Popular Post garzhe Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Thingamabob said: A lot of pre-negotiation posturing going on. Meantime, it would be helpful if Zelensky would explain where the money has gone. So far the USA has contributed USD 150 billion approx to the war effort, much of it un-accounted for. There are many unfounded claims and conspiracy theories but official audits from different sources have not confirmed widespread misappropriation of any aid to Ukraine. The Ukrainian government, in collaboration with international partners, implements measures to enhance transparency and combat corruption. 1 1 1 1
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago 7 hours ago, Social Media said: Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has reportedly frustrated Donald Trump so much during ongoing peace negotiations with Russia that the former U.S. president nearly withdrew American military support for Ukraine, according to three U.S. officials familiar with the discussions. The friction between Trump and Zelensky escalated into a heated exchange that alarmed European allies, who fear the consequences of emboldening Russian President Vladimir Putin. “President Trump is obviously very frustrated right now with President Zelensky,” National Security Advisor Mike Waltz stated during a White House press briefing. The relationship between the two leaders has been uneasy since Trump’s first impeachment in 2019, which stemmed from his efforts to condition U.S. military aid on Zelensky’s willingness to investigate Joe Biden’s son and his connections to a Ukrainian gas company. Now, as Trump attempts to implement his promise of a swift resolution to the Russia-Ukraine war, he is finding it more difficult than expected. According to six administration officials, Zelensky made five key missteps over the past nine days that irritated Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Waltz. One official remarked that Zelensky “showed how not to do the ‘Art of the Deal’” when seeking Trump’s support. On February 12, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent met with Zelensky in Kyiv to offer a proposal granting the U.S. access to Ukraine’s mineral rights in exchange for de facto American protection. Trump later described Zelensky as “rude” for delaying the meeting because he had slept in. Two days later, at the Munich Security Conference, Vance and Rubio pressed Zelensky to approve the deal, only for him to respond that he lacked the authority to do so unilaterally without parliamentary approval. Then, on February 15, Zelensky publicly rejected the proposal at the conference, calling it “not in the interests of a sovereign Ukraine,” a stark contrast to his more optimistic remarks on social media the day before. The situation worsened on February 18 when Zelensky criticized peace talks held in Saudi Arabia between U.S. officials and Russian negotiators, saying Ukraine had been excluded. In response, an enraged Trump held a press conference at Mar-a-Lago, where he falsely claimed Zelensky had started the war with Russia and had an approval rating of only four percent. The conflict escalated further on February 19 when Zelensky retaliated, accusing Trump of living in a “disinformation space.” Trump then fired back on Truth Social, mocking Zelensky as a “modestly successful comedian” turned “dictator without elections,” a pointed remark given Trump’s refusal to label Putin a dictator. Vance later expressed his frustration with Zelensky’s actions. “He’s attacking the only reason [Ukraine] exists, publicly, right now. And it’s disgraceful. And it’s not something that is going to move the president of the United States. In fact, it’s going to have the opposite effect,” he told *The National Pulse.* Three administration sources suggested that Vance’s comments were a veiled threat that Trump could withdraw support from Ukraine altogether. From the White House’s perspective, Zelensky had grown too accustomed to the unconditional backing of former President Biden, NATO allies, and positive media coverage. “Zelensky is an actor who committed a common mistake of theater kids: He started to think he’s the character he plays on TV,” said one White House official involved in the negotiations. “Yes, he has been brave and stood up to Russia. But he would be six feet under if it wasn’t for the millions we spent, and he needs to exit stage right with all the drama.” Another official remarked, “We created a monster with Zelensky. And these Trump-deranged Europeans who won’t send troops are giving him terrible advice.” A third added, “In the course of a week, Zelensky rebuffed President Trump’s treasury secretary, his secretary of state, and his vice president, all before moving on to personally insulting President Trump in the press. What did Zelensky think was going to happen?” Despite the animosity, Trump’s team is still negotiating with Zelensky, and a revised mineral-rights deal remains on the table as part of a potential peace agreement. However, the deal itself could prove highly controversial. Based on public and private statements, Trump’s administration appears poised to pressure Zelensky into conceding Crimea, parts of eastern Ukraine, and the Azov Coast in exchange for an end to hostilities. Critics have likened the U.S. insistence on claiming a share of Ukraine’s mineral wealth to a “mafia shakedown,” arguing that Ukraine would be forced to surrender land and resources while gaining little in return. “It’s a sh*t sandwich,” admitted one Trump administration official. “But Ukraine is going to have to eat it because [Trump] has made clear this is no longer our problem.” Based on a report by AXIOS 2025-02-22 So let's break this all down. 