2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

It was a visus that effected the elderly and those with preexisting health issues. Its proved now that the average age on COVID deaths was 82, there was no need to lock the entire planet down and force perfectly healthy young  people to get the jab, restrict peoples travel. I accept coivd was a virus, but the lockdowns and forced vaccines, censoroing on all social media of  criticism to the MSM narrative, it was used politically by the opposition to attack those in charge, and in the case of the USA it was used in order to push mail in ballots to cheat DJT out of a second term

If it wasn't for social  media there would never have even been a pandemic. 

So first its a scam and now a virus. Make up your mind Frank

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Dear me. Another poster attempting humour.

 

Can't you see Sir, there was no such thing as covid. No pandemic. Viruses do not cause disease. But I could tell you what does.

 

Too much BBC and CNN for you Sir. Better off reading my posts for the truth.

555

9 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

 

Too much BBC and CNN for you Sir.

 

i have access to neither

2 minutes ago, madone said:

 

i have access to neither

Good for you. Can do without those two awful platforms contaminating our minds with their biased news.

 

BBC is not bad for the footy though.

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

So, all those dead bodies piling up around the world were just a fluke and had nothing to do with Covid?

 

You really should ask to become a member of the new US NIH. Bobby LOVES loons.

Remember those medical ships Trump got into port, media saying they were basically going to be floating coffns.... they were not even used.

I symptom of COVID, was not showing any symptons🙄

18 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Dear me. Another poster attempting humour.

 

Can't you see Sir, there was no such thing as covid. No pandemic. Viruses do not cause disease. But I could tell you what does.

 

Too much BBC and CNN for you Sir. Better off reading my posts for the truth.

I thought it was very funny , you obviously cannot take a joke ,  So it's the BBC and CNN

that are killing people and are still at it , I suppose they send death though the airwaves .

 

regards worgeordie

@Red Phoenix Yeah, I'm still floored at the sheer number of Thais who bought into the pandemic 110%, and five years later still do.  All masked up for a mild flu and no doubt up-to-date on their Covid boosters and probably coming down with Covid on a yearly basis.  Worse are the Thai corporations who force their employees to mask up during working hours.  You can tell which corporation they are - walk into one of their stores and 100% of the employees are masked up.  At other corporate run stores without a mask policies the masked employees reflect the general public where 40% to 50% remained masked out of fear of Covid.  The people who instigated this sham quite literally mentally harmed entire swaths of the Thai public, a public who tend to be unquestioning followers to this day.  Freaking sad!

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I symptom of COVID, was not showing any symptons

This is a good point.

 

What were the symptoms? Very similar to flu symptoms. And that should not surprise anyone. Dr V Coleman says covid is/was the rebranded flu. Covid came on the scene and the flu virtually disappeared. Covid has now gone, and the flu has returned.  

 

The flu is a 'seasonal' body detox of the stuff stored up throughout the period leading up to the event itself.

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

I finally figured out your choice of screen name ..... random fake words you use because the screen name Chief Loon is already taken.

 

By the way... how's the crop of eucalyptus coming along?

Qui

 

51 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Very droll Sir. An attempt at humour?

easy to work out his real name

Howzat 😆 

I like all of the "confused" and "laughing" emojis click on posts by the "True Believer" who still buy into the Covid pandemic scam.  No doubt these folk keep up-to-date and their boosters which don't stop them from getting Covid, doesn't stop transmission of Covid, but makes them feel "Safe" while more and more evidence is now being released showing that those shots are neither "Safe" nor "Effective."
Let's not even discuss masking.

Personally I urged them to keep getting the shots as they are willing volunteers to be the long-term test subjects on the efficiency and safety of these shots.  Over the long term the truth will come up.  I wonder how many will be left with "Buyer's Remorse?"  Probably none as these really are true believers.  Faced with reality the cognitive dissonance will eat them alive.  Even when studying are release showing that the shots are dangerous, many if not most will continue to get them.  C'est la vie.  Up to you!

21 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said:

Qui

 

easy to work out his real name

Howzat 😆 

 

He wouldnt understand, probably one of those fellas who still plays rounders.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

This is a good point.

