Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Silly question, stop trolling. Its a quote from the article She is the subject to the OP, not her father. 1
Eloquent pilgrim Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: No it contains allegations ‘Hamas apologist’, is libel something you normally engage? It’s not wise thing to partake of here in Thailand. It's not wise to make veiled threats to other posters on this forum either. 1
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: How is that relevant, she violated First Amendment rights by supporting a designated terror group, celebrating the Oct 7th attacks & numerous other examples of inciting violence. The First Amendment provides broad protections to speech by the public. The only party that can "violate the First Amendment", or the rights provided by it, is the US government. This is because the First Amendment is intended to curb the US Government's ability to limit what one can say prior to saying it. What specific acts of violence is she alleged to have incited? The article is relevant because her speech may be protected speech under the First Amendment. Trump's executive order may or may not be found to be constitutional, in whole or in part. 1
Bkk Brian Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: She is the subject to the OP, not her father. From the OP: Saleh’s father, Yousef, has been widely quoted in media coverage of the Israel-Hamas conflict. He also served as director of the U.S.-based think tank United Association for Studies and Research (UASR), which The Wall Street Journal has described as a front for Hamas. UASR was founded by Musa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas official currently based in Doha, Qatar, who is now the group's second-in-command. Yousef led the organization until 2005 before returning to Gaza to advise Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.
Bkk Brian Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: The First Amendment provides broad protections to speech by the public. The only party that can "violate the First Amendment", or the rights provided by it, is the US government. This is because the First Amendment is intended to curb the US Government's ability to limit what one can say prior to saying it. What specific acts of violence is she alleged to have incited? The article is relevant because her speech may be protected speech under the First Amendment. Trump's executive order may or may not be found to be constitutional, in whole or in part. What specific acts of violence is she alleged to have incited? Read the OP including the video, 3rd page in and you still don't know...........😴
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: From the OP: Saleh’s father, Yousef, has been widely quoted in media coverage of the Israel-Hamas conflict. He also served as director of the U.S.-based think tank United Association for Studies and Research (UASR), which The Wall Street Journal has described as a front for Hamas. UASR was founded by Musa Abu Marzook, a senior Hamas official currently based in Doha, Qatar, who is now the group's second-in-command. Yousef led the organization until 2005 before returning to Gaza to advise Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh. Saleh's father isn't subject to deportation from the US. The article is about the daughter's presence in the US and enrollment in Georgetown. 2
Bkk Brian Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: Saleh's father isn't subject to deportation from the US. The article is about the daughter's presence in the US and enrollment in Georgetown. Where did I claim he was? His connection is highly relevant though as detailed in the OP
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: What specific acts of violence is she alleged to have incited? Read the OP including the video, 3rd page in and you still don't know...........😴 Voicing support for something isn't the same as incitement. She would have to be directly responsible for urging or requesting someone to commit a specific act prior to the act taking place. I haven't seen allegations of that in any of the OP and video. 1
Bkk Brian Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: Voicing support for something isn't the same as incitement. She would have to be directly responsible for urging or requesting someone to commit a specific act prior to the act taking place. I haven't seen allegations of that in any of the OP and video. Defending terrorist support and defending her support for a designated terrorist group, shameful of you. Celebrating Oct 7th the worst massacre of Jews since the holocaust is hardly not supporting violence. Since the October 7 attack, Mapheze repeatedly expressed support for the terror attack and glorified those who carried out the atrocities. Her social-media profiles continue to glorify Hamas terrorists. More recently, however, she has posted footage of the Israeli hostages being dragged in front of hostile crowds. Former President Donald Trump recently signed an executive order on January 30 to revoke student visas of individuals who have shown support for Hamas, as part of a broader crackdown on anti-Semitism in American universities. 1
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Where did I claim he was? His connection is highly relevant though as detailed in the OP I'm not sure to what extent the actions of someone's parent would be relevant in a court of law. I could see how such a connection may be relevant to decisions regarding admissibility of aliens when they apply for a visa to the US. Foreigners outside the US probably don't have much in the way of constitutional rights. Foreigners in the US have much more protection under the constitution. I think it would be much more difficult to deport someone based upon the actions of their parent. 1
Bkk Brian Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: I'm not sure to what extent the actions of someone's parent would be relevant in a court of law. I could see how such a connection may be relevant to decisions regarding admissibility of aliens when they apply for a visa to the US. Foreigners outside the US probably don't have much in the way of constitutional rights. Foreigners in the US have much more protection under the constitution. I think it would be much more difficult to deport someone based upon the actions of their parent. No I am sure your not sure
