Migrants in UK: The Challenge of Integration

[Bkk Brian]

There is so much evidence that integration is a huge problem including the Gov's own Casey report. I find it quite unbelievable there are those who defend it.

 

This mosque in Birmingham Green Lanes Mosque had its funding frozen from UK tax payers money because of the hate speech it spewed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-66705019

 

Teaching followers how to stone to death women who commit adultery 

 

 

[proton]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

There is so much evidence that integration is a huge problem including the Gov's own Casey report. I find it quite unbelievable there are those who defend it.

 

This mosque in Birmingham Green Lanes Mosque had its funding frozen from UK tax payers money because of the hate speech it spewed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-66705019

 

Teaching followers how to stone to death women who commit adultery 

 

 

 

Islam condones stoning to death, amputations, fgm, wife beating, raping captives and marriage to pre pubescent children, oh nearly forgot, and and death to apostates and blasphemers. 

[Chomper Higgot]

39 minutes ago, proton said:

 

How many mosques did you have in your home town Chomper? I left when the 70th one centre opened in my city. Nothing good comes from Islam, but well done for trying to defend the indefensible.

I’m not sure what the number of mosques in my home town has to do with calling out a bare face lie, which in itself is not defending anything other than adherence to the truth.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Suella Braverman Says The UK Could Become 'The First Islamist Nation With Nuclear Weapons'

“Born out of a broken relationship and weak leadership. What happens if the UK falls into the hands of Muslim fundamentalism, our legal system gets substituted for Sharia Law and our nuclear capabilities vest in a regime not too dissimilar to that of Iran today?

“Regardless of whether one thinks that is a realistic outcome, which I do not, should we not have the courage to ask these questions?”

Elsewhere in her speech, Braverman also claimed Keir Starmer “could not be more at odds” with Donald Trump – even though the US president praised his UK counterpart at the weekend.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/suella-braverman-says-the-uk-could-become-the-first-islamist-nation-with-nuclear-weapons_uk_67990ac6e4b0f8946ae28c4a

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

On 2/1/2025 at 8:41 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

You made an absolutely false claim which you’ve had ample time to either back up or retract.

 

You’ve done neither.

 

Forgive me for drawing the obviously correct conclusion.

 

 

Sorry for a late response but I don’t spend every waking hour on the forum, I have another life; that notwithstanding, this is more delusional denial from you. I have stated quite clearly my own first hand experiences about muslims and Sharia councils in the UK.

 

You don’t want to accept what is happening in the UK, because firstly you have no experience of the UK whatsoever, but more importantly, your far left indoctrination has become so extreme, that you will not tolerate any criticism of either Islam or muslims; continually asking for verifiable data about illegal practices is facile and deflective, as you know that these procedures are all clandestine.

 

The clandestine nature of these procedures is illustrated by the fact that there have been very few prosecutions in the UK despite the NHS statistics reporting  37,615 cases of FMG since 2015, and more than 100,000 other attendances about the procedure.

 

It matters not if you believe that Shari councils in the UK are aware of, or approve of these procedures, thousands of them are happening every year in the UK, against UK law. This, the subjugation of women, the persecution of gays, honour killings, the marriage of prepubescent girls, and not forgetting the rape gangs, are the reasons that muslims do not, and never will, integrate and assimilate into any western culture.

 

I don’t know why, but you now appear to despise western culture and instead, promote, defend, and deflect all criticism of Islam, which is a brutal, medieval, homophobic, misogynistic hate culture.

 

Islam is a cancer on western civilisation, as we have seen with 9/11, Bataclan, Nice, Samuel Paty, Manchester concert, 7/7, Charlie Hebbo, London bridge, Barcelona, Swedish football fans in Brussels, to name but a few of the thousands; and let’s not forget Hamas, Hezbollah, The Houthis, and Iran.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Sorry for a late response but I don’t spend every waking hour on the forum, I have another life; that notwithstanding, this is more delusional denial from you. I have stated quite clearly my own first hand experiences about muslims and Sharia councils in the UK.

