Popular Post Yagoda Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 Have you noticed the trend in the US and EU where the parties on the Left scream Russia Russia Russia at every turn, and ignore China? Lets see... Russia: an authoritarian dictatorship of no particular ideology other than Great Russia Nationalism and Orthodoxy. A third world pestiferous country with a worthless military, primitive economy and nukes. Highly aggressive and revanchist. Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Russia: A communist dictatorship, heavily industrialized, giant military with nukes, highly aggressive and revanchist and expansionist to boot, racist and authoritarian political and philosophical foundations.. Blatantly flouts international law, threatens war, murders and imprisons its own people (as Socialists do). Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Their main enemy is the USA So why always the hate towards Russia and not China? Sympathetic to Socialism? Hatred of the USA? Brainwashing? 2 1 1 6
Popular Post transam Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 How do you know what I or anyone thinks about China.......? 🤔 Are you guessing......? Russia has invaded a neighbour, that is enough for anyone not to like the Putin regime.............🤔 3 6 1 1 3
Popular Post jas007 Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 1 minute ago, Yagoda said: Have you noticed the trend in the US and EU where the parties on the Left scream Russia Russia Russia at every turn, and ignore China? Lets see... Russia: an authoritarian dictatorship of no particular ideology other than Great Russia Nationalism and Orthodoxy. A third world pestiferous country with a worthless military, primitive economy and nukes. Highly aggressive and revanchist. Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Russia: A communist dictatorship, heavily industrialized, giant military with nukes, highly aggressive and revanchist and expansionist to boot, racist and authoritarian political and philosophical foundations.. Blatantly flouts international law, threatens war, murders and imprisons its own people (as Socialists do). Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Their main enemy is the USA So why always the hate towards Russia and not China? Sympathetic to Socialism? Hatred of the USA? Brainwashing? Chalk it up to the long term effects of a massive public brainwashing campaign, financed by the USA. It's been going on for years, in one form or another. Most people actually believe the nonsense. Propaganda works very very well. The second I heard that Hillary blamed her election loss on "Russian Collusion," that told me everything I needed to know. How much did they spend on the Mueller investigation? Those people were so convinced they were invincible, they got 51 intelligence officers to sign onto their nonsense scheme. 2 1 1 1 6
Popular Post Walker88 Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 No, it has nothing to do with "Socialism", which I think you don't understand anyway, as you forever label non-MAGAs as "socialist", when that has nothing to do with anything, except your own need to attack. At least you're not as bad as the little guy always tossing in "Marxist" and "Stalinist", which indicates a willful ignorance beyond the pale. Of course the invasion of Ukraine is the obvious negative, but MAGAs buy their messiah's nonsense that "dictator" Zelenskyy started it. Frankly, maybe it's the food. All Russian food sucks, while there are some tasty different cuisines from China (though not Cantonese, which is terribly bland). You can always tell how bad a national cuisine is when you go into an area and see no restaurant advertising its cuisine. "Chinese" restaurants (a very broad term) are in every major city and town in the world, while outside of Russia, maybe you can find some Russki places in Pattaya or Phuket or Brighton Beach, but that's about it. 2 3 1 4 1 1
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 Russia have invaded another country and slaughtering the people, women and children. So they are on my dislike list. Same with Israel and the USA who are supplying the weapons to flatten Gaza. And the USA was bombing Yemen last week also. Chinese are not killing people, women and children, in foreign countries. I have no issue with the Chinese. A peaceful nation who have not been in a war since the 1970s. Nice people and some beautiful women. 3 1 1 3 3
Popular Post Dan O Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Have you noticed the trend in the US and EU where the parties on the Left scream Russia Russia Russia at every turn, and ignore China? Lets see... Russia: an authoritarian dictatorship of no particular ideology other than Great Russia Nationalism and Orthodoxy. A third world pestiferous country with a worthless military, primitive economy and nukes. Highly aggressive and revanchist. Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Russia: A communist dictatorship, heavily industrialized, giant military with nukes, highly aggressive and revanchist and expansionist to boot, racist and authoritarian political and philosophical foundations.. Blatantly flouts international law, threatens war, murders and imprisons its own people (as Socialists do). Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Their main enemy is the USA So why always the hate towards Russia and not China? Sympathetic to Socialism? Hatred of the USA? Brainwashing? Probably because their outward physical aggression is only toward other Asian nations that border China. 1 3 1
Yagoda Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, Dan O said: Probably because their outward physical aggression is only toward other Asian nations that border China. That seems sort of geopolitically short sighted. 1
Popular Post Hamus Yaigh Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 32 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Have you noticed the trend in the US and EU where the parties on the Left scream Russia Russia Russia at every turn, and ignore China? Lets see... Russia: an authoritarian dictatorship of no particular ideology other than Great Russia Nationalism and Orthodoxy. A third world pestiferous country with a worthless military, primitive economy and nukes. Highly aggressive and revanchist. Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Russia: A communist dictatorship, heavily industrialized, giant military with nukes, highly aggressive and revanchist and expansionist to boot, racist and authoritarian political and philosophical foundations.. Blatantly flouts international law, threatens war, murders and imprisons its own people (as Socialists do). Always interfering and poking around other countrys business. Their main enemy is the USA So why always the hate towards Russia and not China? Sympathetic to Socialism? Hatred of the USA? Brainwashing? Did you actually think this out for yourself, or just copied some dodgy AI troller app output and not even read it? None of your points seem like an advert to like Russia, the opposite in fact. And BTW, its not lefties screaming, its anyone with an ounce of common sense and decency. 2 2 1 2 7