'On February 12, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent met with Zelensky in Kyiv to offer a proposal granting the U.S. access to Ukraine’s mineral rights in exchange for de facto American protection.' - As the article itself states, 'Critics have likened the U.S. insistence on claiming a share of Ukraine’s mineral wealth to a “mafia shakedown' because that's exactly what it is. 'Then, on February 15, Zelensky publicly rejected the proposal at the conference, calling it “not in the interests of a sovereign Ukraine,” - Oh look, the leader of ukraine is looking out for Ukraine - what a surprise! 'The conflict escalated further on February 19 when Zelensky retaliated, accusing Trump of living in a “disinformation space.” - Trump has accused him of being a dictator, of having started the war (one of his most bizarre yet) of having a 4% approval rating and interestingly, nothing about Putin. Trump absolutely lives in the 'disinformation space'. '“It’s a sh*t sandwich,” admitted one Trump administration official' - it certainly is and the bullying tactics of Trump who is literally reading out of a Russian propaganda manual, and not even involving Ukraine in talks about it's own future (as well as ignoring America's European 'partners') is unprecidented in it's lack of worldwide diplomacy and strong-man delusions. The Art of the Deal? Isn't page 1 that you don't reveal your hand BEFORE you start negotiations, yet here we have Trump doing exactly that and toddying to Putin who he hasn't criticised even once during all of this. He calls Zelensky a dictator when there's a VERY obvious one involved in all of this. And before all you Trump fan-boys jump in, let's imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. Let's just imagine it was America that was agressively invaded instead of the Ukraine and the 'peace' negotiations mean America has to give up Hawaii, Florida and Texas as well as all it's mineral rights. How would you all feel about that? No one wants the war in Ukraine to continue but Zelensky is completely justified in his criticism of Trump. 3 1
johnnybangkok Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 hours ago, Social Media said: Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has reportedly frustrated Donald Trump so much during ongoing peace negotiations with Russia that the former U.S. president nearly withdrew American military support for Ukraine, according to three U.S. officials familiar with the discussions. The friction between Trump and Zelensky escalated into a heated exchange that alarmed European allies, who fear the consequences of emboldening Russian President Vladimir Putin. “President Trump is obviously very frustrated right now with President Zelensky,” National Security Advisor Mike Waltz stated during a White House press briefing. The relationship between the two leaders has been uneasy since Trump’s first impeachment in 2019, which stemmed from his efforts to condition U.S. military aid on Zelensky’s willingness to investigate Joe Biden’s son and his connections to a Ukrainian gas company. Now, as Trump attempts to implement his promise of a swift resolution to the Russia-Ukraine war, he is finding it more difficult than expected. According to six administration officials, Zelensky made five key missteps over the past nine days that irritated Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Waltz. One official remarked that Zelensky “showed how not to do the ‘Art of the Deal’” when seeking Trump’s support. On February 12, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent met with Zelensky in Kyiv to offer a proposal granting the U.S. access to Ukraine’s mineral rights in exchange for de facto American protection. Trump later described Zelensky as “rude” for delaying the meeting because he had slept in. Two days later, at the Munich Security Conference, Vance and Rubio pressed Zelensky to approve the deal, only for him to respond that he lacked the authority to do so unilaterally without parliamentary approval. Then, on February 15, Zelensky publicly rejected the proposal at the conference, calling it “not in the interests of a sovereign Ukraine,” a stark contrast to his more optimistic remarks on social media the day before. The situation worsened on February 18 when Zelensky criticized peace talks held in Saudi Arabia between U.S. officials and Russian negotiators, saying Ukraine had been excluded. In response, an enraged Trump held a press conference at Mar-a-Lago, where he falsely claimed Zelensky had started the war with Russia and had an approval rating of only four percent. The conflict escalated further on February 19 when Zelensky retaliated, accusing Trump of living in a “disinformation space.” Trump then fired back on Truth Social, mocking Zelensky as a “modestly successful comedian” turned “dictator without elections,” a pointed remark given Trump’s refusal to label Putin a dictator. Vance later expressed his frustration with Zelensky’s actions. “He’s attacking the only reason [Ukraine] exists, publicly, right now. And it’s disgraceful. And it’s not something that is going to move the president of the United States. In fact, it’s going to have the opposite effect,” he told *The National Pulse.