Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why is it that you just support the people fighting against the Jewish state ?

Because its full of Jews.

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Yes. They are trained form childhood to hate Jews. Its in their religion.

It goes both ways over there. They hate each other.

[CG1 Blue]

Why aren't students protesting about Hamas?

If Palestinians are being forcibly ruled by Hamas, and if Palestinians don't support Hamas, where is the outrage about that?

 

Unless of course the protestors are ok with Hamas and their human shield tactics, and Hamas' desire to wipe Israel off the map. 

[Yagoda]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

It goes both ways over there. They hate each other.

Show me any educational material that teaches Israeli children to hate Palestinians.

 

Another Jew hating lie from you.

[MalcolmB]

On 3/12/2025 at 5:05 AM, Bkk Brian said:

He's after scum like this, nothing to do with First Amendment

 

 

I havent seen that. Thanks.

It reminds me of the Jan 6 attack on the capitol. 
Was anyone killed?

 

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

It reminds me of the Jan 6 attack on the capitol. 

Are you claiming that the Jan 6 protesters were Jew hating terrorist supporters?

[MalcolmB]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Show me any educational material that teaches Israeli children to hate Palestinians.

 

Another Jew hating lie from you.

Here 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Are you claiming that the Jan 6 protesters were Jew hating terrorist supporters?

No.

i said it reminded me of the way Americans protest.

It is really violent.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Here 

 

 

You claim Israeli children are taught to hate Palestinians and give us some 1 hour video about American Jews.

 

Wrong country

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

i said it reminded me of the way Americans protest.

We dont need water cannon here, like you do in Europe

[connda]

Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

What - that the First Amendment is dead?

I may agree with the Trump administration on a number of their agendas, but urinating on the First Amendment of the Constitution to appease Israel isn't one of them.  Americans can espouse negative views about Israelis as the day is long, just like they can espouse negative views of Russians, Canadians, Chinese, French, South Americans and anyone else in this world.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution. So, the Trump administration's acts to chill the speech of those living in the US legally, citizens or legal aliens, won't hold up to legal challenges taken to the SCOTUS.  And if they do?  That just drove a stake through the heart of the Constitution and the US essentially becomes a totalitarian regime.  Israeli's are not sacrosanct. And at least in the United States of American that I grew up in - they can be criticized like any other nation or state.

[MalcolmB]

14 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why aren't students protesting about Hamas?

If Palestinians are being forcibly ruled by Hamas, and if Palestinians don't support Hamas, where is the outrage about that?

 

Unless of course the protestors are ok with Hamas and their human shield tactics, and Hamas' desire to wipe Israel off the map. 

Might be because of the tens of thousands of women and children killed and injured? 
Might be because they have wrecked most houses, businesses etc.?

Or it might be because they have destroyed or nearly destroyed all the hospitals?

Maybe because they cut electricity and water supplies?

Or maybe because they have restricted food and medical supplies?

I think you would find that if Palestinians were doing this to Israel that the students would be protesting about that.

[MalcolmB]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You claim Israeli children are taught to hate Palestinians and give us some 1 hour video about American Jews.

 

Wrong country

Please watch before commenting.

[rudi49jr]

25 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why is it that your fervently support the Palestinian cause and don't support other similar causes ?

   Why is it that you support the Palestinians , but don't support the Rohingyas in Myanmar or the Marsh Arabs or the 5000 of groups of people who want independence ?

     Why is it that you just support the people fighting against the Jewish state ?

You should really stop jumping to conclusions. Who says I don’t support the Rohingya? Or that I don’t support other groups who want independence? Your ‘logic’ doesn’t make any sense.
 

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

What - that the First Amendment is dead?

I may agree with the Trump administration on a number of their agendas, but urinating on the First Amendment of the Constitution to appease Israel isn't one of them.  Americans can espouse negative views about Israelis as the day is long, just like they can espouse negative views of Russians, Canadians, Chinese, French, South Americans and anyone else in this world.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution. So, the Trump administration's acts to chill the speech of those living in the US legally, citizens or legal aliens, won't hold up to legal challenges taken to the SCOTUS.  And if they do?  That just drove a stake through the heart of the Constitution and the US essentially becomes a totalitarian regime.  Israeli's are not sacrosanct. And at least in the United States of American that I grew up in - they can be criticized like any other nation or state.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/342/580/

You are wrong on the law.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

What - that the First Amendment is dead?

I may agree with the Trump administration on a number of their agendas, but urinating on the First Amendment of the Constitution to appease Israel isn't one of them.  Americans can espouse negative views about Israelis as the day is long, just like they can espouse negative views of Russians, Canadians, Chinese, French, South Americans and anyone else in this world.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution. So, the Trump administration's acts to chill the speech of those living in the US legally, citizens or legal aliens, won't hold up to legal challenges taken to the SCOTUS.  And if they do?  That just drove a stake through the heart of the Constitution and the US essentially becomes a totalitarian regime.  Israeli's are not sacrosanct. And at least in the United States of American that I grew up in - they can be criticized like any other nation or state.

 

   The first amendment doesn't mean you can say anything thing you like to anyone anywhere , You still need to abide by the rules and laws of the land 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

You should really stop jumping to conclusions. Who says I don’t support the Rohingya? Or that I don’t support other groups who want independence? Your ‘logic’ doesn’t make any sense.
 

 

   OK, what other groups do you actively support ?

[rudi49jr]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   OK, what other groups do you actively support ?

I thought the topic of this thread was antisemitism, not what other groups I actively support. And by the way, it’s none of your freakin’ business who I do or do not support. 

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Please watch before commenting.

If you have something specific from an educational institution that proves your point show us. You cant.

