Labour Faces 'conspiracy of silence' on Grooming Gangs Inquiry

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Labour has been accused of a "conspiracy of silence" after several MPs representing areas affected by grooming gangs declined to state their position on a national inquiry into the issue. The accusations emerged as only a handful of MPs responded to inquiries from the *Daily Mail*.

 

Out of more than 20 Labour MPs contacted from constituencies with histories of child rape and sexual abuse, only three replied. This led to criticism of a "dereliction of duty" for those who remained silent. Among the respondents, Luke Myer and Shaun Davies, representing Middlesbrough South and Telford, respectively, voiced their support for a national inquiry. Their statements added to the growing number of Labour MPs—now five—who have openly backed the call for a comprehensive investigation.

 

The push for a national inquiry gained momentum after MPs Sarah Champion from Rotherham and Paul Waugh from Rochdale reversed their initial stance against it. Their change of heart was seen as a significant shift in the party’s approach to handling the sensitive issue.

 

Further support came from other Labour figures, including Dan Carden, MP for Liverpool Walton, and Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham, who have also expressed the need for a broader probe into grooming gangs.

 

However, not all Labour representatives share this view. Chi Onwurah, MP for Newcastle upon Tyne Central and West, reiterated her previous position, suggesting that a national inquiry might not be necessary. She referred to a statement she made last week, emphasizing a more localized approach.

 

Amidst the political debate, the Government initiated small-scale local investigations into the grooming gang problem. Home Secretary Yvette Cooper announced that five reviews would be conducted in towns severely impacted by these crimes. Yet, the scope of these investigations has drawn criticism for being insufficient, as they lack the authority to summon witnesses, leading to concerns about their effectiveness.

 

The controversy over Labour’s response to grooming gangs and the broader call for a national inquiry highlights the tension between addressing local issues and ensuring comprehensive national oversight. As the discussion continues, the Labour Party faces mounting pressure to clarify its stance and demonstrate a commitment to tackling this critical issue head-on.

 

Based on a report by Daily Mail 2025-01-20

 

 

[Watawattana]

I'm no expert in al of this, but I don't understand what benefit a new inquiry will bring compared to the inquiry held by the previous government where the recommendations have not been implemented?

[The Cyclist]

30 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

I'm no expert in al of this, but I don't understand what benefit a new inquiry will bring compared to the inquiry held by the previous government where the recommendations have not been implemented?

 

The recommendations from the previous inquiry should be implemented tout suite.

 

A second Royal Commission / Statutory Inquiry should also be set up tout suite, to identify, every single person, dead or alive, that turned a blind eye, was involved in a cover up, or in a position of authority and sat back and did nothing, with the remit of bringing them to Justice.

 

Labour will go to any length to try and block such a Commission / Inquiry, because to many Labourites from local authorities, right up to members of the current Government are neck deep in it. Including  Keir ( Nothing came across my desk ) Starmer.

[Watawattana]

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

A second Royal Commission / Statutory Inquiry should also be set up tout suite, to identify, every single person, dead or alive, that turned a blind eye, was involved in a cover up, or in a position of authority and sat back and did nothing, with the remit of bringing them to Justice.

I've no problem with what you suggest.  I doubt the police has the capacity for this, but a lot of this is criminal behaviour that the police and wider criminal justice system should be dealing with.  They won't of course (or rather can't), so outing them in an inquiry sounds good.

[The Cyclist]

6 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

I've no problem with what you suggest.  I doubt the police has the capacity for this,

 

Not a Police matter. Think Horizon Inquiry. 

 

Judge led, barristers and KC's, compelled to attend, Jail time for the guilty.

 

Swore in under Oath, with a quick warning that silence will be construed as guilt.

 

Get them wriggling and panicking right from the off. It would take them long to start singing their black hearts out and pointing fingers.

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, Watawattana said:

I'm no expert in al of this, but I don't understand what benefit a new inquiry will bring compared to the inquiry held by the previous government where the recommendations have not been implemented?

All previous inquiries, local and national have failed to tackle the central problem. They may ( in some cases) have recognised the acts of the perpetrators (although usually not considered all the circumstances) but have failed to recognise or give due emphasis to both the scale and the ethnicity of the perpetrators. These are absolutely central facts to the whole business. They, together with the appalling and often will full failings of those whose duty it was to investigate have been covered up.

 

Further local inquiries will be vulnerable to similar failings - so entrenched is the "cover up ethos" in the local political, social and yes, police, establishments that they will not be trusted.

 

A specific, focussed and independent National Inquiry will certainly go over much ground again, but such is the public interest, press interest and popular outrage at the events of the last two decades, a cover up on a national scale will be  impossible to mount, nor will any recommendations it may make be ignored.

 

It will cost money, it will be politically embarrassing and damaging, it may ( should) lead to prosecutions and end careers; but money, embarrassment and political damage fade into insignificance compared to the damage done to the victims, their families and our society. They deserve justice, we demand that they receive justice, and they must get it.