* Three administration sources suggested that Vance’s comments were a veiled threat that Trump could withdraw support from Ukraine altogether. From the White House’s perspective, Zelensky had grown too accustomed to the unconditional backing of former President Biden, NATO allies, and positive media coverage. “Zelensky is an actor who committed a common mistake of theater kids: He started to think he’s the character he plays on TV,” said one White House official involved in the negotiations. “Yes, he has been brave and stood up to Russia. But he would be six feet under if it wasn’t for the millions we spent, and he needs to exit stage right with all the drama.” Another official remarked, “We created a monster with Zelensky. And these Trump-deranged Europeans who won’t send troops are giving him terrible advice.” A third added, “In the course of a week, Zelensky rebuffed President Trump’s treasury secretary, his secretary of state, and his vice president, all before moving on to personally insulting President Trump in the press. What did Zelensky think was going to happen?” Despite the animosity, Trump’s team is still negotiating with Zelensky, and a revised mineral-rights deal remains on the table as part of a potential peace agreement. However, the deal itself could prove highly controversial. Based on public and private statements, Trump’s administration appears poised to pressure Zelensky into conceding Crimea, parts of eastern Ukraine, and the Azov Coast in exchange for an end to hostilities. Critics have likened the U.S. insistence on claiming a share of Ukraine’s mineral wealth to a “mafia shakedown,” arguing that Ukraine would be forced to surrender land and resources while gaining little in return. “It’s a sh*t sandwich,” admitted one Trump administration official. “But Ukraine is going to have to eat it because [Trump] has made clear this is no longer our problem.” Based on a report by AXIOS 2025-02-22 Duplicate
johnnybangkok Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 hours ago, Social Media said: Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has reportedly frustrated Donald Trump so much during ongoing peace negotiations with Russia that the former U.S. president nearly withdrew American military support for Ukraine, according to three U.S. officials familiar with the discussions. The friction between Trump and Zelensky escalated into a heated exchange that alarmed European allies, who fear the consequences of emboldening Russian President Vladimir Putin. “President Trump is obviously very frustrated right now with President Zelensky,” National Security Advisor Mike Waltz stated during a White House press briefing. The relationship between the two leaders has been uneasy since Trump’s first impeachment in 2019, which stemmed from his efforts to condition U.S. military aid on Zelensky’s willingness to investigate Joe Biden’s son and his connections to a Ukrainian gas company. Now, as Trump attempts to implement his promise of a swift resolution to the Russia-Ukraine war, he is finding it more difficult than expected. According to six administration officials, Zelensky made five key missteps over the past nine days that irritated Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Waltz. One official remarked that Zelensky “showed how not to do the ‘Art of the Deal’” when seeking Trump’s support. On February 12, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent met with Zelensky in Kyiv to offer a proposal granting the U.S. access to Ukraine’s mineral rights in exchange for de facto American protection. Trump later described Zelensky as “rude” for delaying the meeting because he had slept in. Two days later, at the Munich Security Conference, Vance and Rubio pressed Zelensky to approve the deal, only for him to respond that he lacked the authority to do so unilaterally without parliamentary approval. Then, on February 15, Zelensky publicly rejected the proposal at the conference, calling it “not in the interests of a sovereign Ukraine,” a stark contrast to his more optimistic remarks on social media the day before. The situation worsened on February 18 when Zelensky criticized peace talks held in Saudi Arabia between U.S. officials and Russian negotiators, saying Ukraine had been excluded. In response, an enraged Trump held a press conference at Mar-a-Lago, where he falsely claimed Zelensky had started the war with Russia and had an approval rating of only four percent. The conflict escalated further on February 19 when Zelensky retaliated, accusing Trump of living in a “disinformation space.” Trump then fired back on Truth Social, mocking Zelensky as a “modestly successful comedian” turned “dictator without elections,” a pointed remark given Trump’s refusal to label Putin a dictator. Vance later expressed his frustration with Zelensky’s actions. “He’s attacking the only reason [Ukraine] exists, publicly, right now. And it’s disgraceful. And it’s not something that is going to move the president of the United States. In fact, it’s going to have the opposite effect,” he told *The National Pulse.