Could Trump to Put 100 percent tariffs on Thailand?

[gearbox]

Nobody would pretty much care what Trump says.

 

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/china-versus-america-global-trade

 

"In 2001, some 80 per cent of economies worldwide did more two-way trade with the United States than with China. Just over 20 years later, the newly published Data Snapshot reveals an almost complete reversal of global trade relationships: around 70 per cent of economies worldwide now trade more with China than they do with the United States.

 

China has not only widened its global trade partnerships but also deepened them. More than half of all economies now trade twice as much with China compared to the United States."

 

Chairman Xi calls the shots.

[KhunLA]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The Dems believed that the 2020 election was stolen? I'm guessing you meant 2024.

There are 10's of millions of Democrats in the US. Did this belief ever gain much traction amongst them? Did almost 3/4 of their House members vote against accepting the results of the election? Your comparison  is patently ridiculous. 

Bush - Gore - FL, it even ended up in the courts.  Then he conceded 🙄

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2 minutes ago, theblether said:

Most of you will be unaware that Thailand has been on a sanction watch list by the USA for years, based upon currency manipulation, protectionism and other factors. One reason why they haven't been sanctioned before now is the general US political consensus that they are a useful ally in SE Asia. 

 

If Thailand joins BRICS it's joining an organisation known to be hostile to US interests. That's a decision for Thailand. If they then suffer the consequences for declaring themselves allied with hostile nations. 

 

Far too much ranting here by people who genuinely don't know what they are talking about. 

 

And be honest, did you know Thailand was on a sanction watchlist before you flew foot first into this thread?

The only time before the first Trump administration that Thailand was considered for a sanctions list was on account of its military coup. The Trump adminstration instituted a rule that any country with a trade surplus of more than 2 percent should be investigated for currency manipulation. No skullduggery was every uncovered.

Thailand has been considered for sanctions because of it's violation of human rights. Especially those of Myanmar's refugees. The fishing industry drew special attention for that. I guess you must be distressed that Thailand would allow the mistreatment of illegal immigrants.

[PomPolo]

2 minutes ago, theblether said:

Most of you will be unaware that Thailand has been on a sanction watch list by the USA for years, based upon currency manipulation, protectionism and other factors. One reason why they haven't been sanctioned before now is the general US political consensus that they are a useful ally in SE Asia. 

 

If Thailand joins BRICS it's joining an organisation known to be hostile to US interests. That's a decision for Thailand. If they then suffer the consequences for declaring themselves allied with hostile nations. 

 

Far too much ranting here by people who genuinely don't know what they are talking about. 

 

And be honest, did you know Thailand was on a sanction watchlist before you flew foot first into this thread?

Some accurate facts here for sure, some misinterpretations and some speculation!

I hasn't been on a sanction list it has been on a treasury watch list which is completely different, obviously around currency manipulation type stuff. Thailand is a MNNA to the US, I'll let you guys google that one, but means they do Army type stuff together and would make the US a lot more reluctant to impose anything upon thailand.

If Thailand did join BRICS then would definitely cause a a big Trump (slang for fart) given then they would be directly aligned with Russia and China, and "suffer the consequences" is definitely correct terminology.

Historically Thailand have kept out of larger geopolitical issues like this so  I would be surprised if they did join BRICS (China)

[theblether]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The only time before the first Trump administration that Thailand was considered for a sanctions list was on account of its military coup. The Trump adminstration instituted a rule that any country with a trade surplus of more than 2 percent should be investigated for currency manipulation. No skullduggery was every uncovered.

Thailand has been considered for sanctions because of it's violation of human rights. Especially those of Myanmar's refugees. The fishing industry drew special attention for that. I guess you must be distressed that Thailand would allow the mistreatment of illegal immigrants.

 

Wrong, flat out wrong. 

 

You just made that up in your head.

 

The human rights issue is separate and always has been from economic manipulation. And you know that Thailand is subject to constant monitoring on the human rights issue, 

 

https://www.mfa.go.th/en/content/2024tipreport-2?cate=5d5bcb4e15e39c306000683e

 

All you have done with your nonsensical answer is prove you were unaware that Thailand was already on an economic watchlist. Feel free to search the archives of AN or other sources on the Internet to find what the other factor(s) are.  