 

What were the symptoms? Very similar to flu symptoms. And that should not surprise anyone. Dr V Coleman says covid is/was the rebranded flu. Covid came on the scene and the flu virtually disappeared. Covid has now gone, and the flu has returned.  

 

The flu is a 'seasonal' body detox of the stuff stored up throughout the period leading up to the event itself.

And seasonal flu vanished those years of COVID.

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

Guessing seems to occupy a significant portion of your thoughts.  I am not shocked.

I will also guess you turned on your friends that didn't agree with getting vaccinated, because the media told you too

Peeples still believe in Corvid because they cannot bear the thought that their so called Rulers would lie to them about anything.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

This is a good point.

 

What were the symptoms? Very similar to flu symptoms. And that should not surprise anyone. Dr V Coleman says covid is/was the rebranded flu. Covid came on the scene and the flu virtually disappeared. Covid has now gone, and the flu has returned.  

 

The flu is a 'seasonal' body detox of the stuff stored up throughout the period leading up to the event itself.

 

25 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

And seasonal flu vanished those years of COVID.

 

So for the sake of argument, I'll assume that your contention that COVID is a sub-type of the existing influenza virus is correct. Do you agree that the vaccines available in 2019 seemingly offered no protection against this variation?

 

If so, then there was a lesson to be learned from history. The last time a sub-type of the influenza virus caused widespread inflection on a worldwide scale was in 1918. This resulted in 20 million deaths (conservative estimate). These facts hardly support your idea that governments' (initial) responses were disproportionate.

Sad how so many don't believe in science but only believe the words of an hardly educated con man.

2 minutes ago, RayC said:

So for the sake of argument, I'll assume that your contention that COVID is a sub-type of the existing influenza virus is correct. Do you agree that the vaccines available in 2019 seemingly offered no protection against this variation?

 

If so, then there was a lesson to be learned from history. The last time a sub-type of the influenza virus caused widespread inflection on a worldwide scale was in 1918. This resulted in 20 million deaths (conservative estimate). These facts hardly support your idea that governments' (initial) responses were disproportionate.

No!!

 

I'm not suggesting that; ",,,covid is a sub-type of the existing inflyenza virus,,,."

 

What I'm saying is; that xovid arrived and the flu disappeared. When covid went away, the flu came back. Neither are caused by a virus.

 

As for the Spanish flu. There were a number of reasons why there were so many deaths. But; a virus was not responsible for them.

Because I had the original Covid 19, nasty experince so do not tell me it is not real. Pandemic, will let others argue about if it is true or not.

 

 

2 hours ago, bubblegum said:

So first its a scam and now a virus. Make up your mind Frank

Read all the comments.

 

You mean Fauci?

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

And seasonal flu vanished those years of COVID.

Because a positive PCR-test was considered 'proof' of being infected with Covid-19, irrespective of whether you had a cold or the flu or any other illness.  Also when you didn't had any symptoms.  

The PCR-test to determine Covid-19 infection, was - and still is - an absolute scam, and the article I posted makes the role of that test in fueling the pandemic hysteria, absolutely clear.

And so the title of the article should be read as 'Why is it that despite all the evidence that there was no pandemic, that people still believe in Covid?'.  

And the comments from all those that didn't even read the article with the arguments made by the authors, but immediately discarded it as a 'loony conspiracy' actually provides the answer to that rhetoric question. 

 

18 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Because a positive PCR-test was considered 'proof' of being infected with Covid-19, irrespective of whether you had a cold or the flu or any other illness.  Also when you didn't had any symptoms.  

The PCR-test to determine Covid-19 infection, was - and still is - an absolute scam, and the article I posted makes the role of that test in fueling the pandemic hysteria, absolutely clear.

And so the title of the article should be read as 'Why is it that despite all the evidence that there was no pandemic, that people still believe in Covid?'.  

And the comments from all those that didn't even read the article with the arguments made by the authors, but immediately discarded it as a 'loony conspiracy' actually provides the answer to that rhetoric question. 

 

Yes, thailand did very little testing and there went not dead bodies piling up everywhere, only 91 deaths in a year attributed to 'with' COVID, then the self testing kits came along and all of a sudden cases rocketed, people were quarantined, people panicking and clucking like chickens, 14 days later 99.6 of those were fine and full recovery.

