Has Thailand Long Surpassed the West in Terms of Quality of Life?

[UserC923]

The most ridiculous news story I have ever seen in my life.

When Thailand was a dictatorship, it may be true that we Thais were quite wealthy, had large and magnificent houses and 4-5 cars parked in a row. But today, we are very poor. If you look at the big picture, Thailand has never experienced any crisis. So why is the economy in recession?

Thailand's three neighbors have disappeared since Covid, whether it's a depreciation of the currency, war or a decrease in tourists. Why have they survived until now?

This is the reason why most Thais are not interested in democracy.

[DonniePeverley]

I wish the UK would abolish dual citizenship. You would see an end to these type of posts then. 

 

Every Thai would dream of moving to Europe. Remember you are privileged to be able to move abroad, and it's because of the work and finances you were able to achieve in your home country that gave you this privilege to move to Thailand - no need to plop on it. 

[Pouatchee]

4 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

Why are you in Canada?

 

does it matter?

[hotsun]

Anywhere other than the US, i would prefer thailand over

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Thailand is much cheaper but better no. West has too many rules though. Socialism has ruined the west.

West is doomed from self inflicted insanity, IMO. Irrelevant if better or not.

 

At the present time, or at least the recent past when I lived there, better in most ways, except health care. Health care better in the west IF one can get it. Not enough Drs, nurses, hospital beds etc etc.

It would be an improvement for Thailand if they stopped throwing rubbish everywhere and ended the burning pollution.

 

Just not being woke and having feminine women makes them better than the west.

[impulse]

11 hours ago, connda said:

I don't see large encampments of Thais sleeping in the streets of major cities because they can't afford rent.

 

No large encampments, but I walk by a dozen Thai homeless sleeping on storefront stoops on my 1 km walk from the MRT to my usual hotel.  That's at night and right on a main road. Half a dozen are sleeping there even during the day.  No telling how many are sleeping rough where they aren't visible from the road.  They usually have a pile of what I'd consider garbage that they've collected to scrounge through and either resell or recycle.

 

Not to mention the literally hundreds of beggars I pass getting in my 10,000 steps a day in Bangkok.

 

[TedG]

Nope.  Next question. 

[TedG]

58 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Anywhere other than the US, i would prefer thailand over

Why?

[SAFETY FIRST]

13 hours ago, 123Stodg said:

Has Thailand Long Surpassed the West in Terms of Quality of Life? 

Yes. 

 

Sadly so many foreigners coming here want to change Thailand, always moaning and complaining, about stupid things like poor footpaths, monkeys climbing trees for coconuts etc.

If you have a disability or similar and want good footpaths, have a safe holiday, stay in the west DON'T come here. 

 

If you struggle with bloody monkeys climbing trees for coconuts DON'T come here. 

 

These people piss me off, leave Thailand alone, I like it the way it is (was). 😡

 

 

[fredwiggy]

41 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yes. 

 

Sadly so many foreigners coming here want to change Thailand, always moaning and complaining, about stupid things like poor footpaths, monkeys climbing trees for coconuts etc.

If you have a disability or similar and want good footpaths, have a safe holiday, stay in the west DON'T come here. 

 

If you struggle with bloody monkeys climbing trees for coconuts DON'T come here. 

 

These people piss me off, leave Thailand alone, I like it the way it is (was). 😡

 

 

So stop complaining about foreigners if you're so happy here. The country obviously needs changes, as the west did a century ago, Do you actually think younger Thais aren't accepting of western cultures? Look around. Almost everything about this country involves western influence. Take that away and you have farming from day one until you die, without any phones, TV's, computers, cars, trucks, buses, motorbikes, internet, trains, airplanes, military equipment and vehicles, guns, washing machines, dryers, water pumps, most music, especially better music, and a lot of others Thais use to get by daily. including tourism.

 

What you like about the way Thailand was, was western influenced long before you came here. People from the west know how things should improve, not only for them but for locals. 

 

Maybe when you fall into one of the holes in a footpath you'll understand what others are going through, and thinking those with a disability shouldn't come here is cruel. Maybe when it happens to you you'll understand they are people also and deserve everything you have, even if it's harder for them to get around. Lastly, have you seen how the monkeys are treated, making them climb coconut trees? I'm thinking not.

[hotsun]

46 minutes ago, TedG said:

Why?

US is the only non woke west country currently

[GinBoy2]

It's a case of pluses and minuses.

 

Our house in Thailand is without doubt better than our house in the US, although build quality and longevity might be questionable.

 

Health care, well my US healthcare is pretty comprehensive, whereas my Thai insurance after becoming ridiculously expensive dropped me.

 

I 'could rely on Government hospitals, but outside BKK go in to one them, you basically come out in a box, so I'll stick with my US hospital

 

Food is way cheaper in Thailand and is a real plus

 

Utilities, electricity are about the same, although my electric doesn't go off at the first clap of thunder as it does in Thailand

 

My internet little more expensive than I pay in Thailand, but a heck more reliable for slightly better service

 

Hmm and VPN, yeah you need that in Thailand because God forbid you utter anything that could get you in 112 trouble!

 

I'll tolerate the nonsense on Fox News not to have to worry about that!

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, UserC923 said:

How can healthcare be better when neighbors are getting healthcare and not paying billions in debt?

I have no idea what your question is. Please rewrite the post explaining what you are talking about.

[baansgr]

13 hours ago, sidjameson said:

Western countries are trillions, yes trillions in debt but continue to pay good pensions. Of course Thailand's much better value than back home. 

Try telling a Thai earning a typical 10k to 20k bht salary Thailand has a better quality of life!

