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8 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

You're seriously posting a link to an article that says USAID and the Clintons were part of the Pizzagate child sex trafficking scheme? The same Pizzagate child sex trafficking scheme that is an absolute and total fantasy?

 

So you don't think the Pizzagate story was concocted to divert attention from the Diddy story, to make it seem so ridiculous that anyone pointing out Diddy's parties would be derided and made to look the fool?

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Before DOGE is through, mediabiasfactcheck.com will be one of their reveals.

 

Which is neither here, nor there.  Are they wrong?

 

 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why dodge the question? If you don't know, just say you don't know. 

Claims must be backed by reliable sources. I'm not going to waste my time with a crappy source. But feel free to back those claims with reliable sources!

Posted
24 minutes ago, impulse said:

Are they wrong?

 

BTW, I can point to a dozen crappier sources without even breaking a sweat.

Yes, they are wrong.

 

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Further, government data from fiscal years 2008-24 showed that USAID had not given more than $7.5 million to [the Clinton] foundation. Finally, tax returns show Chelsea Clinton does not receive any compensation for her work at the foundation.

 

No, Chelsea Clinton didn't receive $84M from USAID

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chelsea-clinton-84-million-usaid/

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Posted
2 minutes ago, candide said:

 

Claims must be backed by reliable sources. I'm not going to waste my time with a crappy source. But feel free to back those claims with reliable sources!

You're being rather dishonest. I made not claims, I only asked a few easy questions, that you dodged. 

 

Again, do you not think that the public should know what funds USAID distributes and to who?

 

Bullet points in an annual report are useless. Why did the USAID leadership not open the books and cooperate? 

 

Again, I think any I should be able to the USAID website and see where every penny is going, don't you? 

 

So again, no one is shutting the program down. Payments are being paused. All it would take to have a payment/program released would be for a couple of people in congress to stand up and go on the record as to why it should be funded.

 

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You're being rather dishonest. I made not claims, I only asked a few easy questions, that you dodged. 

 

Again, do you not think that the public should know what funds USAID distributes and to who?

 

Bullet points in an annual report are useless. Why did the USAID leadership not open the books and cooperate? 

 

Again, I think any I should be able to the USAID website and see where every penny is going, don't you? 

 

So again, no one is shutting the program down. Payments are being paused. All it would take to have a payment/program released would be for a couple of people in congress to stand up and go on the record as to why it should be funded.

 

Stop trolling.

 

I have replied to your question about making USAID information available.

Quote:

"I have nothing against publishing details"

 

About the other question, someone else replied already.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chelsea-clinton-84-million-usaid/

 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And Biden wasn't wearing his hardhat backwards, according to Snopes.  That's how trustworthy they are.

 

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Dollars to donut holes they're they were getting USAID money, too.

 

One of the most dishonest "fact checkers". There can be no doubt Snopes were getting money to twist fact into lies. Mediabiasfactcheck too. They downgraded Daily Mail after they dna tested Ilhan Omars brother's hair and compared it to a cigarette butt Ms Omar dropped. So much for the Trust the Science mantra!

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8 minutes ago, candide said:

Stop trolling.

 

I have replied to your question about making USAID information available.

Quote:

"I have nothing against publishing details"

 

About the other question, someone else replied already.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chelsea-clinton-84-million-usaid/

 

I said nothing about the Clintons. 

 

Why did the USAID leadership not open the books and cooperate? 

 

So, you agree that we should be able to the USAID website and see where every penny is going, correct? 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

One of the most dishonest "fact checkers". There can be no doubt Snopes were getting money to twist fact into lies. Mediabiasfactcheck too. They downgraded Daily Mail after they dna tested Ilhan Omars brother's hair and compared it to a cigarette butt Ms Omar dropped. So much for the Trust the Science mantra!

 

Those kids from DOGE will find the trail of USAID cash to Snopes.  Dollars to donut holes. 

 

Yesterday, I saw a diagram tracking the convoluted way money's being laundered.  Looked like one of those maze puzzle books I used to fly with to occupy a few hours.

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I said nothing about the Clintons. 

 

Why did the USAID leadership not open the books and cooperate? 

 

So, you agree that we should be able to the USAID website and see where every penny is going, correct? 

 

"Why did they not open the books and cooperate."

When did they do that? Source?

 

As I wrote, I have nothing against it. 

Posted
1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Those kids from DOGE will find the trail of USAID cash to Snopes.  Dollars to donut holes. 

 

Yesterday, I saw a diagram tracking the convoluted way money's being laundered.  Looked like one of those maze puzzle books I used to fly with to occupy a few hours.