I remember an idiot on a phangan page would constantly show the stats of cases & deaths in thailand, but always cropped the 'recovered' box from his posts. I don't know why he was so adamant that COVID was so serious when the stats clearly showed deaths were less than 1%.

41 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Yes, thailand did very little testing and there went not dead bodies piling up everywhere, only 91 deaths in a year attributed to 'with' COVID, then the self testing kits came along and all of a sudden cases rocketed, people were quarantined, people panicking and clucking like chickens, 14 days later 99.6 of those were fine and full recovery.

I remember an idiot on a phangan page would constantly show the stats of cases & deaths in thailand, but always cropped the 'recovered' box from his posts. I don't know why he was so adamant that COVID was so serious when the stats clearly showed deaths were less than 1%.

So was/is Dr Coleman right to say that; "Covid is the rebranded flu?"

2 hours ago, RayC said:

If so, then there was a lesson to be learned from history. The last time a sub-type of the influenza virus caused widespread inflection on a worldwide scale was in 1918. This resulted in 20 million deaths (conservative estimate). These facts hardly support your idea that governments' (initial) responses were disproportionate.

Where did you get this nonsense from Ray?

 

Influenza is the name given to a body process. The process is to enable the body to return to optimum health.

 

Take a look at;

 

The effects of WW1. Its weaponry and trauma.

Suddenly - in 1917 - aspirin became freely available for manufacture.

Medical malpractice.

Radio (in the US)

 

3 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

No!!

 

I'm not suggesting that; ",,,covid is a sub-type of the existing inflyenza virus,,,."

 

What I'm saying is; that xovid arrived and the flu disappeared. When covid went away, the flu came back. Neither are caused by a virus.

 

As for the Spanish flu. There were a number of reasons why there were so many deaths. But; a virus was not responsible for them.

 

So neither flu or COVID are viruses. What are they then? Deadly bacteria? What caused the jump in the number of excess deaths worldwide in 2020? 

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Where did you get this nonsense from Ray?

 

Influenza is the name given to a body process. The process is to enable the body to return to optimum health.

 

Take a look at;

 

The effects of WW1. Its weaponry and trauma.

Suddenly - in 1917 - aspirin became freely available for manufacture.

Medical malpractice.

Radio (in the US)

 

 

So the 'non-virus' known as 'Spanish flu' managed to inflect 2/3rds of the world's population as a result of a combination of the trauma caused by WW1 (among non- combatans also?), aspirin becoming freely available (overuse causing death?) , radio (waves? messaging? only in the US?) and medical malpractice (worldwide?)

 

And I'm the one spouting nonsense!!! Rightio.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

So was/is Dr Coleman right to say that; "Covid is the rebranded flu?"

 

The onus is on you/ Dr Coleman to supply a credible argument to support the contention.

 

Let's just say I remain unconvinced.

4 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

Peeples still believe in Corvid because they cannot bear the thought that their so called Rulers would lie to them about anything.

 

Who exactly are these "Rulers"? Given that the COVID event was a global event, they must be part of a worldwide cohort.

 

Why release/ inflect/ manipulate/ mislead (add/amend/delete as you see fit) the masses as to the origin/ effects (again, add, etc) of the virus/non-virus? What was the "Rulers" objective?

I love conspiracy theories where the poster "did his own research". It is especially great when the authors have no basic education in the subject at hand. Always check the qualifications first!

Martin Neil, Professor of computer science and statistics at Queen Mary, University of London. UK.
Jonathan Engler, Healthcare entrepreneur 
Norman Fenton, Professor of Risk

 

Agreed, they are capable of reading a spreadsheet.

 

Now compare them with a highly qualified scientist: (Name withheld to protect the innocent) Doctor of Medicine, clinical associate in the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Laboratory of Clinical Investigation (LCI). Chief of the NIAID's Laboratory of Immunoregulation. He developed therapies for formerly fatal diseases such as polyarteritis nodosa, granulomatosis with polyangiitis, and lymphomatoid granulomatosis. In 2003, the Institute for Scientific Information stated that from 1983 to 2002 (he) was the 13th most-cited scientist among the 2.5 to 3.0 million authors in all disciplines throughout the world who published articles in scientific journals.