 

You don’t want to accept what is happening in the UK, because firstly you have no experience of the UK whatsoever, but more importantly, your far left indoctrination has become so extreme, that you will not tolerate any criticism of either Islam or muslims; continually asking for verifiable data about illegal practices is facile and deflective, as you know that these procedures are all clandestine.

 

The clandestine nature of these procedures is illustrated by the fact that there have been very few prosecutions in the UK despite the NHS statistics reporting  37,615 cases of FMG since 2015, and more than 100,000 other attendances about the procedure.

 

It matters not if you believe that Shari councils in the UK are aware of, or approve of these procedures, thousands of them are happening every year in the UK, against UK law. This, the subjugation of women, the persecution of gays, honour killings, the marriage of prepubescent girls, and not forgetting the rape gangs, are the reasons that muslims do not, and never will, integrate and assimilate into any western culture.

 

I don’t know why, but you now appear to despise western culture and instead, promote, defend, and deflect all criticism of Islam, which is a brutal, medieval, homophobic, misogynistic hate culture.

 

Islam is a cancer on western civilisation, as we have seen with 9/11, Bataclan, Nice, Samuel Paty, Manchester concert, 7/7, Charlie Hebbo, London bridge, Barcelona, Swedish football fans in Brussels, to name but a few of the thousands; and let’s not forget Hamas, Hezbollah, The Houthis, and Iran.

 

 

So yet more personal attacks and baseless assumptions but absolutely no evidence to back up your claim that 

“Sharia courts in the UK promoting and overseeing female genital mutilation of children.”

You now go further:

 

“It matters not if you believe that Shari councils in the UK are aware of, or approve of these procedures, thousands of them are happening every year in the UK, against UK law.”

 

What matters is if you lay accusations of anyone promoting and overseeing heinous crimes against st women and girls it is for you to present the evidence to substantiate your allegations.

 

 

Now you claim “thousands of them [female genital mutikations] are happening every year in the UK”

This is a shocking claim, and might be a shocking fact if you had any evidence to back it up. Of course you do not.

 

I’ll tell you what I despise, liars stoking hatred with vile unsubstantiated lies.

 

Especially those who continue their lies in the face of a simple question, show us your evidence?!

 

You don’t have any evidence to back your lies, you are hate mongering.

 

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So yet more personal attacks and baseless assumptions but absolutely no evidence to back up your claim that 

“Sharia courts in the UK promoting and overseeing female genital mutilation of children.”

You now go further:

 

“It matters not if you believe that Shari councils in the UK are aware of, or approve of these procedures, thousands of them are happening every year in the UK, against UK law.”

 

What matters is if you lay accusations of anyone promoting and overseeing heinous crimes against st women and girls it is for you to present the evidence to substantiate your allegations.

 

 

Now you claim “thousands of them [female genital mutikations] are happening every year in the UK”

This is a shocking claim, and might be a shocking fact if you had any evidence to back it up. Of course you do not.

 

I’ll tell you what I despise, liars stoking hatred with vile unsubstantiated lies.

 

Especially those who continue their lies in the face of a simple question, show us your evidence?!

 

You don’t have any evidence to back your lies, you are hate mongering.

 

Now you claim “thousands of them [female genital mutikations] are happening every year in the UK”

This is a shocking claim, and might be a shocking fact if you had any evidence to back it up. Of course you do not.

 

That's because there is and it is a fact. Shocking right?

 

https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/female-genital-mutilation#latest-statistics

 

UK communities that are most at risk of FGM include Kenyan, Somali, Sudanese, Sierra Leonean, Egyptian, Nigerian and Eritrean. Non-African communities that practise FGM include Yemeni, Afghani, Kurdish, Indonesian and Pakistani.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Now you claim “thousands of them [female genital mutikations] are happening every year in the UK”

This is a shocking claim, and might be a shocking fact if you had any evidence to back it up. Of course you do not.

 

I’ll tell you what I despise, liars stoking hatred with vile unsubstantiated lies.

 

Especially those who continue their lies in the face of a simple question, show us your evidence?!

 

You don’t have any evidence to back your lies, you are hate mongering.

