"Climate Change" is causing the LA fires...or is it?

[connda]

"Climate Change" is causing the LA fires (pan to video of arsonist setting a palm tree on fire)

 

Of course it is. 

Wildfires and the Hoary Hoax of a Burning Planet

by David Stockman
"Here they go again, blaming the wildfire catastrophe in Los Angeles on Climate Change when the actual culprits are the very politicians who never stop howling about what is a monumental hoax.

In the first place, of course, the current raging California fires, like those which have periodically gone before, are largely a function of misguided government policies. Officials have essentially curtailed the supply of water available to LA firefighters, even as they have drastically increased the supply of combustible kindling and vegetation which feeds these wildfires. The latter, in turn, are being amplified by the seasonal Santa Ana winds, which have visited the California coast since time immemorial."

 

<complete story below linked here>

https://brownstone.org/articles/wildfires-and-the-hoary-hoax-of-a-burning-planet/

 

[Hawaiian]

Today's, January 14, edition of the NY Times has a cartoon depicting how misinformation spreads like wildfire.  How true.

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

Yes and the hand wringing will continue about how humans are wrecking the planet by the very act of exhaling.

 

At least carbon taxes will fix it.

 

Remember Lahaina?

 

( Hint: GET OFF THE LAND )

[BritManToo]

53 minutes ago, connda said:

"Here they go again, blaming the wildfire catastrophe in Los Angeles on Climate Change when the actual culprits are the very politicians who never stop howling about what is a monumental hoax."

Didn't they just catch an illegal homeless Mexican with a blowtorch?

Maybe the fires are terrorism, and not climate change.

 

Maybe they should forget climate change and concentrate on fixing illegals and homelessness.

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

16 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Today's, January 14, edition of the NY Times has a cartoon depicting how misinformation spreads like wildfire.  How true.

So are you saying the OP's link is misinfo

 

or

 

the narrative that "climate change" (and not arson and/or direct energy weapon) is the catalyst for the wildfires is misinfo?

[OneMoreFarang]

Who thought it is a good idea to build lots of wooden houses in areas which had high fire risks since a long time?

 

[OneMoreFarang]

According to several studies the current temperature is about 1 to 1.5 degree Celsius higher than 100 years ago.

Should we believe that that make such a huge difference to the current fires? 

[Hawaiian]

13 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

So are you saying the OP's link is misinfo

 

or

 

the narrative that "climate change" (and not arson and/or direct energy weapon) is the catalyst for the wildfires is misinfo?

Nope.  Just a general comment about misinformation.

[Hawaiian]

15 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

So are you saying the OP's link is misinfo

 

or

 

the narrative that "climate change" (and not arson and/or direct energy weapon) is the catalyst for the wildfires is misinfo?

That's your interpretation.  Not mine. 

[Hummin]

10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

According to several studies the current temperature is about 1 to 1.5 degree Celsius higher than 100 years ago.

Should we believe that that make such a huge difference to the current fires? 

Periodic less rain and higher temperatures is just plain physics in a combo with more wind due to temperatures changing at a coastal enviroment.

 

 

[connda]

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

According to several studies the current temperature is about 1 to 1.5 degree Celsius higher than 100 years ago.

Should we believe that that make such a huge difference to the current fires? 

The Climate Change activists need to broaden their view from 100 years to 10,000 years.  The Earth has been heating and cooling for millenniums. And after it gets warm, it will get cold again - hot/cold cyclically ad-infinitum. And it will continue to do so well after man has wiped humanity off the planet. 


 

[NorthernRyland]

Could this fire have started 100 years ago? Was there dry brush and high winds this time of year 100 years ago? yes of course. The biggest thing that changed is you have millions of people occupying the land and they have ready access to lighters and other ways to start fires, not to mention electrical lines which are known source of fires and even prompting new lines to be built underground.

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Could this fire have started 100 years ago? Was there dry brush and high winds this time of year 100 years ago? yes of course. The biggest thing that changed is you have millions of people occupying the land and they have ready access to lighters and other ways to start fires, not to mention electrical lines which are known source of fires and even prompting new lines to be built underground.

periodic bush and forrest fires is normal world wide, some places there is more fire because of human activity, other places it is less. 

