Trump Takes Backpedaling to an Aerobic Extreme

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White House Narrows April 2 Tariffs

The White House is narrowing its approach to tariffs set to take effect on April 2, likely omitting a set of industry-specific tariffs while applying reciprocal levies on a targeted set of nations that account for the bulk of foreign trade with the U.S.

President Trump has declared his April 2 deadline to be “Liberation Day” for the U.S., when he will put in place so-called reciprocal tariffs that seek to equalize U.S. tariffs with the duties charged by trading partners, as well as tariffs on sectors like automobiles, pharmaceuticals and semiconductors he repeatedly said would be enacted on that day.

Those sector-specific tariffs, however, are now not likely to be announced on April 2, said an administration official, who said the White House is still planning to unveil the reciprocal tariff action on that day, though planning remains fluid.

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[Yellowtail]

Great news, lower taxes for poor Americans ! 

[frank83628]

Trump places tariffs = wrong

Trump postpones tariffs = pussy

 

So, do you want tariffs or not?, or as I expect will just attack Trump regardless 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, frank83628 said:

Trump places tariffs = wrong

Trump postpones tariffs = pussy

 

So, do you want tariffs or not?, or as I expect will just attack Trump regardless 

All the left has is hating on Trump. 

[frank83628]

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

All the left has is hating on Trump. 

Yep.... well, actually now Musk too, 

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1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Trump places tariffs = wrong

Trump postpones tariffs = pussy

 

So, do you want tariffs or not?, or as I expect will just attack Trump regardless 

It's definitely a brilliant strategy by Trump. Because if there's one thing businesses love, it's betting on what Trump is going to do next, rather than knowing. So much more fun than planning,, It's kind of like Trump has brought Las Vegas into the boardroom.

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What's really funny is that whatever Trump decides to do, that's okay with Trumpists. So much independent thinking not going on. They ask me where I stand on the issue but having surrendered their thinking processes to Trump, they no longer feel accountable.

[tjintx]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What's really funny is that whatever Trump decides to do, that's okay with Trumpists. So much independent thinking not going on. They ask me where I stand on the issue but having surrendered their thinking processes to Trump, they no longer feel accountable.

 

So much independent thinking as always demonstrated by you, one trick pony.

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Just now, tjintx said:

 

So much independent thinking demonstrated by you, one trick pony.

If parroting counted as insight, you'd be an Einstein.

[Pouatchee]

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

They ask me where I stand on the issue

 

Just one question, are you even american?

[Yellowtail]

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What's really funny is that whatever Trump decides to do, that's okay with Trumpists. So much independent thinking not going on. They ask me where I stand on the issue but having surrendered their thinking processes to Trump, they no longer feel accountable.

We know where you stand. 

 

I can wait until the tariff debacle shakes out before I pass judgement. 

 

So far, I am pretty happy with the way most everything else seems to be going. 

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What's really funny is that whatever Trump decides to do, that's okay with Trumpists. So much independent thinking not going on. They ask me where I stand on the issue but having surrendered their thinking processes to Trump, they no longer feel accountable.

Trump is doing what he said he'd do and what his voters voted for, you and the haters will attack him regardless. The democrats wil object and try to obstruct him as much as possible. 

Personally I don't like how he is so supportive of Israel, but that goes for every western government not just trump. Israel seem to have a free pass to do what ever they want.

 

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

 

Just one question, are you even american?

Irrelevant 

[connda]

@placeholder  You do understand that Trump lives in your mind rent free.  That's not healthy.

[Patong2021]

Trump backpedals because he was not expecting the reaction. It isn't Trump, but the convicted felon Navarro who is behind this strategy. The man is a pariah amongst economists and now we see why.

 

The Mexicans have yet to respond to the Trump tariff threats and have been keeping their powder dry. They are a proud nation and when  Mexico retaliates, the US will feel  it. Canadians have  been working themselves into a frenzy, like a cuckolded lover.  It is something when national media are circulating  apps to  identify Canadian products and  most  everyone is avoiding US products and visits.

 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

41 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Trump places tariffs = wrong

Trump postpones tariffs = pussy

 

So, do you want tariffs or not?, or as I expect will just attack Trump regardless 

Maybe it is more about doing what he says he will do.

I am still waiting for the wall to be built and the Mexicans to pay for it.

[Pouatchee]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Irrelevant 

 

no not at all. i love people yapping about another country's politics without actually knowing anything about said country except what they think they know which usually aint anything more than a fart in a bathtub... there opinion that is... 

[jas007]

22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What's really funny is that whatever Trump decides to do, that's okay with Trumpists. So much independent thinking not going on. They ask me where I stand on the issue but having surrendered their thinking processes to Trump, they no longer feel accountable.

For some of us, it may not be 'OK." Burt whatever he does undoubtedly beats the alternative, which is the bankruptcy of the United States in the not too distant future.  Why do you think Musk has involved himself? He surely doesn't need to make any money.  Ditto for Trump.  But they both see reality and they both know that something has to change, or else. 

 

What part of a $36 Trillion debt don't you understand?  Do you seriously think that the current rate of debt expansion can continue unabated?  Other nations are already selling off US bonds.  No one is buying, except the Fed.  And the only way that trend can be reversed is if a credible effort is made to slow the spending.  Perhaps it will work.

 

The US Treasury was raided. Money was stolen by the war mongers. Waste. fraud, and abuse everywhere you look. And the system needs continuous debt expansion to survive. One of the ways they do that is by war.  War always cost money. A lot of money. A lot of debt is generated. 

 

Make fun of Trump all you want, but if you're looking for a culprit, go look in the mirror.  You're part of the problem. 

