Trump & Netanyahu Press Conference: U.S. will "take over" and "own" the Gaza Strip.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

This is Trumps idea. So, it would be only fair if he builds houses for all those Palestinians in America. 😉 

 

   So you want both Israelis  and Palestinians to both move to the USA ?

[cjinchiangrai]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So you want both Israelis  and Palestinians to both move to the USA ?

Trump could build more casinos that way.

[OneMoreFarang]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Youve been shouting so much about genocide and ethnic cleansing in the last 15 months  , that no one takes much notice of it anymore .

   *The boys who cried wolf *

Blind pro-Israeli people take no notice. The rest of us know it is true.

[spidermike007]

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

His supporters have learnt nothing from his lawless and chaotic first term. He grifted and his gillible low information supporters still continue to buy his junks and support his hair brain policies. Trump will be more power crazy and dangerous this time emboldened by cowardly Maga lawmakers who are will not dare to challenge him. We can expect more turbelent years ahead. 

 

Saudi and UAE have already pledged to pay for the reconstruction of Gaza. EU especially Germany who have been major donors of humantarian aids for occupied Palestine territories will likely to participate. Israel should shoulder rebuilding responsibilties for the damage inflicted. The rebuilding is estimated to cost about $50 B. Really don;t need any help from Trump. Just need him to shut his fat lips from creating confusion and chaos. 

The vetting process for his substandard picks to lead the massive departments running the US government are evidence that the very cowardly congress and senate have bowed down to him on a level that's only comparable to the sycophantic senators of ancient Rome. It is very scary. There is no check on his power now. It is a total capitulation. 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Youve been shouting so much about genocide and ethnic cleansing in the last 15 months  , that no one takes much notice of it anymore .

   *The boys who cried wolf *

That you and a few others don’t take notice (more precisely turn a blind eye and deaf ear) should not be extrapolated to the assumption that ‘no one takes much notice’.

 

Netanyahu standing next to Trump as he drones on about taking over the home of the Palestinian’s of Gaza is an invite for more trouble.

 

Trump has already said the quiet bit out loud, the ethnic cleansing of Gaza is firmly on the table.

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It's a toxic environment there in Gaza, they need to more to a more peaceful location .

  They need to leave that environment and be rehabilitated 

And who made if toxic? Who bombed it to rubble and who supplied all those bombs and fighter jets and bombers?

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, UWEB said:

Another proof that Donald lives in a different world

It is more like an accelerating cognitive decline. He has said that he studied this very closely over a lot of months. That is scary. 

[Chomper Higgot]

44 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians have shown time and time again that they cannot behave themselves , they cause terror and violence frequently .
They need to go, they need to be evicted from the land .
Losing Gaza is a reasonable punishment for their atrocities on Oct 7 th .
A suitable punishment for their inhumane acts of terror

There we have it, unquestionably ethnic cleansing, and nobody forced you to admit it.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And who made if toxic? Who bombed it to rubble and who supplied all those bombs and fighter jets and bombers?

Hamas made it toxic, I thought that was obvious. Hamas used their own civilian population as human shields while they had their tunnels. I thought you knew that. Hamas are on record saying all these people are necessary sacrifices. 

 

Yes Hamas the terrorist's made it toxic

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So you want both Israelis  and Palestinians to both move to the USA ?

IMHO Palestinians should stay on their own land and Israelis should relocate to the USA or anybody who wants them.

 

But the USA is responsible for all this mess. If the USA would not supply Israel with unlimited weapons and support, then Israel could not have won this war.

I doubt any Palestinians want to live in the USA. But the USA destroyed their homes and home country. So it would only be fair if the USA would be responsible for giving them homes.

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Sir Dude said:

Well, that's going to go down like a lead balloon. I see that there doesn't seem to be much point having Gaza as it is, basically a huge open prison, where it is, and just going back into the previously done cycle of destroy-rebuild-destroy-rebuild-destroy again as these two simply are having too much of a hard time being neighbours.

Something radical might have to be tried, like maybe just give them and equivalent sized piece of land ajacent to the West Bank and move them all there, plus give the West Bank government funding to build housing and infrastructure... but even then, it'll be a hard sell.

How about something really radical?!

 

Recognize the right of Palestinians to statehood and self determination in their own state.
 

The same rights the Just rest of enjoy.

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And who made if toxic? Who bombed it to rubble and who supplied all those bombs and fighter jets and bombers?

 

   I am quite sure that you know why Israel went to war with Hamas and you don't need me to tell you why Gaza got bombed

[No Forwarding Address]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Once again the nimwitt leader demonstrates his spectacular level of ignorance when it comes to world affairs, he wants to take over the Panama Canal, Greenland and now the Gaza Strip. What's next from a man who claims that he was going to get us out of the various wars that the US supports?

 

This kind of stuff is very rich, and it does reveal his true level of megalomania and his great thirst for additional power. 

I think he wants to invade The British Empire, something about Tea vs Coffee??

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So you want both Israelis  and Palestinians to both move to the USA ?

Try this make a serious suggestion that one of these is denied their land and moved overseas.