 

 

More baseless claims...

Posted
5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

But her foundation via Obama administration did receive USaid funding...

... "USAID

Chelsea Clinton receives an annually-recurring funding from USAID, allocated by Obama for her Foundation, which provides afternoon meals to children in Africa, India, and Bangladesh.

 

However, as of today, the reported number of meals served stands at 11,886, implying an astonishing cost of $1,410 per meal."  :coffee1:

 

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source: https://www.caclubindia.com/money/finance/chelsea-clinton-net-worth/

 

But I think there's a risk in getting on HRC's bad side.  Maybe DOGE can look into that list, too. 

 

I did some back of an envelope statistics and found the odds to be real low that so many would die mysterious deaths.  Like one start in the universe low.

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

But her foundation via Obama administration did receive USaid funding...

... "USAID

Chelsea Clinton receives an annually-recurring funding from USAID, allocated by Obama for her Foundation, which provides afternoon meals to children in Africa, India, and Bangladesh.

 

However, as of today, the reported number of meals served stands at 11,886, implying an astonishing cost of $1,410 per meal."  :coffee1:

 

image.png.c143678fe446134ae48eef07569098c2.png

 

image.png.618f3e9e19cef3ce9bfbff196711cf41.png

source: https://www.caclubindia.com/money/finance/chelsea-clinton-net-worth/

Caclubindia. More crappy sources! :biggrin:

Posted
2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

But I think there's a risk in getting on HRC's bad side.  Maybe DOGE can look into that list, too. 

 

I did some back of an envelope statistics and found the odds to be real low that so many would die mysterious deaths.  Like one start in the universe low.

 

More intrusions from the MAGA alternate universe....:biggrin:

Posted
2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

But her foundation via Obama administration did receive USaid funding...

... "USAID

Chelsea Clinton receives an annually-recurring funding from USAID, allocated by Obama for her Foundation, which provides afternoon meals to children in Africa, India, and Bangladesh.

 

However, as of today, the reported number of meals served stands at 11,886, implying an astonishing cost of $1,410 per meal."  :coffee1:

 

image.png.618f3e9e19cef3ce9bfbff196711cf41.png

source: https://www.caclubindia.com/money/finance/chelsea-clinton-net-worth/

As long as the money's going to leftist organizations that's all they care about. 

 

Remember, those plates of rice and beans have to be inspected once a month by lefty, using lefty's Range Rover SV to transport lefty from lefty's five-star hotel, after being flown in via the lefty foundation's private jet. 

 

So, a $75K trans show likely includes first-class airfare, five-star accommodation, a hefty stipend and private tours for the cast. 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And Biden wasn't wearing his hardhat backwards, according to Snopes.  That's how trustworthy they are.

 

Bidenhardhat.jpg.fc35039a85b6c0d4625c54a5f0ee8194.jpg

 

Dollars to donut holes they're they were getting USAID money, too.

 

 

11 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

One of the most dishonest "fact checkers". There can be no doubt Snopes were getting money to twist fact into lies. Mediabiasfactcheck too. They downgraded Daily Mail after they dna tested Ilhan Omars brother's cigarette end and compared it to a cigarette butt Ms Omar dropped. So much for the Trust the Science mantra!

Blah blah.

 

She did not personally receive any salary from her foundation, and her foundation never received 84 million.

 

MAGA lies! :biggrin:

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Posted
11 minutes ago, candide said:

"Why did they not open the books and cooperate."

When did they do that? Source?

 

As I wrote, I have nothing against it. 

"Two senior security officials at the US Agency for International Development (USAid) have been put on administrative leave after they blocked efforts by members of Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” (Doge) to access sensitive data from the agency, five current and former USAid officials have told the Guardian."

 

Senior USAid officials put on leave after denying access to Musk’s Doge team | Trump administration | The Guardian

Posted
6 minutes ago, candide said:

 

Blah blah.

 

She did not personally receive any salary from her foundation, and her foundation never received 84 million.

 

MAGA lies! 

 

There's those weasel words...  Next, we'll find out she didn't get a salary because she billed them as an independent contractor and not an employee, and that her foundation didn't get $84 mil, it got $86 mil.

 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

There's those weasel words...  Next, we'll find out she didn't get a salary because she billed them as an independent contractor and not an employee, and that her foundation didn't get $84 mil, it got $86 mil.

 

You are making up stuff again! :smile:

Posted
25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

"Two senior security officials at the US Agency for International Development (USAid) have been put on administrative leave after they blocked efforts by members of Elon Musk’s “department of government efficiency” (Doge) to access sensitive data from the agency, five current and former USAid officials have told the Guardian."