 

 

 

Here is a link to the NHS statistics, and after you have read them you can apologise to me for calling me a liar (but I don't mind if you still despise me) It is not my fault that you are in total denial of any criticism of Islam, but your denial has now reached absurd levels.

 

I am also attaching a screenshot so that you can see the depravity of the statistics, with 19.4% of the total being made up by babies under the age of 1; and you can also see that a staggering 81.5% of the 37,615 (known) procedures have been carried out on children under the age of 10.

 

These are the very statistics that you are in denial of; but hey, you keep denying these horrendous statistics of barbarism if it makes you happy, but take it up with the NHS, they are their figures, not mine.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/female-genital-mutilation&ved=2ahUKEwiN6PPd4quLAxVuT2wGHYupDP4QFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2OG8ppRLdSw5-eH6Qh6L2s

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

 

Here is a link to the NHS statistics, and after you have read them you can apologise to me for calling me a liar (but I don't mind if you still despise me) It is not my fault that you are in total denial of any criticism of Islam, but your denial has now reached absurd levels.

 

I am also attaching a screenshot so that you can see the depravity of the statistics, with 19.4% of the total being made up by babies under the age of 1; and you can also see that a staggering 81.5% of the 37,615 (known) procedures have been carried out on children under the age of 10.

 

These are the very statistics that you are in denial of; but hey, you keep denying these horrendous statistics of barbarism if it makes you happy, but take it up with the NHS, they are their figures, not mine.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/female-genital-mutilation&ved=2ahUKEwiN6PPd4quLAxVuT2wGHYupDP4QFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2OG8ppRLdSw5-eH6Qh6L2s

 

 

Thank you for the link which summarizes details of the NHS providing care, in the UK, to victims of female genital mitigation. Take note of the two diagrams, on the left summarizing the age at which the mutilation took place, on the right the age at which it was first seen by the NHS FGM program.

 

There is zero indication that these mutilations are taking place in the UK.

 

What you have not provided is any evidence of thousands of these  mutilations being performed in the UK  nor have you provided any evidence of Sharia courts/councils in the UK promoting and overseeing these female genital mutilations of children.

 

FGM is a serous and heinous crime, and yet you feel it’s something to flippantly lie about and upon which to post false and inflammatory statements, despite it repeatedly being demonstrated that you are misrepresenting facts.

 

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

 

Here is a link to the NHS statistics, and after you have read them you can apologise to me for calling me a liar (but I don't mind if you still despise me) It is not my fault that you are in total denial of any criticism of Islam, but your denial has now reached absurd levels.

 

I am also attaching a screenshot so that you can see the depravity of the statistics, with 19.4% of the total being made up by babies under the age of 1; and you can also see that a staggering 81.5% of the 37,615 (known) procedures have been carried out on children under the age of 10.

 

These are the very statistics that you are in denial of; but hey, you keep denying these horrendous statistics of barbarism if it makes you happy, but take it up with the NHS, they are their figures, not mine.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/female-genital-mutilation&ved=2ahUKEwiN6PPd4quLAxVuT2wGHYupDP4QFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2OG8ppRLdSw5-eH6Qh6L2s

 

 

Indeed and many families take there children abroad for it too and then those same children end up visiting an NHS hospital using UK resources for their illegal act on their children. 

 

Many families in Britain take girls to their country of origin to have FGM carried out. It is a holiday, they see family and the countryside and are then “circumcised”. When they return, they tell the girl not to talk about it. They say the Government will take her away from her family, and that she will lose all she has in the UK.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c7e9d1440f0b6333380e4ee/FGM_The_Facts_A6_v4_web.pdf

 

The fact that there have been convictions here, not many but obviously the tip of a very serious problem in England. 

[Sir Dude]

What are the deluded talking about, there is no "integration", as what you get is sectarianism (religious or otherwise)... it's a lefty narrative myth that runs against the reality on the ground.

There are good reasons why many countries resist full migration, like Thailand/Japan/many others, without serious controls... and the UK/EU is a great example and cautionary tale of the dangers. So obvious that even Stevie Wonder can see it... but somehow the UK/EU governments can't because the delusion is strong in such places.