Quality of life is not measured in financial terms 

[thaibeachlovers]

44 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

without any phones, TV's, computers, cars, trucks, buses, motorbikes, internet, trains, airplanes, military equipment and vehicles, guns,

without any mobile phones, TV's, computers,......., internet, military equipment and......., guns,

 

I grew up without mobile phones, tv, computers, internet and we were happier people back then.

We'd be far better off without military and guns.

 

We sold our souls for all that <deleted> and we are unhappy for it.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, UserC923 said:

The hospital budget is used to pay off debts for those who come for treatment but do not pay.

That quote is not from me. I don't post anything in Thai writing, which is against forum rules.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, sidjameson said:

Try telling a Thai earning a typical 10k to 20k bht salary Thailand has a better quality of life!

This forum is usually about OUR viewpoint, not that of a Thai peasant that will obviously not be happy with his income.

It was way better for me than where I am now, not in Thailand.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

without any mobile phones, TV's, computers,......., internet, military equipment and......., guns,

 

I grew up without mobile phones, tv, computers, internet and we were happier people back then.

We'd be far better off without military and guns.

 

We sold our souls for all that <deleted> and we are unhappy for it.

No military you would be living in control by the Romans, or maybe the English, or Aztecs, etc. All you mentioned actually makes people happy, as they're all things which give us more entertainment, which is necessary to combat boredom. True, they do make people lazier, but that's personal choice, as it doesn't make everyone lazy enough to hurt their health. I'm very happy the internet has brought me more music than I could ever have without. Mobile phones are sometimes dangerous in use, but have also saved many lives .An advanced world isn't the problem. It's how people use those advances that could be.

[mikebell]

14 hours ago, 123Stodg said:

Affordability, safety! public services

 

[Harrisfan]

33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

without any mobile phones, TV's, computers,......., internet, military equipment and......., guns,

 

I grew up without mobile phones, tv, computers, internet and we were happier people back then.

We'd be far better off without military and guns.

 

We sold our souls for all that <deleted> and we are unhappy for it.

Yes tech has ruined humans. Obesity, laziness. Towns are becoming clowns of each other.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Maybe when you fall into one of the holes in a footpath you'll understand what others are going through

I haven't fallen into a hole in the last 20 years I've been living here. 

 

I can understand if you are an incompetent person, not looking where you are going or want to blame others for your mishaps. 

Seems to be the norm these days, useless people blaming others. 

 

 

 

[Robert_Smith]

Thailand will never catch up to the west in terms of economic/social development.

They can't even get democracy right!

 

Anyone who thinks that they will eventually be on par with the west in any way, shape or form is dreaming..

 

Just take a look at their public education system..

Appalling. 

 

regards,

bob.

[Harrisfan]

People living in 1957 were happier than people are today – and happiness levels have not reached those levels in the intervening 60 years, according to research.

 

https://www.mentalhealthtoday.co.uk/people-were-happier-in-1957-than-today-according-to-research

[Harrisfan]

All that 1960 to 1980 music made people less happy. Tech the same.

 

A simple life makes people happy.

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, Robert_Smith said:

Thailand will never catch up to the west in terms of economic/social development.

They can't even get democracy right!

 

Anyone who thinks that they will eventually be on par with the west in any, shape or form is dreaming..

 

regards,

bob.

Why the hell are you in Thailand then?

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I haven't fallen into a hole in the last 20 years I've been living here. 

 

I can understand if you are an incompetent person, not looking where you are going or want to blame others for your mishaps. 

Seems to be the norm these days, useless people blaming others. 

 

 

 

Yes, maybe you should curtail that activity, as it's getting old seeing you trash foreigners and acting the brown noser, living here so long and being blind to what goes on. Falling into a hole in the dark, which happens here, and sidewalks giving away, which also happens, is the fault of the maintenance department of roads. NYC is a huge major city and I never see or hear of roads crumbling like they do here. Maybe you haven't noticed that most of these mishaps are experienced by locals and not foreigners.

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

All that 1960 to 1980 music made people less happy. Tech the same.

 

A simple life makes people happy.

Most of the best music that's ever come out, especially Rock, R&B and Pop, came out from the 50's through the 80's, so I'm thinking music isn't your forte. Much of what we hear now came from those influences. Ask any major musician now who influenced them and they'll name names from those decades. Technology surely has people much happier, as new things are more easily accessed now than ever before. Simple life has people happy yes, but adding more entertainment increases it.

[SAFETY FIRST]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

 living here so long and being blind to what goes on

Not blind.

 

What goes on is the reason I chose Thailand to be my home, I love its many differences to the west, it's rough around the edges, similar to myself. 

 

I'm getting fed up with people wanting Thailand to be like the west. 

I don't want it to be the same s5it hole I left behind. 

 

 

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, maybe you should curtail that activity, as it's getting old seeing you trash foreigners and acting the brown noser, living here so long and being blind to what goes on. Falling into a hole in the dark, which happens here, and sidewalks giving away, which also happens, is the fault of the maintenance department of roads. NYC is a huge major city and I never see or hear of roads crumbling like they do here. Maybe you haven't noticed that most of these mishaps are experienced by locals and not foreigners.

Locals are 70m, farangs are 400,000. That would be why.

[BritManToo]

15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, maybe you should curtail that activity, as it's getting old seeing you trash foreigners and acting the brown noser, living here so long and being blind to what goes on. Falling into a hole in the dark, which happens here, and sidewalks giving away, which also happens, is the fault of the maintenance department of roads. NYC is a huge major city and I never see or hear of roads crumbling like they do here. Maybe you haven't noticed that most of these mishaps are experienced by locals and not foreigners.

Two in the last 3 months .........