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11 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So why the dickens was Hillary selling our uranium to our enemy? Another charge she can face

 

I live in a world where there's more than friends and foes.

Posted
2 hours ago, uncletiger said:

According to the Daily Mail, the deal is done. Zelensky has surrendered and granted mineral rights to the US.  I'm sure he's getting a nice retirement package somewhere for his cooperation.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html

 

Interestingly, America granting Ukraine a "security shield" would seem to indicate America is going to be withdrawing from NATO, because I don't see any other context in which Russia would accept this.

 

They'll accept it in return for keeping the Donbass as it will be labelled the Tri-party security act or something stupid like that. And the USA will give Russia a guarantee that UKr forces won't attack. Wait and see, these are the weasel moves of old men after wars. Putin can then crow "no NATO in Ukraine. 

 

Weasel moves of old men after the war? 

 

Did we Allies not set out to defeat Germany and free Europe during WW2? Then walked away leaving half of Europe behind the Iron Curtain as we judged it wasn't worth charging into the Red Army to free Poland et al? 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Dcheech said:

 

 



Fascinating what festers in the fevered imaginations of right wing brain pans. Its like you believe the US gave Zelensky a big bag a cash or something.

 

Military aid is basically credits to purchase US equipment, or at least 60 to 75 percent of the total given would be this way. In truth it is US taxpayer money directly given to US business.   Now with Ukraine, they would be buying other needed parts and equipment from other Euro countries & and with the remainder, to keep things running. This is how military aid has always been. This is how USAID is too. You think they pass out cash to the starving. Or US farmers give big sacks of wheat or rice to the starving third world out of the kindness of their hearts?!  :biggrin: They a re paid for it. US taxpayer money paid to US farmers or Business. The shipped OS and distributed.   

Ok, back to the sanctimonious handwringing, howling, & gnashing of teeth.


 

 

Only a fool would think this guy doesn't do deals on the side. The mind of a lefty.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

They'll accept it in return for keeping the Donbass as it will be labelled the Tri-party security act or something stupid like that. And the USA will give Russia a guarantee that UKr forces won't attack. Wait and see, these are the weasel moves of old men after wars. Putin can then crow "no NATO in Ukraine. 

 

Weasel moves of old men after the war? 

 

Did we Allies not set out to defeat Germany and free Europe during WW2? Then walked away leaving half of Europe behind the Iron Curtain as we judged it wasn't worth charging into the Red Army to free Poland et al? 

Patton had the right idea, but was overruled by Washington. He could see further ahead than most.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Patton had the right idea, but was overruled by Washington. He could see further ahead than most.

I’m sure the world wanted more war after the defeat of Germany. 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Dcheech said:


That is why AID programs, whether humanitarian, military or whatever give/try to give  credits for 60 to 75 per cent of the projected program/budget. Eliminates as much corruption as possible. Again one should REALLY think of it as its taxpayer aid to US business, military industrial complex and farmers, as a foreign countries. 

However that is likely far too leftist an idea for your brain pan to handle.  :biggrin:
 

Ranked one of the most corrupt nations in the world. 

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Ranked one of the most corrupt nations in the world. 

 

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Good thing then that the money and orders stayed in the US.

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Posted
5 hours ago, bannork said:

Ukraine will fight on with European backing against the murderous Putin who has killed so many .Trump and his fellow appeasers should be eternally grateful to Zelensky because Ukraine has crippled the Russian army without one American soldier losing his life.

Long live Ukraine, three heroic years of fighting a blood thirsty autocrat.

Down with American appeasers, cowards the lot.

 

I stand for the latest cause. Did you update your Facebook with the Ukraine flag too ?

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Posted
5 hours ago, stevenl said:

Far less than 200 billion was spent.

The money spent went straight to US arms manufacturers.

Which may have made some crony companies rich, but that US taxpayers paid for. 

Posted
4 hours ago, stevenl said:

In the geo political area, US and Europe are, or maybe were, in general aligned. Russia and China are on the other side. So yes, Russia was an opponent and is much weaker now than 3 years ago.

What happened to the Russian reset, and the ‘80s calling and wanting their foreign policy back?

Posted
52 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Do they pay you to parrot propaganda?

So he is poor while Ukraine is one of the most corrupt nations around. How does that work?

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Posted
25 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Good thing then that the money and orders stayed in the US.

On February 2, President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said he had only received $75 billion

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Posted
4 hours ago, bannork said:

lol. Russia said they would be in Kiev in three days, three years ago.

 

lol. Four months ago Harris said she would be in the White House today. 

 

Imagine Walz taking in Berlin and Harris negotiating with Putin. Just keep the vodka flowing,,,,

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1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

 

 

You can bet China is eyeing eastern Siberia quite covetously. The pseudo-partnership may not last long. Xi holds all the cards.

 

I hope China makes a move on Siberia.

Posted
3 hours ago, uncletiger said:

According to the Daily Mail, the deal is done. Zelensky has surrendered and granted mineral rights to the US.  I'm sure he's getting a nice retirement package somewhere for his cooperation.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html

 

Interestingly, America granting Ukraine a "security shield" would seem to indicate America is going to be withdrawing from NATO, because I don't see any other context in which Russia would accept this.

The same mineral rights he was offering during his visit last year whuluke campaigning for Harris?

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