TIN number and how do I apply for one.

[GinBoy2]

8 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Ahhh, a TiT TIN. 😋

Off on a tangent, are you a child of farm workers?

 

Of course i understand what your name means, but my parents where pretty active in the UFW in the 70's so it resonates with me

[oldcpu]

39 minutes ago, khunPer said:

The new thing is that from 1st January 2024 – not 2025, as you mention – any foreign income is income taxable in Thailand, no matter when it's earned.

 

That is not precisely my understanding.  Although perhaps I read you words that i quoted wrong .

 

My understand, per paw-161/162, that any foreign savings/income from BEFORE 1-Jan-2024 remitted to Thailand anytime in the future,  is not subject to Thailand tax. 

 

However any income earned AFTER 31-Dec-2023 remitted to Thailand any time in the future may be subject to Thailand tax (dependent on specific content of DTAs and perhaps LTR visa category). 

 

Maybe that's what you were typing and I my interpretation found the wording ambiguous.

 

[khunPer]

23 hours ago, oldcpu said:

 

That is not precisely my understanding.  Although perhaps I read you words that i quoted wrong .

 

My understand, per paw-161/162, that any foreign savings/income from BEFORE 1-Jan-2024 remitted to Thailand anytime in the future,  is not subject to Thailand tax. 

 

However any income earned AFTER 31-Dec-2023 remitted to Thailand any time in the future may be subject to Thailand tax (dependent on specific content of DTAs and perhaps LTR visa category). 

 

Maybe that's what you were typing and I my interpretation found the wording ambiguous.

 

That is exactly what I'm saying, income from 1st January 2024  – no matter when it's earned, so no longer savings the following calendar year –  income before that date are savings.

[Andycoops]

On 1/17/2025 at 5:47 AM, Mutt Daeng said:

To use the Pink ID card number as a TIN, you would still need to register/activate that number at at the Tax office. My local Tax office did not use my Pink Card number when I applied for a TIN, even though I presented it and my YTB when I applied and even attached copies of the Pink Card & YTB to the TIN application form. So my Pink ID and TIN are different numbers. Others have reported similar experiences.

 

Same here, 2 different numbers and I also showed them my Pink ID card and Yellow house book.

[Presnock]

On 1/17/2025 at 10:25 AM, stoicccc said:

what about the income brought from abroad? it's convoluted?

agree, if remitting assessable income then IAW the TRD directive #1 "within 60 days of having assessable income one shoulr obtain a tax id number."

[parallelman]

If you do wish to get a TIN print copies of the DTA list from the revenue website, assuming that your home country is on the DTA. Ask the info desk to let you speak to a tax familiar with DTA etc. then ask for anassessment. Behave politly and I am sure they will do also.

[oldcpu]

2 hours ago, Andycoops said:

Same here, 2 different numbers and I also showed them my Pink ID card and Yellow house book.

How did you go about the TIN application?

 

Did you show up, say please I wish a Thai TIN , and hand them all your documents ( including pink ID buried withtheremainder of your documents) ?

 

or 

 

Did you show up, pass them you pink ID, and say please activate this pink ID # as a tax ID and pass over remaining documents when provided?

 

It doesn't matter which .... 

 

But I suspect in the first approach,  the pink ID may have been ignored by RD official until too late, and then rather than restart all the paperwork on their side to then use Pink ID ( and lose face with RD colleagues for doing work twice) they simply issued you a new tax ID, and ignored pink ID. .. or possibly they didn't know the process to activate a pink ID as a tax ID and rather than ask for help from colleagues ( and lose face for not knowing) they issued a new tax ID.

 

Of course that is speculation by myself. 

[Drumbuie]

To apply for a TIN you need to go to the Area Revenue Department for where you live ( which may not be the nearest one). Take passport, lease/house book/ whatever shows where you live, a copy of your landlord's ID and photocopies of all of the above. 

You can download the form beforehand and use Google Translate to fill it in. 

Tax allowances are much more generous to oldies  than in, say, UK. 

 

Also ..guys, the Immigration has your passport number. Your bank account is linked to your passport number. There is no data protection in Thailand. Get a TIN and fill in a tax return. 

[Delight]

 I acquired my TIN and paid my taxation in a short period of time

,

Stage 1 went to immigration and obtained a TM30. A document confirming your address is essential-that plus regular photo copies 

of passport.

Stage 2 . Visited the Chonburi TRD  (Thailand Revenue Department ) . This is located in Jomtien  TIN acquired .

Stage 3 Paid my tax liability. at the same location.

Easy

[oldcpu]

7 minutes ago, Delight said:

 I acquired my TIN and paid my taxation in a short period of time

,

Stage 1 went to immigration and obtained a TM30. A document confirming your address is essential-that plus regular photo copies 

of passport.

Stage 2 . Visited the Chonburi TRD  (Thailand Revenue Department ) . This is located in Jomtien  TIN acquired .

Stage 3 Paid my tax liability. at the same location.

Easy

 

Great.  Out of curiousity, what does the DTA (with Thailand) of the country of your income source say about your income taxability in regards to Thailand? 

 

And were you remitting current (2024) year income or income from before 2024?  Was your income from a pension? or other source?  If a pension, was it a civil servant pension or a non-civil servant pension from the government or a company?

 

Everyone's case is different, and its difficult to extrapolate conclusions without better understanding the details.

 

Thanks for sharing.

[fulhamster]

On 1/16/2025 at 8:40 AM, novacova said:

Why do you want a TIN? Unless you are working here and generating income here you don’t need a TIN. 
PS…don’t pay any attention to the convoluted hysterics on the forum concerning taxation.

Absolutely.

Best advice regarding this

[Jaggg88]

On 1/17/2025 at 10:25 AM, stoicccc said:

what about the income brought from abroad? it's convoluted?

If the money is already taxed in a country with a double taxation agreement then there is no liability so there is no need for a TIN or tax return. 

Extract from the Thailand Dept of Revenue website:

C.   Elimination of double taxation

The focus of a DTA is the elimination of double taxation. Each DTA may prescribe different methods of elimination of double taxation of a person by the resident country:

(1)   Exemption method

The country of residence does not tax the income which according to the DTA is taxed in the source country.

However, if you are a tax resident and bring untaxed money onshore, earn money in Thailand, or have investments in Thailand, you are obliged to obtain a TIN and file a tax return. Any tax you have paid under a DTA can be used as a credit towards your liability here in Thailand.

[Letseng]

On 1/17/2025 at 8:25 AM, thesetat said:

one quick note to everyone. If you ever worked legally in Thailand and had a tax number issued. That number is valid forever in every part of Thailand. I had not seen or used mine from teaching 13 years ago. But it was in their computers in a different province and they let me know the number again just using my name. 

As for as the tax laws go. Everyone needs to figure out their own situation. DTA and other tax related questions are too generalized to be of use other than the need to file if you are in Thailand more than 6 months a year. 

Don't let these stories written by tax lawyers scare you to pay for one yourself. They are using your vulnerability to collect money from you and may not be accurate in their versions of OPs here. 

It is not difficult to get the TIN #. Just bring the documents they ask for to show you are here. Passport and resident letter should be enough i think.. I am not 100% certain if more is required. But i do not think there is a fee to get a TIN #. 

There was no fee in Bangkok Pathumwan Office. All I brought was my pport & condo lease.