 

But still tragic for those who get hurt one way or the other

[SanSaiExPat]

18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Who thought it is a good idea to build lots of wooden houses in areas which had high fire risks since a long time?

 

Actually many of the more expensive homes are cement and steel structures.

[kwonitoy]

19 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Today's, January 14, edition of the NY Times has a cartoon depicting how misinformation spreads like wildfire.  How true.

 

Is this the one?

[Hawaiian]

28 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

 

Is this the one?

That is not the one I was referring to, but it depicts a very similar message.  I did not bookmark the cartoon I was referring to and have not been able to locate it.  I do recall it was a firefighter in action with the word "misinformation" coming from his water hose.

[Merrill]

Believe that you will believe anything. The climate has always changed we are a product on Earth and mother Earth will eliminate use the moment we are an issue. Most don’t know that the CO2 content on Earth is 0.04% of Tha man’s contribution is .011% an insignificant amount. Now we need CO2 for plant growth without it we die not mention that according to ice core samples this is the lowest CO2 has ever been. We won’t talk about how Tesco and all big supermarkets keep the veggies fresh yip you guessed it the bags are filled with Co2. More CO2 more growth but sadly the masses just much away and fall for the constant barrage of endlessly propaganda while Chine India build coal fired power stations by the month while in the West we pay and are squeezed daily.

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, kwonitoy said:

 

 

Is this the one?

Please disregard my last post.  It's actually from Texas based Reform Austin.

https:www.reformaustin.org/political-cartoons/spreading-like/ 

If the link doesn't work you may have to print it out in your search.  It's by Nick Anderson, staff cartoonist.

[spidermike007]

Many scientists and meteorologists agree that last year was the hottest year in 138,000 years. That was not a coincidence and climate change is happening, big time. Are we causing it? That is likely. We are behaving as if we have 9 alternative planets to move to, as soon as we trash this one. 

 

Many will say I am not responsible, I have not contributed to these problems, if they exist at all, and nothing that I do could possibly have an effect on some place as large as the earth or it's vast oceans.

 

So stop picking on me and stop asking me to take responsibility, because I won't. Plastic is not harmful and I won't make any attempt to cut down on my use of it. Gas and diesel vehicles are not harmful and therefore I will make no attempt to drive one that consumes less gas, or to use a bicycle, or even a motorbike. I like gas guzzlers, so again I ask please leave me alone. I won't do anything and nothing will make a difference anyway. And besides all this is just a big coincidence. 

[connda]

"Therefore, “there is pretty much a direct line from [Trump’s] policies for fossil fuel use to increased wildfire,”
-Professor James Clark

I agree 100%.  Arsonists will take fossil fuels, pour them on trees and shrubs, light them, and viola! 
Fossil fuels cause wildfires.

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, Merrill said:

Believe that you will believe anything. The climate has always changed we are a product on Earth and mother Earth will eliminate use the moment we are an issue. Most don’t know that the CO2 content on Earth is 0.04% of Tha man’s contribution is .011% an insignificant amount. Now we need CO2 for plant growth without it we die not mention that according to ice core samples this is the lowest CO2 has ever been. We won’t talk about how Tesco and all big supermarkets keep the veggies fresh yip you guessed it the bags are filled with Co2. More CO2 more growth but sadly the masses just much away and fall for the constant barrage of endlessly propaganda while Chine India build coal fired power stations by the month while in the West we pay and are squeezed daily.

All that is fine and numbers we really do not know much about yet, but we starts to get an overview of how this have actually changed and influenced climate during 100 000 of years due to ice samples which gives us quite accurate numbers of the big events that have actually changed climates temporary.

 

The biggest problem is defforesting and removing old forests, rain and tropical forests, important wet lands, tundras melting, human made emissions do affect the atmosphere, 

 

If we can change local environment, we for sure change the world enviroment, and this is on the top of natural cycles. 

 

Remember, humans have just actually existed on this level for only 100 years if not less. 

 

Open your eyes, we poisoning our environment, and not only for our selves, but everything we going to live of to. 

 

Again, I have no kids, I do not worry, and really do not care,.but sad to see the pure stupidity and people who lives in denial. 

 

You guys see the madness, and still do not want to believe in a better future for your own kids! 

