Russian Father Throws Son from Speedboat Near Surin Islands, Leading to Fatality

[GammaGlobulin]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I was talking about ALL the letters in being Caps , not just certain words 

 

Of course, I know what you were saying.

And, I agree.

 

[NativeBob]

25 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Has anyone reported the AGE of the son?

Seem that this point is CRUCIAL to understanding of this tragedy.

 

If the son were under the age of 12, and a non-swimmer, then this would have been a dastardly deed.

 

However, if the son were a swimmer, and this kind of thing, as a matter of just fooling around, happened regularly, then...

 

This father already is completely devastated by this tragedy.

 

No need to punish the father further.

 

 

It is very simple: 

if the kid drowned than it is father's fault and sin to bear

else the kid was [god forbid!] minced - than [guess] who's to blame?

 

Lets think technically: 33 tourists + crew yield about 400+ kg

the boat itself at least 200kg

Engine and canisters of diesel fuel [my guess] are another 100kg

So that comes to 700kg min.

So you can imagine the power of the engine itself to push this "speed boat?"
 

IT IS A PERFECT MINCER" (CAPS & bold)

 

PS: but if it was real "speed boat" than things look even more gore(-ish). 

[Nick Carter icp]

21 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Has anyone reported the AGE of the son?

Seem that this point is CRUCIAL to understanding of this tragedy.

 

If the son were under the age of 12, and a non-swimmer, then this would have been a dastardly deed.

 

However, if the son were a swimmer, and this kind of thing, as a matter of just fooling around, happened regularly, then...

 

This father already is completely devastated by this tragedy.

 

No need to punish the father further.

 

 

 

   The Father should be on suicide watch as well 

[webfact]

UPDATE:

 

Russian Charged with Murder for Throwing Son from Speedboat

 

Picture courtesy: AMARIN TV

 

In a shocking case off Thailand's coast, a Russian man, Artem Bugorskiy, faces murder charges after allegedly throwing his 13-year-old son, Lukas, from a speedboat, leading to the boy's tragic death.

 

This occurred during their return from the idyllic Surin Islands in Phang Nga province, just four kilometres from Koh Ra-Koh Phra Thong.

 

As the speedboat approached the shore, Lukas was thrown overboard, fatally striking the boat's propeller.

 

Overcome by distress, Mr. Bugorskiy jumped into the sea immediately following the act but was rescued by the crew, who also retrieved the boy's lifeless body.

 

On reaching the mainland at Phang Ng Khura Buri, Mr. Bugorskiy was found unconscious and injured and was swiftly taken to Khura Buri Chaiphat Hospital.

 

Authorities, led by Pol. Lt. Col. Somkid Onchan, subsequently charged him with murder. Nonetheless, the suspect was reportedly incoherent during questioning, unable to recall the incident clearly.

 

Eyewitnesses reported an argument between father and son before the tragedy, with Lukas allegedly pleading to return to his Thai mother following his parents' separation. The pair had been staying at Surin Islands National Park since November amid the familial tensions.

 

This tragic event underscores the devastating effects of unresolved family conflicts. As Mr. Bugorskiy faces these severe charges, the investigation will continue exploring family background and relevant circumstances.

 

This incident leaves a community in mourning and highlights the urgent need for addressing family issues before they escalate to such tragic extremes, reported Thai Newsroom.

 

-- 2025-01-25

 

 

[watchcat]

17 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Was he playing around by throwing the boy over the side near the islands shore line only 200 meters away or was it an intentional act of violence ? 

 

My guess it was the former but an age of the kid would be helful.

[Tropicalevo]

19 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

My guess it was the former but an age of the kid would be helful.

According to the BP the kid was 13 years old.

[Georgealbert]

25 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

My guess it was the former but an age of the kid would be helful.

Maybe read the update above your post

[Captain Flack]

A number of troll posts have been removed.

 

@watchcat the update is the post before yours.

 

 

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

My guess it was the former but an age of the kid would be helful.

My observation was that the father threw his son over the bow [front] of the boat as it was nearing [moving] towards the shore-line. I think the son was taken under the boat and was injured as the stern of the boat with propellers going over him, thus the injuries...

I think the father made a terrible mis-judgement in his actions, one which he will remember for the rest of his life.

[crazykopite]

Reading the report it says they had been arguing before he threw him

off the boat throwing anyone off a moving vessel is an act of madness RIP to the deceased his mother must be distraught with what happened to him 

[Jingthing]

With the new evidence about arguing and custody conflict I don't see how the justice system can view this as a simple case of idiotic horseplay. That does not wash. 

[SiSePuede419]

Russian Father Throws Son from Speedboat

 

Russian haircut is different. 😳

[Tatman95]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

UPDATE:

 

Russian Charged with Murder for Throwing Son from Speedboat

 

Picture courtesy: AMARIN TV

 

In a shocking case off Thailand's coast, a Russian man, Artem Bugorskiy, faces murder charges after allegedly throwing his 13-year-old son, Lukas, from a speedboat, leading to the boy's tragic death.

 

This occurred during their return from the idyllic Surin Islands in Phang Nga province, just four kilometres from Koh Ra-Koh Phra Thong.