* Three administration sources suggested that Vance’s comments were a veiled threat that Trump could withdraw support from Ukraine altogether. From the White House’s perspective, Zelensky had grown too accustomed to the unconditional backing of former President Biden, NATO allies, and positive media coverage. “Zelensky is an actor who committed a common mistake of theater kids: He started to think he’s the character he plays on TV,” said one White House official involved in the negotiations. “Yes, he has been brave and stood up to Russia. But he would be six feet under if it wasn’t for the millions we spent, and he needs to exit stage right with all the drama.” Another official remarked, “We created a monster with Zelensky. And these Trump-deranged Europeans who won’t send troops are giving him terrible advice.” A third added, “In the course of a week, Zelensky rebuffed President Trump’s treasury secretary, his secretary of state, and his vice president, all before moving on to personally insulting President Trump in the press. What did Zelensky think was going to happen?” Despite the animosity, Trump’s team is still negotiating with Zelensky, and a revised mineral-rights deal remains on the table as part of a potential peace agreement. However, the deal itself could prove highly controversial. Based on public and private statements, Trump’s administration appears poised to pressure Zelensky into conceding Crimea, parts of eastern Ukraine, and the Azov Coast in exchange for an end to hostilities. Critics have likened the U.S. insistence on claiming a share of Ukraine’s mineral wealth to a “mafia shakedown,” arguing that Ukraine would be forced to surrender land and resources while gaining little in return. “It’s a sh*t sandwich,” admitted one Trump administration official. “But Ukraine is going to have to eat it because [Trump] has made clear this is no longer our problem.” Based on a report by AXIOS 2025-02-22 Duplicate
Popular Post frank83628 Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Dionigi said: According to the US department of state: How much aid has the US given to Ukraine? To date, we have provided $65.9 billion in military assistance since Russia launched its premeditated, unprovoked, and brutal full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, and approximately $69.2 billion in military assistance since Russia's initial invasion of Ukraine in 2014 The website shows an enormous list of military equipment how is this being siphoned off? Unless you think that Ukraine are selling it It wasnt a full scale invasion of Ukraine, it was targetted on a specific area. 1 1 3
SiSePuede419 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Trump fires Gen. Charles Q. Brown as chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other senior officers Did he refuse to hold up a little vial of white powder and shake it while lecturing us about not letting the smoking gun be a mushroom cloud and accuse Zelensky of possessing WMDs, like W's "Black General" did in Iraq with Saddam? "Get him out of here" -- The King 😄 1 1
Popular Post SiSePuede419 Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 16 minutes ago, frank83628 said: It wasnt a full scale invasion of Ukraine, it was targetted on a specific area. It wasn't a full scale terrorist attack, they focused on only murdering people in a small area. Thank goodness! I was confused about who was wrong there... Thanks for clearing that up. 😂 1 2 1
Popular Post Geir Rasch Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 6 hours ago, willip said: Stop all aid.!make the comedian suffer. He's corrupt and so is Ukraine. He's gone unchecked for years. Billions has been siphoned by him. Stand strong Trump. Take no <deleted>. The west should keep out. I'm English but I don't agree with supporting zelensky. Stop the open checkbook!!!!! Another Trump supporter idiot. They are a disgrace to humanity. 2 2 1
frank83628 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 27 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: It wasn't a full scale terrorist attack, they focused on only murdering people in a small area. Thank goodness! I was confused about who was wrong there... Thanks for clearing that up. 😂 You should read up on who was being killed in donbass Youre just confused in general 1 1
Popular Post stevenl Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Posted 8 hours ago 52 minutes ago, frank83628 said: It wasnt a full scale invasion of Ukraine, it was targetted on a specific area. Like Kyiv you mean? Codswallop. 3
frank83628 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, stevenl said: Like Kyiv you mean? Codswallop. Codswallop you fell for by the media 1
Popular Post SiSePuede419 Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Posted 8 hours ago 53 minutes ago, frank83628 said: You should read up on who was being killed in donbass OK, will do! The conflict in Donbass, Ukraine began after Russia stole Crimea and separatist groups funded by Russia declared "independence" in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions and attacked the Ukrainian military. Done. 😄 1 1 2 2 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, Thingamabob said: So, kindly tell us where the money has gone (assuming you care). The money isn't gone! Zelinsky was saying that he never saw most of the money in Ukraine BECAUSE it was spent in the US. He never said it was missing. Only Russian propagandists such as Trump are distorting this reality to imply Zelinsky has stolen the money. I'm sorry that both you and the U.S. president are so easily suckered by the Russian dictator's talking points. Sad. 2 1 1
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Geir Rasch said: Another Trump supporter idiot. They are a disgrace to humanity. They are the minority. Just like their dear leader whose approval rating is tanking fast. 1 2