 

PS, speaking as an American, I despise Gazans and so called Palestinians. They tortured one of our citizens, still hold another, and have cheered American deaths in the past. 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

I thought the topic of this thread was antisemitism, not what other groups I actively support. And by the way, it’s none of your freakin’ business who I do or do not support. 

 

   OK, I would have thought that you would have been delighted to give publicity to the other groups that you support and have an opportunity to publicise their cause .

   Is it because you ONLY give support to the Palestinians ?

      Maybe you could just refresh some posts in other threads where you have given support to other causes ?

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Might be because of the tens of thousands of women and children killed and injured? 
Might be because they have wrecked most houses, businesses etc.?

Or it might be because they have destroyed or nearly destroyed all the hospitals?

Maybe because they cut electricity and water supplies?

Or maybe because they have restricted food and medical supplies?

I think you would find that if Palestinians were doing this to Israel that the students would be protesting about that.

 

   They would be out celebrating,  like they were on Oct 8 th 

[rudi49jr]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   OK, I would have thought that you would have been delighted to give publicity to the other groups that you support and have an opportunity to publicise their cause .

   Is it because you ONLY give support to the Palestinians ?

      Maybe you could just refresh some posts in other threads where you have given support to other causes ?

How old are you? Like, 12? 

[mogandave]

It is encouraging to see such a great percentage of Trump-haters are Hamas supporters. 

 

Unlike the EU, in the US one’s thoughts and speech are protected. But when speech and thoughts lead to action, the actions are not protected. 

 

You are free to speak in unrestricted areas, but you are not free to compel others to listen. 

 

 

[Evil Penevil]

26 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I think you would find that if Palestinians were doing this to Israel that the students would be protesting about that.

 

The pro-Hamas, I mean pro-Palestinian, students did NOT protest when Hamas attacked unarmed Israeli civilians on Oct. 7, killing children and the elderly, burning houses,  raping women, etc.  On the contrary, many  pro-Palestinians praised or at least excused the attacks as "resistance.".

 

And as @Nick Carter icp noted, there are several conflicts in the world involving disputes over territory that have caused more death, destruction and displacement than the Gaza war.  Millions have died in Sudan and the Congo and tens of millions have been displaced, but the level of protest in the West is miniscule compared with anti-Israel protests.  When was the last time you heard of a protest against civil war  and the massacre of civilians in Sudan or elsewhere in Africa?

[riclag]

On 3/12/2025 at 5:01 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Wrong topic, nothing about AI in this OP, if you went to the right one and actually read it, you would also see your comments are nonsense.

Thats what I like about your comments!

To the point, direct and usually based in common sense .

[ifmu]

does anyone have a copy of this students speech ?  link me 

.... this is trump injecting his opinion into something .... i very much distrust trump and his opinions so i need to see that he is referring to in regards to the student only 

 

oh and whos name is on this post  ....?

[connda]

14 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

What - that the First Amendment is dead?

I may agree with the Trump administration on a number of their agendas, but urinating on the First Amendment of the Constitution to appease Israel isn't one of them.  Americans can espouse negative views about Israelis as the day is long, just like they can espouse negative views of Russians, Canadians, Chinese, French, South Americans and anyone else in this world.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution. So, the Trump administration's acts to chill the speech of those living in the US legally, citizens or legal aliens, won't hold up to legal challenges taken to the SCOTUS.  And if they do?  That just drove a stake through the heart of the Constitution and the US essentially becomes a totalitarian regime.  Israeli's are not sacrosanct. And at least in the United States of American that I grew up in - they can be criticized like any other nation or state.

This is the reality of the First Amendment protections afforded to foreign student's residing in the US.  The First Amendment protects free speech for everyone physically present in the U.S., not just citizens and SCOTUS precedents supports this:
Bridges v. Wixon (1945) established that resident aliens enjoy First Amendment rights, stating that "freedom of speech and of press is accorded aliens residing in this country."

United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez (1990) clarified that constitutional protections, including the First Amendment, apply to non-citizens within U.S. borders, though the scope can differ based on context (e.g., immigration proceedings vs. criminal law).

There are attempts to codify what "antisemitism" is in the US. The bill, H.R. 6090 attempts to codify the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of "antisemitism" into Title VI enforcement - which only affects universities.  This bill stalled in the US Senate and has not been enacted into law.  Equating protests of Israeli polices doesn't meet the standards of being "hate crimes" or "discrimination," and although it may meet the definition of "antisemitism" as per the IHRA, it is not against US Federal Law.  Chilling speech in the United States by calling in antisemitism will be a slippery slope that would find it's way to the Supreme Court of the United States.

[mogandave]

This is not a free speech issue. People can say and think what they like. But:

 

Hamas is an enemy of the US. Supporting them materially is illegal. 

 

Harassing other people is illegal. 

 

Barring students from classes is illegal.

 

Protesting and or “camping” in restricted areas is illegal. 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, connda said:

  Equating protests of Israeli polices doesn't meet the standards of being "hate crimes" or "discrimination," and although it may meet the definition of "antisemitism" as per the IHRA, it is not against US Federal Law.  

 

   The problem was foreign Muslim students (who were possibly funded by Qatar/Iran) were attacking /abusing American students , Jewish American Students .

    Foreigners carrying out anti semitic attacks on American citizens on campuses

[Evil Penevil]

10 minutes ago, ifmu said:

does anyone have a copy of this students speech ?  link me 

Mahmoud Khalil is not facing deportation because he gave a speech.  He was an active supporter of Hamas and his actions were a threat to Jewish students at Columbia.

 

Trump Is Right to Deport Hamas Supporters

Federal law authorizes denying or revoking the visa of anyone who supports terrorist activity.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/trump-deport-hamas-supporters-visa-law