 

Everyone knew smoking was bad, but how many lived in denial as long the tobacco companies addressed the lies through their marketing? And some of you guys still smoking, and still offended you guys can not smoke in public the same way as before. 

[Hummin]

19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Many scientists and meteorologists agree that last year was the hottest year in 138,000 years. That was not a coincidence and climate change is happening, big time. Are we causing it? That is likely. We are behaving as if we have 9 alternative planets to move to, as soon as we trash this one. 

Moving polluting mining and production to the space is the answer. 

[wavodavo]

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Didn't they just catch an illegal homeless Mexican with a blowtorch?

Maybe the fires are terrorism, and not climate change.

 

Maybe they should forget climate change and concentrate on fixing illegals and homelessness.

What California in got to do is get rid of the greenies that run the place and start doing controlled burns in the canyons and mountains and get the residents to move large trees and shrubs and long grass that is too close to their houses. I watched videos of the fires and the fire raced up the mountain and the row of houses backing on to it  had dry grass and trees right up to their back patio The firies had no hope of saving those houses.they could only move away and watch them burn.Then there was the dry fire hydrants.  !!! Thats another story.

[wavodavo]

21 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Moving polluting mining and production to the space is the answer. 

What a stupid statement..weather records going back 138,000 years.when was the thermonitor invented ???? Absolute b.s. 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, wavodavo said:

What a stupid statement..weather records going back 138,000 years.when was the thermonitor invented ???? Absolute b.s. 

Natural catastrophes and coexistence happenings such as defforesting on a larger scales has happened before humans as well. 

 

It is not really a big Brainer to understand nature produce emissions to, and when we contribute as well, it has a devastating effect. 

 

Stupid me or the naysayers who cant understand? 

 

Do you believe wa can change local climate? 

[KhunLA]

16 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

What California in got to do is get rid of the greenies that run the place and start doing controlled burns in the canyons and mountains and get the residents to move large trees and shrubs and long grass that is too close to their houses. I watched videos of the fires and the fire raced up the mountain and the row of houses backing on to it  had dry grass and trees right up to their back patio The firies had no hope of saving those houses.they could only move away and watch them burn.Then there was the dry fire hydrants.  !!! Thats another story.

Before the greenies where here, men thinking they know better than mother nature, really screwed themselves when they mismanaged use of Lake Corcoran & Tulare Lake.

 

Greed .... You just can't fix stupid

 

 

[kingstonkid]

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Didn't they just catch an illegal homeless Mexican with a blowtorch?

Maybe the fires are terrorism, and not climate change.

 

Maybe they should forget climate change and concentrate on fixing illegals and homelessness.

 

The fire service has sated that a lot of these fires are caused by the homeless that live in the mountains.  The other thing that has or is a problem is the lack of upgrading hydro.  

A recent interview with Adam Carola who lives there, was that the hydro poles are old and decaying and there is a need to replce them or put the wires underground.  But the eco weirdos are stopping it because they don't want the earth upset.

 

The other catch is the stupidity of the California people. They see these people or things they elect worrying about reparations, sanctuary states, raising the minimum wage, outlawing everything electric, and not really caring about the state itself. Money has been given to them to build desalination plants and reservoirs, but because it might hurt a little fishy or a smelt, it can't be done.

 

The forests are not maintained to clear away dead brush, and it is illegal for a person to do it, even if it is beside their property.

 

They have had massive fires there for over  2 CENTURIES AT LEAST, but they still l do not get the idea.

 

The fun for this state is going to be when people try to rebuild their houses and find out that they can't due to the new rules that have been in place for the building codes as well as the different parts of the California government that have to authorize the new buildings.

 

 

 

 

[BangkokHank]

Here's another plausible explanation for the fires: directed energy weapons.

 

https://gregreese.substack.com/p/directed-energy-weapons-burning-homes

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Many scientists and meteorologists agree that last year was the hottest year in 138,000 years.

I would love to see the measurement over those years. Who measured? How did they measure? And how was it recorded?

 

As far as I know the oldest handwritten document is less than 5000 years old. And as far as I know that wasn't about the weather.

I am looking forward seeing your documents from the 133,000 years before that.

[Surasak]

The Twilight Zone.    Imagine if you will... A world where people believe, that the temperature of the planet can be controlled by giving money to the government....