2 hours ago, kwilco said:

this just shows how people fail to understand the science -VERY ACCURATELY.

The predictions for the future are based on climate models. And those models are far away from accurate.

We can agree that humans contributed to climate change. But what difference will it make in 100 years? What inventions will we have within the next 100 years and beyond? Nobody knows! 

 

Over 100 years horse manure, see picture, was the biggest crisis in NYC. And then someone invented the automobile, and that crisis was gone. I wonder how many people predicted that dramatic change at that time.

 

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

We can agree that humans contributed to climate change.

Nah, not really.   Humans are too insignificant to matter to climate change.  

 

If no humans on the planet, it would be changing as it had in the past, when humans weren't in existence, or even less significant.

 

What to blame back then, dinosaur farts 

 

Climate change, like most dramas, are nothing more than money grabs.

While it is obvious that deliberate and continual ultra large scale human endeavours like the Amazon deforestation or the draining of the Aral lake, will have severe climate change effects locally, the global impact of human causes on climate change is neglible compared with natural causes like volcano-eruptions.  Look up Hunga Tonga, the underwater vulcano eruption that had a vast global impact (and which was not foreseen in the climate change models).

But 'climate change' has become a buzzword and is used as an argument/excuse for many ridiculously short-sighted initiatives to guilt-talk people into compliance with changes that only benefit the agenda of those that want full control over the populaces behaviour and make a hefty profit on the so-called 'needed change'.

 

 

On 1/17/2025 at 11:21 AM, Red Phoenix said:

there were similar completely spared buildings and trees in devastated burnt-to-the-ground areas in Maui, Hawai in August 2023. 

 

On 1/17/2025 at 11:59 AM, Hummin said:

Same source? 

 

Nope, but you might be interested in this article by Kyle M. Young who provides some compelling evidence in his substack that the LA forest-fires, just like those in Maui, were 'helped' by DEW (direct energy weaponry).

> https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/a-forensics-examination-of-video

 

Kyle Young just posted a follow-up providing more evidence that the California Palisades 'wildfire' disaster was a deliberate DEW attack and NOT the 'wildfire' fable that we are being sold.  He watched a 1.5 hour video made by someone that toured the devastated Palisades area.  From that video Kyle then created some 30 'inexplicable' screenshots, e.g. trees not being burned with cars parked under it completely melted.  Only Directed Energy Weapons (DEW’s) can create such results.

Here the link > https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/detailed-forensic-evidence-supporting

So much misinformation in this thread. A graph which was first made in the 1960's is used to say it was warmer in the past (we didn't have all the ice core data then, we now know it is probably warmer than at anytime in the last 800,000 years). Also CO2 levels are now the highest in those 800,000 years.

 

Volcanic eruptions? - 

• Humanity's annual carbon emissions through the burning of fossil fuels and forests, etc., are 40 to 100 times greater than all volcanic emissions.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/736161

 

Did MMCC cause the California fires? NO. But it resulted in more undergrowth from recent wet winters, and drier conditions from hotter summers, meaning that these conditions increased the risk of a devastating fire. 

 

The last 5 years have seen a big increase in forest fires globally, even in Siberia.

 

MMCC (man made Climate change) is not just about temperature, but the cascade of effects it causes,

 

The problem is that many people focus on just one point but do not see the big picture.

 

My scientific background includes Biology, Geology, Chemistry, Food science, agriculture, environmental monitoring and more, My interest in climate and man's effects on the climate was first aroused when i wrote a paper about Quaternary extinctions of large mammals - just a small change can cause an imbalance that leads to major changes.

I suppose that the headline is badly worded.

The truth is the climate change has FACILITATED the fires

On 1/19/2025 at 3:45 AM, KhunLA said:

Humans are too insignificant to matter to climate change.  

You are out of touch and Dunning Kruger isn't helping -  Imagine a perfect fulcrum in perfect balance - on either end is an identical mass of 1000 tons of rice - because the balance they both hang there - then move one grain of rice from one side to the other - How much is the difference in weight ? = x2 grains of rice and the balance is immediately changes and one side drops down.

Climate deniers you are displaying the Dunning Kruger Effect

 

 

In a nutshell, climate deniers ignore overwhelming scientific evidence that human activities, particularly the burning of fossil fuels, are driving climate change. They often rely on misinformation, cherry-picked data, or flawed logic to downplay the severity of the crisis or deny its existence entirely. This hinders meaningful action, perpetuates environmental harm, and delays necessary responses to mitigate the impacts of global warming

 

 

"Climate Change" is causing the LA fires...or is it?

> and here the answer in a nutshell

 

9 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

"Climate Change" is causing the LA fires...or is it?

> and here the answer in a nutshell

 

"nut" being the operative word in this case

what's the prevention then?