Popular Post Woke to Sounds Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 Well, I read a book called Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China. (banned in China) That changed my outlook. Lunacy abounded in CCP China, like chopping down all the trees and plucking up all the grass and flowers because it was deemed 'bourgeoisie." Shuttering tea houses too. Just mental. The author is of course persona non grata in China. I suppose the Loony Lefties get off on denying simple pleasures to normal folk. 1 1 1 2
Popular Post BritManToo Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 19 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds said: Lunacy abounded in CCP China, like chopping down all the trees and plucking up all the grass and flowers because it was deemed 'bourgeoisie." Shuttering tea houses too. Just mental. I was in China in 2017, everything seemed very peaceful and relaxed. I walked all over the place on my own, nobody minded. Maybe your book was set in the past. 2 2 1 1 2
scorecard Posted March 17 Posted March 17 16 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds said: Well, I read a book called Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China. (banned in China) That changed my outlook. Lunacy abounded in CCP China, like chopping down all the trees and plucking up all the grass and flowers because it was deemed 'bourgeoisie." Shuttering tea houses too. Just mental. The author is of course persona non grata in China. I suppose the Loony Lefties get off on denying simple pleasures to normal folk. You seem to believe that ',,,,like chopping down all the trees and plucking up all the grass and flowers because it was deemed 'bourgeoisie." Shuttering tea houses too. Just mental....' is 'leftie'. Really. 1 1
Popular Post Yagoda Posted March 17 Author Popular Post Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said: Did you actually think this out for yourself, or just copied some dodgy AI troller app output and not even read it? None of your points seem like an advert to like Russia, the opposite in fact. And BTW, its not lefties screaming, its anyone with an ounce of common sense and decency. Who says I like Russia? In your visceral hatred of Americans and MAGA supporters, you DELIBERATELY twist/ignore what I say and what I have said in the past. Here let me make it clear for you: Russia is scumbag. China is more scumbag because they are powerful. So why all the screaming about non Socialist weak dictator vis a vis Socialist strong one? Im starting to think is the fact that many on the so called "Left" give China a pass. 1 2
Yagoda Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 38 minutes ago, Walker88 said: No, it has nothing to do with "Socialism", which I think you don't understand anyway, as you forever label non-MAGAs as "socialist", I noticed you stayed far away from the topic here postulating that there is no essential philosophical difference between Socialism and National Socialism. Good move on your part 1
Yagoda Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 5 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I was in China in 2017, everything seemed very peaceful and relaxed. I walked all over the place on my own, nobody minded. Maybe your book was set in the past. Cultural Revolution time. Socialism requires enemies at all time. 1 1
Popular Post Dan O Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 25 minutes ago, Yagoda said: That seems sort of geopolitically short sighted. You asked a question and I gave you my opinion which mirrors China actions. Nothing geopolitical or short sighted about it. Plenty of business's and governments are concerned about China's covert action on spying and intellectual property theft but western countries (which I believe you were referring too) and their masses are not impacted as China aggression is toward asian countries that border them. In the long view China is a huge threat militarily as they have stated blatantly on numerous occasions that their long term preparions are war will be with democracy and the USA 1 2
Popular Post scorecard Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I was in China in 2017, everything seemed very peaceful and relaxed. I walked all over the place on my own, nobody minded. Maybe your book was set in the past. Same... been to Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzen, and several other big / medium size Chinese cities many times on organizational projects from 1 week to 3 months. Mostly stayed at 4 star hotels (my choice), lobby / concierge staff always very keen to help, always plenty of English. Never once had any reason to be concerned about safety / security 24/7. Many times local folks (mid ages / high school kids) asked politely, in full English, if I needed any help. Taxi drivers always helpful (often with instant contact to their office). Plenty of polite help at railway stations, in coffee shops etc. (mostly speaking good English.) Very clean streets etc. Good food everywhere... 1 2 2
scorecard Posted March 17 Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, Dan O said: You asked a question and I gave you my opinion which mirrors China actions. Nothing geopolitical or short sighted about it. Plenty of business's and governments are concerned about China's covert action on spying and intellectual property theft but western countries (which I believe you were referring too) and their masses are not impacted as China aggression is toward asian countries that border them. In the long view China is a huge threat militarily as they have stated blatantly on numerous occasions that their long term preparions are war will be with democracy and the USA Please share a link re your last paragraph... 1 1