 

The Republican-led (no scientists) Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic 520-page report, offered no new direct evidence of a lab leak, but summarized a circumstantial case, including that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) used NIAID money to conduct “gain-of-function” studies that modified distantly related coronaviruses. You cannot blame politicians for not being able to study science.

 

1 hour ago, RayC said:

So neither flu or COVID are viruses. What are they then? Deadly bacteria? What caused the jump in the number of excess deaths worldwide in 2020? 

Correct Ray. Neither are caused by a virus,

 

Let's take the flu first. It is the name given to a set of symptoms that we humans 'suffer' with at times. Suffer, is not really the right word though. For as uncomfortable as it might be; ie, fever, cough, sneezes, tiredness, blocked nose etc. Without them we could be seriously sick in the future. They are returning the body back to good health.

 

Let me explain.

 

As I type, the body is working at keeping me in the best condition it can. Given the circumstances. What are these? The defence/maintenance system will eliminate anything it sees as unnatural, harmful or obviously toxic. It has mechanisms within to do this, The efficiency of the mechanisms depend upon various factors. Nutritious diet. Plenty of fresh water. Clean air. Free from EMFs (AMAP). Being at one with nature. Giving and accepting love. Free of fear.

 

Over the course of time, for how long, and how much, depends upon our local environment, we take in toxins. The ones associated with flu are taken in mostly through breathing. Anything we can smell is taken in. Smoke? Stuff that is in the body, also, that the blood-vascular system wants to eliminate. Can be problematic that, as the failure to eliminate can lead to cancer. Another topic for that.

 

But sticking to particles that are inhaled for the mo. Some are captured in the mucus membranes in the head. While others get no further than the fine fibrils, that the air has to pass through on its way to the lung exchange centre, where gasses swap places. If the fibrils do not take out the undesirables, then enzymes and proteins, get to work capturing, coating, and tucking them away.

 

At certain times of the year, or when the sensors say; ''enough, we are full up'', detoxification gets underway. Not always easy to deal with. Can make yer feel awful for a few days. This, in a nutshell, is influenza.

 

As for covid. Easy! There is no such thing. All made up by the white-coats.

17 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Correct Ray. Neither are caused by a virus,

 

Let's take the flu first. It is the name given to a set of symptoms that we humans 'suffer' with at times. Suffer, is not really the right word though. For as uncomfortable as it might be; ie, fever, cough, sneezes, tiredness, blocked nose etc. Without them we could be seriously sick in the future. They are returning the body back to good health.

 

Let me explain.

 

As I type, the body is working at keeping me in the best condition it can. Given the circumstances. What are these? The defence/maintenance system will eliminate anything it sees as unnatural, harmful or obviously toxic. It has mechanisms within to do this, The efficiency of the mechanisms depend upon various factors. Nutritious diet. Plenty of fresh water. Clean air. Free from EMFs (AMAP). Being at one with nature. Giving and accepting love. Free of fear.

 

Over the course of time, for how long, and how much, depends upon our local environment, we take in toxins. The ones associated with flu are taken in mostly through breathing. Anything we can smell is taken in. Smoke? Stuff that is in the body, also, that the blood-vascular system wants to eliminate. Can be problematic that, as the failure to eliminate can lead to cancer. Another topic for that.

 

But sticking to particles that are inhaled for the mo. Some are captured in the mucus membranes in the head. While others get no further than the fine fibrils, that the air has to pass through on its way to the lung exchange centre, where gasses swap places. If the fibrils do not take out the undesirables, then enzymes and proteins, get to work capturing, coating, and tucking them away.

 

At certain times of the year, or when the sensors say; ''enough, we are full up'', detoxification gets underway. Not always easy to deal with. Can make yer feel awful for a few days. This, in a nutshell, is influenza.

 

As for covid. Easy! There is no such thing. All made up by the white-coats.

 

Middle Stump,

 

You'll forgive me if I prefer the explanations proffered by, dare I say, a more illustrious source:

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/flu/symptoms-causes/syc-20351719

 

https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/topics/covid-19