of conflict. Search as I might I can't find any retraction by FEWS, only references to it by 3rd parties. Where does FEWS announce its retraction? Not on their website as far as I can see. The Nov 12th post is the last on the subject there. Maybe you have a link to it?
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