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Defending terrorist support and defending her support for a designated terrorist group, shameful of you. Celebrating Oct 7th the worst massacre of Jews since the holocaust is hardly not supporting violence. Since the October 7 attack, Mapheze repeatedly expressed support for the terror attack and glorified those who carried out the atrocities. Her social-media profiles continue to glorify Hamas terrorists. More recently, however, she has posted footage of the Israeli hostages being dragged in front of hostile crowds. Former President Donald Trump recently signed an executive order on January 30 to revoke student visas of individuals who have shown support for Hamas, as part of a broader crackdown on anti-Semitism in American universities. I am voicing support for the Constitution and especially the First Amendment, not Saleh's actions or statements. Don't confuse my support of the Constitution with sympathy for Saleh or the Palestinians. An assault on one person's constitutional rights is an assault on everyone's constitutional rights. If she has broken the law, then she should face the consequences and potentially be deported after due process. 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: I am voicing support for the Constitution and especially the First Amendment, not Saleh's actions or statements. Don't confuse my support of the Constitution with sympathy for Saleh or the Palestinians. An assault on one person's constitutional rights is an assault on everyone's constitutional rights. If she has broken the law, then she should face the consequences and potentially be deported after due process. Yes of course you are. She violated it as the evidence clearly shows. 1
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Just now, Bkk Brian said: Yes of course you are. She violated it as the evidence clearly shows. Violated what, specifically? 2
proton Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, billd766 said: Why not do a simple internet search of the word "bile". I will give you a clue, I did not mean the word in its medical term. As for the rest of your post, you just proved my point. Why not do a simple search on the history of islam and the life of the so called disgusting prophet? 3
Bkk Brian Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: Violated what, specifically? This for a start: Current immigration law — cited in the order — authorizes the deportation of a noncitizen who "endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization." The U.S. government considers Hamas a terrorist organization. https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/g-s1-45468/trump-antisemitism-executive-order-protests-deport-hamas
BritManToo Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said: I am voicing support for the Constitution and especially the First Amendment, not Saleh's actions or statements. Don't confuse my support of the Constitution with sympathy for Saleh or the Palestinians. An assault on one person's constitutional rights is an assault on everyone's constitutional rights. If she has broken the law, then she should face the consequences and potentially be deported after due process. Are foreigners covered by the constitution? I thought it was for us citizens. 1
Eloquent pilgrim Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 hours ago, JonnyF said: Patience Grasshopper. They only just started looking. If I was her I'd be booking a one way ticket to one of the many middle eastern countries welcoming lovely Palestinians with open arms. Oh, wait a minute... Indeed; and she'll have to buy a back hiking tent to wear if she's going to Iran
Eloquent pilgrim Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 5 hours ago, billd766 said: You of course are the perfect example of how people should never be. Full of bile and hatred. Says a confirmed Hamas hugger 1
Etaoin Shrdlu Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: Are foreigners covered by the constitution? I thought it was for us citizens. Yes, for the most part they are if they are physically present in the US: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-2/ALDE_00001262/ There may be narrow exceptions, however. 1
coolcarer Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Wiggle room for terrorist supporters running out. At least this one will now not mock released hostages on her social media anymore. Time for joining her terrorist brothers in the tunnels. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: Are foreigners covered by the constitution? I thought it was for us citizens. You thought wrong. With a few exceptions the entirety of the U.S. Constitution defines and protects the rights and freedoms of anyone in the U.S. or under the jurisdiction of the U.S. and importantly defines the limits of U.S. Government power. Where you asleep in Civics? 1
proton Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You thought wrong. With a few exceptions the entirety of the U.S. Constitution defines and protects the rights and freedoms of anyone in the U.S. or under the jurisdiction of the U.S. and importantly defines the limits of U.S. Government power. Where you asleep in Civics? For almost it's whole existence protected the rights of anyone, as long as they were not native Americans, or black. They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they never kept but one; they promised to take our land, and they took it. – Red Cloud
Chomper Higgot Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, proton said: For almost it's whole existence protected the rights of anyone, as long as they were not native Americans, or black. They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they never kept but one; they promised to take our land, and they took it. – Red Cloud So is that’s you getting on board the abuses of the white hegemony ?
proton Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: So is that’s you getting on board the abuses of the white hegemony ? Don't you ever go out Chomper? 1
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