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6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Bush - Gore - FL, it even ended up in the courts.  Then he conceded 🙄

The Supreme Court rued 5 to 4 in favor of Bush. So it wasn't like their case was baseless. Unlike the repeated 9 to ) rejections of the Trump campaign's attempts to overthrow the results. However, Al Gore will live in infamy after calling for his massed supporters to fight on his behalf. Their invasion of the Capitol was nothing less than an insurrection and Barack Obama's pardoning of them was a disgrace.

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Just now, theblether said:

 

Wrong, flat out wrong. 

 

You just made that up in your head.

 

The human rights issue is separate and always has been from economic manipulation. And you know that Thailand is subject to constant monitoring on that issue, I believe the last report showed improvement. 

 

All you have done with your nonsensical answer is prove you were unaware that Thailand was already on an economic watchlist. Feel free to search the archives of AN or other sources on the Internet to find what the other factor(s) are.  

The only economics watchlist Thailand has been on is about intellectual property. And they've improved on that. Please share with the rest of us a link about to any other watchlist Thailand is currently on.

[theblether]

Just now, placeholder said:

The only economics watchlist Thailand has been on is about intellectual property. And they've improved on that. Please share with the rest of us a link about to any other watchlist Thailand is currently on.

 

Again, wrong - you are gibbering. DYOR. 

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4 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Again, wrong - you are gibbering. DYOR. 

I'm not your administrative assistant. Honorable people back up their claims.

[Screaming]

I hope so as Thailand imposes a 100% tariff on many goods from the United States.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I'm not your administrative assistant. Honorable people back up their claims.

With "links" 

[theblether]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I'm not your administrative assistant. Honorable people back up their claims.

 

I told you already what the issue was and you charged off again with your wild speculations and utter drivel. I was kind enough to show you the human trafficking report but until you admit that you didn't know that Thailand was on the economic manipulation watchlist I won't bother posting the relevant link(s). 

 

So, put your hand up, and admit you didn't know. 

[Dutchjohn]

4 hours ago, Purdey said:

I understood that Thailand is joining BRICS but why would they agree to a new currency? I think they will, not knowing the repercussions.

There, I fixed it for you.

[theblether]

36 minutes ago, theblether said:

Most of you will be unaware that Thailand has been on a sanction watch list by the USA for years, based upon currency manipulation, protectionism and other factors. One reason why they haven't been sanctioned before now is the general US political consensus that they are a useful ally in SE Asia. 

 

If Thailand joins BRICS it's joining an organisation known to be hostile to US interests. That's a decision for Thailand. If they then suffer the consequences for declaring themselves allied with hostile nations they'll have brought it upon themselves. 

 

Far too much ranting here by people who genuinely don't know what they are talking about. 

 

And be honest, did you know Thailand was on a sanction watchlist before you flew foot first into this thread?

 

For the benefit of other forum members, I mentioned exactly the issue on this reply. Thailand has long been on a watchlist for economic protectionism via currency manipulation, tariffs and interest rate manipulation. 

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1827324/us-mulls-listing-thailand-as-currency-manipulator 

 

This was also an issue during the Obama years when deep irritation set in after Thaksin's USA visit in 2005, followed by the 2006 coup. There was talk of requesting Yingluck to address the issue in 2013 but heightened political tension put everything onto the backburner. 

 

 

[John Drake]

26 minutes ago, PomPolo said:

If Thailand did join BRICS then would definitely cause a a big Trump (slang for fart) given then they would be directly aligned with Russia and China, and "suffer the consequences" is definitely correct terminology.

 

They've already applied to join.

 

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In a major step towards increased engagement on the global stage, the government is seeking full membership for Thailand in the BRICS group. . . . Maris said that Thailand hoped to join the group in August next year. And Thailand could help forge a link between BRICS and other groups, such as Asean and Asia Cooperation Dialogue.  https://world.thaipbs.or.th/detail/the-implications-of-thailand-becoming-a-brics-member/55278

 

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19 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

I told you already what the issue was and you charged off again with your wild speculations and utter drivel. I was kind enough to show you the human trafficking report but until you admit that you didn't know that Thailand was on the economic manipulation watchlist I won't bother posting the relevant link(s). 

 

So, put your hand up, and admit you didn't know. 

You told us what you claim the issue was but you offered no evidence to support it. And you still haven't.

[theblether]

1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

They've already applied to join.

 

 

 

All part of the Thai policy to engage in free trade, the problem is they haven't thought through the consequences of joining a group perceived as hostile by the USA. Don't be shocked if the application is withdrawn. 