Autocan Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago What's the over-under of the man from Kiev who used to play a piano with his dingdong staying President till the end of the month? How about staying alive? Don't they teach not to bite the hand that feeds you at comedy school? 1 1
Thingamabob Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The money isn't gone! Zelinsky was saying that he never saw most of the money in Ukraine BECAUSE it was spent in the US. He never said it was missing. Only Russian propagandists such as Trump are distorting this reality to imply Zelinsky has stolen the money. I'm sorry that both you and the U.S. president are so easily suckered by the Russian dictator's talking points. Sad. Delusional and naive. Zelensky (note the correct spelling, although to be even more correct it would read Zelenskyy, 'said he never saw most of the money'. Yes, he is quoted as having said that. It was a statement which hardly gave reassurance to those seeking it. Bear in mind that Ukrainian politics has been deeply mired in corruption for many years. 1
Popular Post candide Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, Thingamabob said: A lot of pre-negotiation posturing going on. Meantime, it would be helpful if Zelensky would explain where the money has gone. So far the USA has contributed USD 150 billion approx to the war effort, much of it un-accounted for. Much of it un-accounted for! More lame propaganda! on top of it 70% has been spent in the U.S. and sent to Ukraine. 2 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Delusional and naive. Zelensky (note the correct spelling, although to be even more correct it would read Zelenskyy, 'said he never saw most of the money'. Yes, he is quoted as having said that. It was a statement which hardly gave reassurance to those seeking it. Bear in mind that Ukrainian politics has been deeply mired in corruption for many years. You're wrong. If you did a tiny amount of research you would know that he meant that most of the money was spent in the U.S. So when fascist Putin lover Trump cites an inflated figure of aid to Ukraine and twists Zelinsky's words to imply that the money was lost, just don't believe Trump. He lies about EVERYTHING! 2 1
Jingthing Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Autocan said: What's the over-under of the man from Kiev who used to play a piano with his dingdong staying President till the end of the month? How about staying alive? Don't they teach not to bite the hand that feeds you at comedy school? Evil post. 1
Eric Loh Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Autocan said: What's the over-under of the man from Kiev who used to play a piano with his dingdong staying President till the end of the month? How about staying alive? Don't they teach not to bite the hand that feeds you at comedy school? Fun facts. USA military aids of approx $180 B ( not $360 lie from Trump) is smaller than the military and humanitarian aids from European allies. Ukraine spend $120B of their own money to fight the Russian invasion. Get educated and don’t depend on Fox’s propaganda misinformation. 1
Popular Post Dionigi Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, frank83628 said: It wasnt a full scale invasion of Ukraine, it was targetted on a specific area. putinwas quoted as saying he would take Kiev in 3 days. That sounds like an invasion that has not quite gone to plan 1 2 1
Thingamabob Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Jingthing said: You're wrong. If you did a tiny amount of research you would know that he meant that most of the money was spent in the U.S. So when fascist Putin lover Trump cites an inflated figure of aid to Ukraine and twists Zelinsky's words to imply that the money was lost, just don't believe Trump. He lies about EVERYTHING! We shall see in due course. Meantime, have a nice day. 1 2
Jingthing Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: We shall see in due course. Meantime, have a nice day. Willful ignorance is very annoying. 1 1
anandra Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago well done Zelenski, middle finger in red hair monkey mouth 1
newbee2022 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Hakuna Matata said: Zelensky's birth certificate shows the newborn baby's name as VLADIMIR Did he change his name later? Show me his COB, please.😳 1
anandra Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Dionigi said: putinwas quoted as saying he would take Kiev in 3 days. That sounds like an invasion that has not quite gone to plan and after that the Ukrainians entered russki pigs land, Kursk province, well done poo tin 1
Thingamabob Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Willful ignorance is very annoying. Indeed it is. 1
anandra Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Show me his COB, please.😳 what is funny the US has been hated by most countries in the world, now will get more and more haters, nice one 50 % of American zombi voters 1
anandra Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, frank83628 said: It wasnt a full scale invasion of Ukraine, it was targetted on a specific area. the US pigs robbed Ukraine, stole their nukes, so red clown should shut up, poo tins new clown, who put the US on the knees in front of KGB boss, America on the knees, lick pootins shoes, unbelievable 1
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