 

As the speedboat approached the shore, Lukas was thrown overboard, fatally striking the boat's propeller.

 

Overcome by distress, Mr. Bugorskiy jumped into the sea immediately following the act but was rescued by the crew, who also retrieved the boy's lifeless body.

 

On reaching the mainland at Phang Ng Khura Buri, Mr. Bugorskiy was found unconscious and injured and was swiftly taken to Khura Buri Chaiphat Hospital.

 

Authorities, led by Pol. Lt. Col. Somkid Onchan, subsequently charged him with murder. Nonetheless, the suspect was reportedly incoherent during questioning, unable to recall the incident clearly.

 

Eyewitnesses reported an argument between father and son before the tragedy, with Lukas allegedly pleading to return to his Thai mother following his parents' separation. The pair had been staying at Surin Islands National Park since November amid the familial tensions.

 

This tragic event underscores the devastating effects of unresolved family conflicts. As Mr. Bugorskiy faces these severe charges, the investigation will continue exploring family background and relevant circumstances.

9 hours ago, webfact said:

UPDATE:

 

Russian Charged with Murder for Throwing Son from Speedboat

 

Picture courtesy: AMARIN TV

 

In a shocking case off Thailand's coast, a Russian man, Artem Bugorskiy, faces murder charges after allegedly throwing his 13-year-old son, Lukas, from a speedboat, leading to the boy's tragic death.

 

This occurred during their return from the idyllic Surin Islands in Phang Nga province, just four kilometres from Koh Ra-Koh Phra Thong.

 

As the speedboat approached the shore, Lukas was thrown overboard, fatally striking the boat's propeller.

 

Overcome by distress, Mr. Bugorskiy jumped into the sea immediately following the act but was rescued by the crew, who also retrieved the boy's lifeless body.

 

On reaching the mainland at Phang Ng Khura Buri, Mr. Bugorskiy was found unconscious and injured and was swiftly taken to Khura Buri Chaiphat Hospital.

 

Authorities, led by Pol. Lt. Col. Somkid Onchan, subsequently charged him with murder. Nonetheless, the suspect was reportedly incoherent during questioning, unable to recall the incident clearly.

 

Eyewitnesses reported an argument between father and son before the tragedy, with Lukas allegedly pleading to return to his Thai mother following his parents' separation. The pair had been staying at Surin Islands National Park since November amid the familial tensions.

 

This tragic event underscores the devastating effects of unresolved family conflicts. As Mr. Bugorskiy faces these severe charges, the investigation will continue exploring family background and relevant circumstances.

 

This incident leaves a community in mourning and highlights the urgent need for addressing family issues before they escalate to such tragic extremes, reported Thai Newsroom.

 

-- 2025-01-25

 

 

 

 

i hope he rots in hell

[Nick Carter icp]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Eyewitnesses reported an argument between father and son before the tragedy, with Lukas allegedly pleading to return to his Thai mother following his parents' separation.

 

   A lesson for us all NOT to lash out or lose out temper and do spontaneous irrational things 

[spidermike007]

One wonders if this guy was having a psychotic episode or if he was just sick and tired of his son mouthing off. Regardless sounds like he has a significant amount of time to ponder his recklessness and bizarre behavior and perhaps his fellow inmates can help him figure things out. At the very minimum they will offer him some very close and warm company. 

 

I bet his son never saw that one coming. 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

One wonders if this guy was having a psychotic episode or if he was just sick and tired of his son mouthing off. Regardless sounds like he has a significant amount of time to ponder his recklessness and bizarre behavior and perhaps his fellow inmates can help him figure things out. At the very minimum they will offer him some very close and warm company. 

 

I bet his son never saw that one coming. 

If this was the west he might have a good temporary insanity defense but it's not the west.

[Peterphuket]

6 hours ago, hotchilli said:

My observation was that the father threw his son over the bow [front] of the boat as it was nearing [moving] towards the shore-line. I think the son was taken under the boat and was injured as the stern of the boat with propellers going over him, thus the injuries...

I think the father made a terrible mis-judgement in his actions, one which he will remember for the rest of his life.

Mistake? Surely you don't throw your son overboard for fun.
I won't be surprised if there is more behind it.

[richard_smith237]

On 1/25/2025 at 1:56 PM, Jingthing said:

With the new evidence about arguing and custody conflict I don't see how the justice system can view this as a simple case of idiotic horseplay. That does not wash. 

Agreed…. This does tend to open up the void of speculation somewhat towards more nefarious intentions… 

[MalcolmB]

On 1/24/2025 at 7:01 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Maybe you don't understand human nature... 

 

If I'd been messing around and threw my son in the sea, then follow him in only to realise the tragic and fatal mistake I'd just made... I'm not sure I'd want to get back in a boat again, I'd rather die by any means possible rather than live with the never disappearing memory that I'd accidentally killed my son... 

 

Perhaps you are more thick skinned malcy... after all, you drink drive and already have a terribly low regard for the human life around you.

 

 

 

Always making apologies for non Thais.

At least you are consistent.

i have no tolerance for child abuse.