Yagoda Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, scorecard said: Same... been to Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzen, and several other big / medium size Chinese cities many times on organizational projects from 1 week to 3 months. Mostly stayed at 4 star hotels (my choice), lobby / concierge staff always very keen to help, always plenty of English. Never once had any reason to be concerned about safety / security 24/7. Many times local folks (mid ages / high school kids) asked politely, in full English, if I needed any help. Taxi drivers always helpful (often with instant contact to their office). Plenty of polite help at railway stations, in coffee shops etc. (mostly speaking good English.) Very clean streets etc. Good food everywhere... Potemkin village though. 2
Popular Post LiamB80 Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 My personal experiences with Russians in Thailand haven’t been bad. In all the years I had 1 Russian woman try to cut in line in front of me, thats the only thing i experienced negative from them. Chinese people quite rude and nasty with disgusting hygiene from my experience in Thailand. I do believe China is a paper tiger militarily. Japan has brutalized them throughout history and they now ally with USA and President Trump so we’re happy they’re on our side with a history of being warriors that China just doesn’t have. Chinese are followers not leaders. Ask Africa and Cambodia what they think of Chinese investment in their part of the world. Invasion of a different kind than military. 3 1 1
Yagoda Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 18 minutes ago, Dan O said: In the long view China is a huge threat militarily as they have stated blatantly on numerous occasions that their long term preparions are war will be with democracy and the USA Yet Russia is the boogeyman 1 1
Popular Post transam Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 1 minute ago, Yagoda said: Yet Russia is the boogeyman That's their own fault........ (Killing Ukrainian folk for nothing.) 1 1 1
Popular Post save the frogs Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 because people are easily manipulated by the daily news and russia is in the news of late, not china 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Dcheech Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 Who is ignoring Chinas role?! MAGA heads for sure. Putin would never have invaded the Ukraine in 2022 without assurances from Celestial leader Xi. Recall his visit in February 2022 just days before he send his divisions into the Ukraine and triggering the deadliest land war in Europe since WWII. They both did the bro love thing, and declared a NO LIMITS partnership. MAGA heads like to forget Putins greatest ally is Xi, not Donald Trump. The end result of Putin & Trumps puckery will benefit Celestial Leader Xi more than either of those two prats. Meanwhile they are yammering about the tariff war with China, not realizing how they are actually helping XI. 2 1
scorecard Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Yagoda said: Cultural Revolution time. Socialism requires enemies at all time. How's that? 1 1
Jim Blue Posted March 17 Posted March 17 1 hour ago, MalcolmB said: I have no issue with the Chinese. A peaceful nation who have not been in a war since the 1970s. Nice people and some beautiful women. Manila might disagree together with Taiwan . 1 1
Popular Post uncletiger Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 It's very simple. China is a member of the globalist criminal syndicate, and Russia isn't. The globalists aren't going to demonize one of their own, when they can blame their enemy. The only real question is whether Xi is willing to continue allowing the CCP to be subservient to the evil that emanates from Switzerland, or whether he's going to join with the US and Russia to destroy them. I guess we'll know for sure if/when he invades Taiwan. Taiwan is a globalist stronghold with all kinds of illegal bioweapons labs. If that falls and the labs get exposed, we'll know Xi switched sides. Interesting times. 2 1 2
Popular Post John Drake Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds said: Well, I read a book called Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China. (banned in China) That changed my outlook. Lunacy abounded in CCP China, like chopping down all the trees and plucking up all the grass and flowers because it was deemed 'bourgeoisie." Shuttering tea houses too. Just mental. The author is of course persona non grata in China. I suppose the Loony Lefties get off on denying simple pleasures to normal folk. Look up The Night of the Sparrows, part of Mao's Four Pests Campaign. The Chinese tried to eradicate the sparrow because they feared that it ate their grain. According to Wikipedia: "Sparrow nests were destroyed, eggs were broken, and chicks were killed. Millions of people organized into groups, and hit noisy pots and pans to prevent sparrows from resting in their nests, with the goal of causing them to drop dead from exhaustion. In addition to these tactics, citizens also simply shot the birds down from the sky with slings or guns. The campaign depleted the sparrow population, pushing it to near extinction within China." As a result, the insects that the sparrows helped control ended up getting out of hand and enhancing crop and ecological damage. 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Dan O Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Yagoda said: Yet Russia is the boogeyman They clearly are a country that is willing to forcibly take action to pull back territory that they feel should be part of Russia again. I wouldnt say boogeyman man but if they scare you then you can go hide out under your bed 1 2 1
Popular Post worgeordie Posted March 17 Popular Post Posted March 17 Why do people hate Russia , do you not even have an inkling why, stupid question you need to think carefully before touching the keys People hate China too ,but they have not invaded anybody lately, buty when they do they will be hated as much as Russia .......for sure regards worgeordie 1 2 1
zmisha Posted March 17 Posted March 17 "Why is All the Hate Towards Russia and Not China?" They will never explain this to you. But the reason is that an elephant can only compete with another elephant. An elephant cannot compete with a dog or a cat. Russia is the only country in this world that has enough nuclear weapons to wipe America off the face of the Earth. So America has only one possible competitor. And competitors in any area known to hate each other. 1 1 1
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