No more need to comment/speculate about the faith of the Ukraine.

[swissie]

It is not necessary to comment / speculate on "the war in the Ukraine" anymore. Why? It all hinges on Donalds willingness to further support the Ukraine (or not). If not, the Ukraine is doomed. That is the ONLY deciding factor, everything else is of no relevance.

[scottiejohn]

8 hours ago, swissie said:

It is not necessary to comment / speculate on "the war in the Ukraine" anymore. Why? It all hinges on Donalds willingness to further support the Ukraine (or not). If not, the Ukraine is doomed. That is the ONLY deciding factor, everything else is of no relevance.

Explain that to the people still fighting and dying in both sides of the conflict!

[Gweiloman]

On 2/7/2025 at 11:01 PM, swissie said:

It is not necessary to comment / speculate on "the war in the Ukraine" anymore. Why? It all hinges on Donalds willingness to further support the Ukraine (or not). If not, the Ukraine is doomed. That is the ONLY deciding factor, everything else is of no relevance.

Ukraine hasn’t done that well even with the full support of NATO from the beginning. It was doomed from the start and it’s just a matter of time. The big beneficiary has been China and it seems to me that the longer the conflict continues, the more China benefits. 
 

An all round win for the global south.

[MicroB]

On 2/7/2025 at 4:01 PM, swissie said:

It is not necessary to comment / speculate on "the war in the Ukraine" anymore. Why? It all hinges on Donalds willingness to further support the Ukraine (or not). If not, the Ukraine is doomed. That is the ONLY deciding factor, everything else is of no relevance.

 

 

Use of the term "the Ukraine" as opposed to "Ukraine" indicates a preference for Soviet era languag, and not accepting the right of Ukraine to existance as a sovereign, independent state. In the modern era, its accepted that this language is used by Russophiles.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18233844

 

Can Ukraine exist without American largesse? Of course it can. The Russians cannot snuff out an idea.  When the Nazis occupied Western and Eastern Europe, those countries still existed even when, in same cases, the Nazis tried to wipe out the very existance of those nations. I assume you are SWiss. You lot happily profited from the Nazis.

 

Without US support, the job is harder against the orcs from the East. The US provides about 60% by value of mikitary hardware.. But remember, Russia has run down its stocks; its gone through 10,000 MBTs for instance, and its not getting replacements in any significant numberd. Ukraine has managed to grow its fleet, initially through Russia reluctantly supplying some, and latterly, Western replacements. Russia has burnt through its best kit. The Ukrainian forces though have upgraded. Russia sti needs a 3-1 advantage to advance. Russia can only win (the total occupation of Ukraine) through a dramatic change of tactics, such as tactical nuclear weapons. But that would of course be a hollow victory,

[MicroB]

On 2/9/2025 at 2:50 AM, Gweiloman said:

Ukraine hasn’t done that well even with the full support of NATO from the beginning. It was doomed from the start and it’s just a matter of time. The big beneficiary has been China and it seems to me that the longer the conflict continues, the more China benefits. 
 

An all round win for the global south.

 

Tankie apologist.

[Gweiloman]

5 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Tankie apologist.

What’s a tankie? 

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

What’s a tankie? 

 

Apparently, anyone who wants the dying to stop and the rebuilding to start is an apologist.

 

[Gweiloman]

12 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Apparently, anyone who wants the dying to stop and the rebuilding to start is an apologist.

 

They call anyone who is not on their side an apologist, shill, propagandist, orc etc. Name calling is all they have left.