[Watawattana]

15 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Not a Police matter. Think Horizon Inquiry. 

 

Judge led, barristers and KC's, compelled to attend, Jail time for the guilty.

 

Swore in under Oath, with a quick warning that silence will be construed as guilt.

 

Get them wriggling and panicking right from the off. It would take them long to start singing their black hearts out and pointing fingers.

Thanks.  In that case I'm 100% behind this.

[The Cyclist]

25 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

Thanks.  In that case I'm 100% behind this.

 

I'll just echo what @herfiehandbag said.

 

27 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

It will cost money, it will be politically embarrassing and damaging, it may ( should) lead to prosecutions and end careers; but money, embarrassment and political damage fade into insignificance compared to the damage done to the victims, their families and our society. They deserve justice, we demand that they receive justice, and they must get it.

 

political embarrassment, damage to individuals is exactly ( IMHO ) is what theses creatures masquerading as Politicians, people in authority and other spineless wretches deserve, and ultimately justice for the victims.

 

Money should be no barrier to ensuring this happens.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 hours ago, Watawattana said:

I'm no expert in al of this, but I don't understand what benefit a new inquiry will bring compared to the inquiry held by the previous government where the recommendations have not been implemented?

 

The problem is that the previous enquiry, the IICSA (Jay Inquiry) only focused on 6 case study areas; Tower Hamlets, Bristol, Durham, Warwickshire, St Helens, and Swansea.

 

The inquiry ignored Oxford, Rotherham, Telford, Rochdale, Oldham, Huddersfield, Newcastle, Bradford, Dewsbury, Keighley, Peterborough, and all the other areas of the 50 that have been identified as having Pakistani rape gangs operating.

 

There is no reason, either legally, or otherwise, that the recommendations of the Jay Inquiry cannot be implemented, whilst a full independent inquiry is held investigating specifically the Pakistani rape gangs throughout the UK, which is the real issue here.

 

Local inquiries do not cut the mustard, because they do not have the power to compel people to give evidence, so anyone that knows they will be exposed or shown in bad light, can just refuse to cooperate, or give evidence under oath.

 

 

 

 

[BusyB]

14 hours ago, Watawattana said:

I'm no expert in al of this, but I don't understand what benefit a new inquiry will bring compared to the inquiry held by the previous government where the recommendations have not been implemented?

 

Agree. And it will also mean that the measures/improvements/recommendations of the previous inquiries will be further delayed till after the new 'inquiry'.

 

It's just about 'whipping up a froth' as the Germans say.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

4 hours ago, BusyB said:

Agree. And it will also mean that the measures/improvements/recommendations of the previous inquiries will be further delayed till after the new 'inquiry'.

 

This is completely untrue and is consequently false information; there is no reason, legal, or otherwise, that the recommendations of the IICSA (Jay) Inquiry cannot be implemented, whilst a full independent inquiry is held investigating specifically the Pakistani rape gangs operating throughout the UK, which is the real issue here.

 

If you knew anything about the UK you would know that there is a burgeoning groundswell of public opinion demanding a full independent inquiry into the devastation caused by scores of Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, and into those responsible for both enabling this to happen, and for covering it up.

 

 

 

 

[The Cyclist]

19 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

If you knew anything about the UK you would know that there is a burgeoning groundswell of public opinion demanding a full independent inquiry into the devastation caused by scores of Pakistani Muslim rape gangs, and into those responsible for both enabling this to happen, and for covering it up.

 

And bang

 

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Keir Starmer has ordered a public inquiry into the failings that allowed an “extremely violent” teenager to murder three young girls in one of the worst attacks on children in recent UK history.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/20/yvette-cooper-announces-public-inquiry-into-southport-attack

 

That makes 2 Public Inquiries in the last 2 weeks. The one above and one into the Marsden Detention Centre.

 

I do not need to shake my head in disbelief as to why no Joined up Royal Commission / Public Inquiry  into the Rape Gangs will take place.

 

Starmers, neck would be on the block, along with other current Labour MP's, Labour Mayors, and a small Army of Labour Councillors.

[Watawattana]

28 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

And bang

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/20/yvette-cooper-announces-public-inquiry-into-southport-attack

 

That makes 2 Public Inquiries in the last 2 weeks. The one above and one into the Marsden Detention Centre.

 

I do not need to shake my head in disbelief as to why no Joined up Royal Commission / Public Inquiry  into the Rape Gangs will take place.

 

Starmers, neck would be on the block, along with other current Labour MP's, Labour Mayors, and a small Army of Labour Councillors.

Couldn't the Conservatives have done this too?  They were in power for quite a long time.  

 

And the Liberals?  Were they not quiet on this topic in the last few years?

 

I got no problem blaming Labour, but it ain't just them.

[JonnyF]

Covering their own backs, especially Starmer's.

[The Cyclist]

6 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

Couldn't the Conservatives have done this too?  They were in power for quite a long time.

 

Yes they could have, but I think you have to look at the timeline in its entirety.

 

The Tories commissioned a report which was published in 2022. They set up a dedicated task force which has arrested another 550 suspects.