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, Pouatchee said:

 

no not at all. i love people yapping about another country's politics without actually knowing anything about said country except what they think they know which usually aint anything more than a fart in a bathtub... there opinion that is... 

if other countries were relevant then they could yap about theirs

[connda]

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What's really funny is that whatever Trump decides to do, that's okay with Trumpists. So much independent thinking not going on. They ask me where I stand on the issue but having surrendered their thinking processes to Trump, they no longer feel accountable.

That's very binary thinking.  The problem with the Far-Left is they only seem to perceive binary states, and then project that onto people they hate.  "If you support any Trump policies, then you support all of Trump's policies."  That is binary thinking.  And it wholly inaccurate.  Those who support Trump support some of his policies, and don't support some of his policies.  There are shades of grey to the right of Far-Left. 

[placeholder]

19 minutes ago, jas007 said:

For some of us, it may not be 'OK." Burt whatever he does undoubtedly beats the alternative, which is the bankruptcy of the United States in the not too distant future.  Why do you think Musk has involved himself? He surely doesn't need to make any money.  Ditto for Trump.  But they both see reality and they both know that something has to change, or else. 

 

What part of a $36 Trillion debt don't you understand?  Do you seriously think that the current rate of debt expansion can continue unabated?  Other nations are already selling off US bonds.  No one is buying, except the Fed.  And the only way that trend can be reversed is if a credible effort is made to slow the spending.  Perhaps it will work.

 

The US Treasury was raided. Money was stolen by the war mongers. Waste. fraud, and abuse everywhere you look. And the system needs continuous debt expansion to survive. One of the ways they do that is by war.  War always cost money. A lot of money. A lot of debt is generated. 

 

Make fun of Trump all you want, but if you're looking for a culprit, go look in the mirror.  You're part of the problem. 

That's funny about Musk and Trump not needing money therefore they are not greedy. What does Trump's memecoin escapade tell you? OR Musk's repeated lies about developments at Tesla? 

 

It's funny. You kept after me about my stand on tariffs but when I asked you about reversing the tax cuts of Trump and Bush, you've kept mum. So, put up or ...

 

We know that tax cuts have cost the treasury billions. We know that Reagan, Bush, and Trump promised tax cuts would pay for themselves. How did that work out? 

 

We keep on hearing about waste, abuse and fraud everywhere but there's remarkably little evidence to show that it's a significant problem. Musk has deleted any codes that might identify the cuts he has made. What does that tell you?

 

As for the "look in the mirror" schtick. Just a transparent ploy to make it personal.

 

EDIT: I should have written we know that the Reagan, Bush, and Trump tax cuts cost the Treasury TRILLIONS

 

 

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15 minutes ago, connda said:

@placeholder  You do understand that Trump lives in your mind rent free.  That's not healthy.

When someone has nothing, they often try to make it personal. You've got nothing. And it's a really trite nothing, to boot.

[Yellowtail]

12 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Maybe it is more about doing what he says he will do.

I am still waiting for the wall to be built and the Mexicans to pay for it.

500 miles were built in his first term, and Mexico did pay for it with Trump's remain in Mexico policy. 

[frank83628]

10 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Maybe it is more about doing what he says he will do.

I am still waiting for the wall to be built and the Mexicans to pay for it.

The wall was objected to by all democrats even though every president has done some sort of barrier.

Mexico paying... well, personally I didnt take that as serious, just like ending Ukraine  in 24hrs, only the derangement posse take everything he says as literal.

[madone]

56 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Yep.... well, actually now Musk too, 

and it is not just the mythical "left" that aren't thrilled

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

We know that tax cuts have cost the treasury billions. We know that Reagan, Bush, and Trump promised tax cuts would pay for themselves.

We do not know that, to say as much is to lie. 

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

How did that work out? 

It worked out well. The middle class paid less while tax revenues went up. 

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

All the left has is hating on Trump. 

Gives Vance a rest for 4 years lol

[placeholder]

21 minutes ago, jas007 said:

For some of us, it may not be 'OK." Burt whatever he does undoubtedly beats the alternative, which is the bankruptcy of the United States in the not too distant future.  Why do you think Musk has involved himself? He surely doesn't need to make any money.  Ditto for Trump.  But they both see reality and they both know that something has to change, or else. 

 

What part of a $36 Trillion debt don't you understand?  Do you seriously think that the current rate of debt expansion can continue unabated?  Other nations are already selling off US bonds.  No one is buying, except the Fed.  And the only way that trend can be reversed is if a credible effort is made to slow the spending.  Perhaps it will work.

 

The US Treasury was raided. Money was stolen by the war mongers. Waste. fraud, and abuse everywhere you look. And the system needs continuous debt expansion to survive. One of the ways they do that is by war.  War always cost money. A lot of money. A lot of debt is generated. 

all you want, but if you're looking for a culprit, go look in the mirror.  You're part of the problem. 

And for someone who claims to worry about the debt, you don't seem to care at all that the Trump/Musk machine is slashing employment at the IRS. I guess the hundreds of billions lost to tax cheats don't concern you. Have you asked yourself why the 2 billionaires are doing this?

[Yellowtail]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And for someone who claims to worry about the debt, you don't seem to care at all that the Trump/Musk machine is slashing employment at the IRS. I guess the hundreds of billions lost to tax cheats don't concern you. Have you asked yourself why the 2 billionaires are doing this?

Do you think Trump and Musk are tax evaders? 

 

Using AI I think and e-file I think with Musk in charge every return will be audited. 

[NoDisplayName]

27 minutes ago, placeholder said:

We know that tax cuts have cost the treasury billions.

 

Tax cuts don't "cost" anything.

 

It's less money being stolen from working 'merkans.