 

RIP 

Lucas

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Always making apologies for non Thais.

At least you are consistent.

i have no tolerance for child abuse.

 

RIP 

Lucas

 

You see Malcy.... IF someone doesn't  view the actions of a non-Thai with 100% condensation you accuse them of siding with the non-Thai - which of course is stupid (no surprise there from you).

Such is your bias you are simply lack any intelligent ability to see things any differently...  Your bigoted bias against foreigners here blinds you to any thought that does not condemn all foreigners and side 100% with Thai's - your binary thought process is a clear indication of a fundamentally broken intellect. 

 

 

... now..  In the very comment above your post, you'll read a balanced thought that opens up to the potential of other possibilities...   You see Malcy... you're incapable of open minded discussion because you are so locked into your 'farangs are all bad' agenda...    its one of the least intelligent outlooks I repeatedly read on this forum.

 

 

 

And here it is for you Malcy (below) - the discussion that there 'could' be nefarious circumstances at play - while this could have been a father and son messing around, there is also new information which suggests and argument and that opens up other more horrific possibilities which need to be investigated....    

 

21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

On 1/25/2025 at 1:56 PM, Jingthing said:

With the new evidence about arguing and custody conflict I don't see how the justice system can view this as a simple case of idiotic horseplay. That does not wash. 

Agreed…. This does tend to open up the void of speculation somewhat towards more nefarious intentions… 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

On 1/25/2025 at 5:07 PM, Peterphuket said:

Mistake? Surely you don't throw your son overboard for fun.
I won't be surprised if there is more behind it.

 

Have you never thrown your kid in a Swimming pool ???...  In the water off the side of a boat ? - that in itself is not an indication of anything nasty...  it could just be a father messing around with his sone... 

 

I've done simimilar with my nephews, son, sons friends etc...   but not while the boat was moving.

 

 

The difference here was that the boat was moving - its not clear how fast it was moving....   Were there nasty, nefarious intentions ??   As jing pointed out, it was a reported that there was an argument.... 

 

BUT...    does throwing someone out of a boat imply mudurous intentions ?

Did he (the father) throw the son out of the boat in anger ?... or were they just messing around ?

 

Did the father 'know' the son would get caught in the prop and it was planned murder ?? - I dont think so.... 

 

At the worst, this could be an argument and he 'bins the cheeky son overboard' with tragic consequnces... I can't see  how the father could have planned or predicted that the props would 'chop him up' as some seem to be suggesting.

 

But, if the boat was moving at speed, this does imply a very harsh act and one which lead directly to the sons death.

 

 

[Peterphuket]

23 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Have you never thrown your kid in a Swimming pool ???...  In the water off the side of a boat ? - that in itself is not an indication of anything nasty...  it could just be a father messing around with his sone... 

 

I've done simimilar with my nephews, son, sons friends etc...   but not while the boat was moving.

 

 

The difference here was that the boat was moving - its not clear how fast it was moving....   Were there nasty, nefarious intentions ??   As jing pointed out, it was a reported that there was an argument.... 

 

BUT...    does throwing someone out of a boat imply mudurous intentions ?

Did he (the father) throw the son out of the boat in anger ?... or were they just messing around ?

 

Did the father 'know' the son would get caught in the prop and it was planned murder ?? - I dont think so.... 

 

At the worst, this could be an argument and he 'bins the cheeky son overboard' with tragic consequnces... I can't see  how the father could have planned or predicted that the props would 'chop him up' as some seem to be suggesting.

 

But, if the boat was moving at speed, this does imply a very harsh act and one which lead directly to the sons death.

 

 

I am sorry but as you point out, a pool or from a sailing boat is a big difference.
And I call it ‘brainless’ to do that act so impulsively, no leniency from me for the Russian.

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:

I am sorry but as you point out, a pool or from a sailing boat is a big difference.
And I call it ‘brainless’ to do that act so impulsively, no leniency from me for the Russian.

 

Easy to say with 20/20 hindsight... 

 

Walking past a pool at a resort a few years back....  at night, coming back from dinner, my son and his mate were next to the pool -  they earned a helping hand and ended up in the water !!!...  We all ended up in the water full dressed !!!... quite a laugh.

 

BUT - throwing a lad overboard from a fast moving speed boat is a very different action, especially if carried out aggressively. 

 

 

 

We do not know if this action was: 

a) while the boat was moving at speed

b) while the the boat was stationary

c) carried out in anger

d) Just messing around

e) carried out with evil intentions

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

I wonder what the mother thinks about his intentions throwing her son off the boat.

It doesn't sound like a premediated act though in the world of custody battles it's not unheard of for the denied parent to kill the contested child as in if I'm not going to get custody, nobody is.

[MalcolmB]

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Your bigoted bias against foreigners

What are you on about? 
Just because I don’t make up ridiculous scenarios to make excuses for every idiot farang I am somehow a bigot.

 

Other members have written to me about you so I know it is you not me.

 

Anyway despite your make believe the police have charged the Russian with murder.

Custody battle over the kid who had told the dad he wanted to go back to his mother, just a joke? Nah, you are dreaming.