 

Then repeat for the others.

 

See how it goes. 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

IMHO Palestinians should stay on their own land and Israelis should relocate to the USA or anybody who wants them.

 

 

   What about the Palestinians with Israel citizenship , should they also move to the USA ?

   All 2 million of them ?

Do you mean ALL Israelis or just Israeli Jews ?

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, tomazbodner said:

Where's MAGA crowd to defend this one?

Effing Fox was reporting how EVERYONE in the WORLD just LOVED this move. Beyond nauseating!

[Nick Carter icp]

27 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

When did this misbehaving begin?

Maybe when Israel was established on Palestinian land?

How dare these Palestinians didn't like that. 

 

 

A crash course on history of PALESTINIAN STATE:

1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state

2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.

You have now been educated. You are welcome.

A link as requested by @Chomper Higgot

   

 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

IMHO Palestinians should stay on their own land and Israelis should relocate to the USA or anybody who wants them.

 

But the USA is responsible for all this mess. If the USA would not supply Israel with unlimited weapons and support, then Israel could not have won this war.

I doubt any Palestinians want to live in the USA. But the USA destroyed their homes and home country. So it would only be fair if the USA would be responsible for giving them homes.

 

 

 

 

That too is a call for ethnic cleansing.

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

57 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians have shown time and time again that they cannot behave themselves , they cause terror and violence frequently .
They need to go, they need to be evicted from the land .
Losing Gaza is a reasonable punishment for their atrocities on Oct 7 th .
A suitable punishment for their inhumane acts of terror

A US invasion is NOT the way to solve this issue. Since you're not clear on this, the Gaza Strip is part of a SOVEREIGN NATION'S LAND. It is illegal in every concept of  international law for US to place boots on the ground in this manner. It is essentially an act of war.

[spidermike007]

6 minutes ago, No Forwarding Address said:

I think he wants to invade The British Empire, something about Tea vs Coffee??

Despite his rhetoric I think it's very difficult to tell at this point which country he wants to invade next, which country he wants to take over, and where his priorities lie. The man is so confused, his messages so garbled and jumbled, that they change from day to day. 

 

There is a reason why I've been saying for a long time that he is one of the most dangerous men in the world. 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

A crash course on history of PALESTINIAN STATE:

1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state

2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.

You have now been educated. You are welcome.

Nice quoting skills, but you forgot to add a link to where you got it from.

 

Link please.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Saudi Arabia are building the line city just across from Israel , its scheduled to house 9 million people , Palestinians could all move there 

Why should they move? Do you want to be deported?

[OneMoreFarang]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am quite sure that you know why Israel went to war with Hamas and you don't need me to tell you why Gaza got bombed

I understand why Israel fought Hamas. I don't understand why they destroyed the homes, schools, hospitals, and much more of the Palestinian people and why they killed tens of thousands of innocent people including thousands of children.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand why Israel fought Hamas. I don't understand why they destroyed the homes, schools, hospitals, and much more of the Palestinian people and why they killed tens of thousands of innocent people including thousands of children.

Are you that ignorant to the facts about where Hamas were hiding in amongst the homes, schools and hospitals?

[FritsSikkink]

28 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It's a toxic environment there in Gaza, they need to more to a more peaceful location .

  They need to leave that environment and be rehabilitated 

It is toxic because both parties can't behave. 

[OneMoreFarang]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That too is a call for ethnic cleansing.

 

It is an alternative to Trump's suggestion.

I think that relocation could be done in peace. Israelis move to the USA and everybody is happy.

In fact, I am sure the middle east would be long term much more peaceful if the Israelis would go away. Just ask all the people around Israel about it. I am sure they would welcome the relocation of all Israelis to the USA.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand why Israel fought Hamas. I don't understand why they destroyed the homes, schools, hospitals, and much more of the Palestinian people and why they killed tens of thousands of innocent people including thousands of children.

 

   You must know that by now , you've been told numerous times why.

Can you not remember when you were told the last time ?

Anyway , I am not ging to tell you again, there's no point as you wont remember this time either 

[hotsun]

The debate on this topic is beyond played out and the arguments repeated day in and day out. I stand with israel because jews dont kill people for not believing in their god. Euros that defend muslims are beyond brainwashed

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

It is an alternative to Trump's suggestion.

I think that relocation could be done in peace. Israelis move to the USA and everybody is happy.

In fact, I am sure the middle east would be long term much more peaceful if the Israelis would go away. Just ask all the people around Israel about it. I am sure they would welcome the relocation of all Israelis to the USA.

There is already an alternative to Trump’s ‘suggestion’.

 

Its called the two state solution and it has wide international backing.

[OneMoreFarang]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You must know that by now , you've been told numerous times why.

Can you not remember when you were told the last time ?

Anyway , I am not ging to tell you again, there's no point as you wont remember this time either 

 

Thank you for promising me you won't repeat yourself. I am not sure that will happen, but it would be refreshing.

And "you've been told numerous times" reminds me of some teachers repeating the same thing again and again - without thinking a little bit in between.