 

Senior USAid officials put on leave after denying access to Musk’s Doge team | Trump administration | The Guardian

Ok. Did they have the security clearance for accessing this data?

Posted

 

Rubio accused of talking garbage.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio  was heavily criticised by Dr Craig Spencer today over his disparaging claims that employees at the U.S. Agency for International Development have a "rank insubordination" problem.

"I’ve spoken to MANY folks in USAID over the last week. And many just today," wrote Dr Craig Spencer on X, who has spent his career on humanitarian health causes overseas and survived Ebola while fighting to contain the outbreak of that disease in Africa. "There is no rank insubordination. There is rank chaos, crying, and confusion."

"People who’ve spent DECADES of their life responding to health and humanitarian crises all over the world so we could be safe here don’t know whether they’ll be fired for good tomorrow … or asked to remain with a skeleton crew to try and respond to the numerous crises spinning out of control," Spencer continued. "People with kids who’ve been in schools for years abroad on behalf of the U.S. government are now being yanked out and pulled home. This is profoundly disruptive to so many people’s lives, and to pretend it isn’t only means he doesn’t care and isn’t listening."

Already, he warned, the paralysis of USAID is having devastating consequences.

"The clinics don’t run. The medications don’t get distributed. Today, children were likely born with HIV who otherwise wouldn’t have been, all because of how this administration unnecessarily yanked support so rapidly. We are demonizing some of the most amazing and selfless Americans who’ve committed themselves to a profession that often pays them less and works them more. They do it because they care. And by doing it they make us all safer."

"So these statements by Rubio are not only embarrassing and pure garbage, they defile the commitment of so many incredibly committed people who’ve done more for this country than so many of us," Spencer wrote. "Countries have been calling the White House to inform them of disease outbreaks and ask for support…and no one is there to answer the phone. Maybe focus on that first? Disgusting."

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Posted
32 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

Rubio accused of talking garbage.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio  was heavily criticised by Dr Craig Spencer today over his disparaging claims that employees at the U.S. Agency for International Development have a "rank insubordination" problem.

"I’ve spoken to MANY folks in USAID over the last week. And many just today," wrote Dr Craig Spencer on X, who has spent his career on humanitarian health causes overseas and survived Ebola while fighting to contain the outbreak of that disease in Africa. "There is no rank insubordination. There is rank chaos, crying, and confusion."

"People who’ve spent DECADES of their life responding to health and humanitarian crises all over the world so we could be safe here don’t know whether they’ll be fired for good tomorrow … or asked to remain with a skeleton crew to try and respond to the numerous crises spinning out of control," Spencer continued. "People with kids who’ve been in schools for years abroad on behalf of the U.S. government are now being yanked out and pulled home. This is profoundly disruptive to so many people’s lives, and to pretend it isn’t only means he doesn’t care and isn’t listening."

Already, he warned, the paralysis of USAID is having devastating consequences.

"The clinics don’t run. The medications don’t get distributed. Today, children were likely born with HIV who otherwise wouldn’t have been, all because of how this administration unnecessarily yanked support so rapidly. We are demonizing some of the most amazing and selfless Americans who’ve committed themselves to a profession that often pays them less and works them more. They do it because they care. And by doing it they make us all safer."

"So these statements by Rubio are not only embarrassing and pure garbage, they defile the commitment of so many incredibly committed people who’ve done more for this country than so many of us," Spencer wrote. "Countries have been calling the White House to inform them of disease outbreaks and ask for support…and no one is there to answer the phone. Maybe focus on that first? Disgusting."

You’re either ranting or your deliberate in not giving your leftest sources!

Perhaps if the  organization headed up by Samatha Powers was forthcoming in all of their dealings with Taxpayer monies , like supporting Hamas & other terrorist organizations & far left causes the new administration might of cut them some slack ! 
As it stands the left is looking in from out now ! When you appease radical causes you get treated radically .

Usaid was sneaking payments and not being truthful & uncooperative . Time stamp 3:00 -…

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, candide said:

Suuuuure!

From the left-wing Fortune! 🙂

 

Musk’s DOGE crew lacked high-enough security clearance to access that information, so the two USAID security officials — John Vorhees and deputy Brian McGill — were legally obligated to deny access

 

https://fortune.com/2025/02/02/elon-musk-doge-usaid-classified-info-security-chiefs-leave/

Information that we agree should be public. 

 

USAID is part of the Executive Branch

The Executive Branch issues security clearances

The President is in charge of the Executive branch

 

I don't doubt you can find any number of articles making that claim, but they have access now, and the people that denied them access are on administrative leave. 

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