 

Anyway, my primary point is - Thailand has been on an economic watchlist for years. 

[theblether]

Just now, placeholder said:

You told us what you claim the issue was but you offered no evidence to support it. And you still haven't.

 

Read my previous reply, the link is there. 

[PomPolo]

Just now, John Drake said:

 

They've already applied to join.

 

 

They go to the meetings but not a member and I am not 100% sure about this but I read an article where the government had approved seeking membership but that is probably also BS as the same government approved buying a Submarine they never needed that also never happened also the government aren't so clued up on governing given they have 250 non-elected junta appointed senators (fresh in my mind posting on something similar the other day) so the army can approve anything they want, the only upside is it means there will be no coup until the political imbalance of 250 non-elected senators changes
I will start posting again when I get out of jail for all my posts! 🤣

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1 minute ago, theblether said:

 

Read my previous reply, the link is there. 

The link there says that in the declining days of the Trump administration putting Thailand on a watch list was considered. Nothing there to support your claim that Thailand has been on an economic watchlist for years.

[theblether]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The link there says that in the declining days of the Trump administration putting Thailand on a watch list was considered. Nothing there to support your claim that Thailand has been on an economic watchlist for years.

 

Oh, dear oh dear oh dear. I knew you'd fall for that. You are so gullible its beyond belief. 

 

Do you sincerely believe that Thailand was not under the economic watchlist during the Bush and Obama years too? I specifically mentioned 2005 and 2013. But - just to show up your level of stupidity - here's a link to Thailand being found a currency manipulator by Biden's administration. 

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/general/2101043/bot-shrugs-off-us-currency-watchlist-tag

 

 

 

[frank83628]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I think it's a real possibility. 

If it happens I hope Thailand doesn't retaliate against American expats.

That is the whole reason BRISCs was formed, so smaller countries are not bullied by the US of Arse with economic sanctions dished out on a whim.

Its too big to stop now, just hopw the smaller contries don't back down

[theblether]

For the benefit of other forum members -  1997

 

https://www.frbsf.org/research-and-insights/publications/economic-letter/1997/11/lessons-from-thailand/

[PomPolo]

28 minutes ago, John Drake said:

seeking full membership for Thailand in the BRICS group

Seeking is the key word John 🙂

[John Drake]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

That is the whole reason BRISCs was formed, so smaller countries are not bullied by the US of Arse with economic sanctions dished out on a whim.

Its too big to stop now, just hopw the smaller contries don't back down

 

No, BRICS was formed to replace democratic governance worldwide with authoritarian/dictatorships. 

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

No, BRICS was formed to replace democratic governance worldwide with authoritarian/dictatorships. 

No, BRICS was formed after the USD was weaponised, other gotnwise to us bullying and hegemony.

Slapping economic sanction countries and people that don't agree to your demands is the the very definition of authoritarian/ dictatorship 

[John Drake]

4 minutes ago, PomPolo said:

Seeking is the key word John 🙂

 

With a goal of being a full member seven months from now, in August. 

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Thailand has reaffirmed its determination to elevate the engagement with BRICS as stressed in a June 2024 letter, expressing its interest in joining BRICS as a full member, according the Foreign Ministry statement. Maris said that Thailand hoped to join the group in August next year.

 

[PomPolo]

Just now, John Drake said:

 

No, BRICS was formed to replace democratic governance worldwide with authoritarian/dictatorships. 

The most true statement in the entire thread @John Drake
North Korea have shown an interest in joining that's a whole new can of worms and would definitely require new AN Topics 🤣

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3279765/north-korea-eyes-membership-china-led-brics-amid-growing-ties-russia

 

[Isaan sailor]

4 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Loads more countries to trade with than the USA. Let them isolate themselves, who cares.

USA consumer paying double the amount for tropical fruit or will they produce that themselves. Start growing rice too amongst others.

The US does grow rice already—very large, efficient farms.

[John Drake]

Just now, PomPolo said:

The most true statement in the entire thread @John Drake
North Korea have shown an interest in joining that's a whole new can of worms and would definitely require new AN Topics 🤣

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3279765/north-korea-eyes-membership-china-led-brics-amid-growing-ties-russia

 

 

It's a replay of Japan, Germany, Italy and the smaller axis partners, Rumania, Hungary, and even the Indian collaborators of the Indian National Army.