 

The whole thing is a National scandal, embarrassment, and a good indicator of the levels of clowns, incompetents , spineless wretches, and all round bellthronks that walk the various corridors of Power, from the local level right up to the National Level.

 

It is hardly surprising that they all wanted it swept under the carpet and kept quiet.

 

Then Musk let loose with a few salvoes on X / Twitter as more another case hit the headlines.

 

And here we are today, 2 Public Inquiries announced in the last 2 weeks, and still nothing into the Rape Gangs.

 

I suspect before too long Musk will be firing broadsides again.

 

The genie is out the bottle, and is not going back in, everyday that the current Government refuses a Royal Commission / National Inquiry, tells its own story. Self preservation / protection beats justice for the victims, hands down.

[Bkk Brian]

Just one of the thousands of survivors. Its still going on today!!

 

When I came forward about my abuse, I remember being asked by a detective from the CSE team whether I had “consented” to sexual activity at any point.

I was five when I was first abused.

And like 96.5% of sex abuse cases, CPS refused to take my abusers to court.

Then, I went on national TV with Mark Steyn to discuss child sexual exploitation in my hometown and the fact that little girls are still being raped and exploited on council estates in Telford today.

The police came banging on my door the next day after searching every address I’d ever lived at.

They tried to demand that I go to the police station for an “interview” and tried to intimidate me into silence because:

“When you go on national TV to discuss grooming gangs, you should expect us to come to you.”

This isn’t a thing of the past.
This is the present.

 

[herfiehandbag]

23 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

Couldn't the Conservatives have done this too?  They were in power for quite a long time.  

 

And the Liberals?  Were they not quiet on this topic in the last few years?

 

I got no problem blaming Labour, but it ain't just them.

Yes. The guilt crosses all political boundaries. The inquiry we dare to envisage should ignore those boundaries.

 

Labour are in power now, and of course, cliche but true, with power comes responsibility. They have the responsibility to initiate the actions.

[Bday Prang]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

ust one of the thousands of survivors. Its still going on today!!

 

When I came forward about my abuse, I remember being asked by a detective from the CSE team whether I had “consented” to sexual activity at any point.

I was five when I was first abused.

And like 96.5% of sex abuse cases, CPS refused to take my abusers to court.

Then, I went on national TV with Mark Steyn to discuss child sexual exploitation in my hometown and the fact that little girls are still being raped and exploited on council estates in Telford today.

The police came banging on my door the next day after searching every address I’d ever lived at.

They tried to demand that I go to the police station for an “interview” and tried to intimidate me into silence because:

“When you go on national TV to discuss grooming gangs, you should expect us to come to you.”

This isn’t a thing of the past.
This is the present.

 

truly shocking, a national disgrace

[James105]

2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

 

And bang

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/20/yvette-cooper-announces-public-inquiry-into-southport-attack

 

That makes 2 Public Inquiries in the last 2 weeks. The one above and one into the Marsden Detention Centre.

 

I do not need to shake my head in disbelief as to why no Joined up Royal Commission / Public Inquiry  into the Rape Gangs will take place.

 

Starmers, neck would be on the block, along with other current Labour MP's, Labour Mayors, and a small Army of Labour Councillors.

 

Note that the Southport terrorist pleaded guilty yesterday at the last minute which prevents the truth coming out in a trial.  We do know now that this terrorist was referred to Prevent on 3 occasions and the Police and Starmer had the gall to claim it was not a terrorist attack, blaming the "far right" instead for labelling it as such.   Of course this story doesn't get much in the way of attention as it coincidentally coincided with the inauguration.   In other conveniently buried news on inauguration day Labour councillor Ricky Jones has had his trial deferred until August.   

 

The sniveling worm is making a statement on Southport tomorrow morning so get your bingo card ready and look out for "far right", "cannot say anything that would prejudice the public enquiry", "it didn't come across my desk" as well as the classics such as "black hole" and "difficult decisions".  

[The Cyclist]

16 minutes ago, James105 said:

Note that the Southport terrorist pleaded guilty yesterday at the last minute which prevents the truth coming out in a trial.  We do know now that this terrorist was referred to Prevent on 3 occasions and the Police and Starmer had the gall to claim it was not a terrorist attack, blaming the "far right" instead for labelling it as such.

 

Watch PMQ's tomorrow. I believe that the gloves may come off, after the Speaker previously silencing it in the HoC.

 

Starmer, I believe has lied to Parliament over this.

 

Get the beer and popcorn at the ready.

 

17 minutes ago, James105 said:

 Of course this story doesn't get much in the way of attention as it coincidentally coincided with the inauguration. 

 

It's all over the Media, and it is not going away. 

 

19 minutes ago, James105 said:

The sniveling worm is making a statement on Southport tomorrow morning so get your bingo card ready and look out for "far right", "cannot say anything that would prejudice the public enquiry", "it didn't come across my desk" as well as the classics such as "black hole" and "difficult decisions".  

 

Thats a given.