British Man Dies After First Muay Thai Fight on Koh Samui

[Captain Flack]

A number of off topic posts and the replies, with implied racism based on a name have been removed. Discuss the topic.

[Chongalulu]

On 3/30/2025 at 9:53 AM, norfolkandchance said:

Wait for it.

Oh go on then...." He's demanded a rematch...' 

[Chongalulu]

1 hour ago, Pique Dard said:

Obviously, I respect everyone’s opinion, so mine should be respected as well. And for good reason… I just can’t understand how people can turn fighting into a sport, hitting each other and risking serious - sometimes even fatal - accidents like this one.

Personally, I want to make it clear that I hate boxing and any sport that involves punching, kicking, or elbowing!

How about " handbags" ?

[terryofcrete]

On 3/30/2025 at 12:50 AM, JoePai said:

Correct - that and Cock fighting

My cock lost .

[Jonathan Swift]

On 3/30/2025 at 4:10 AM, hotsun said:

Boring sport. Very primitive sport. Thais are very proud of it

And they don't have boxing where you're from? Is regular boxing not "primitive"? As far as the "boring"part, did you never come to understand that your not liking something doesn't dictate what others should feel about it? This goes back to the gladiators - people like the drama of watching people battle it out. It gets their own aggression out by proxy. All contact sports are primitive. So I imagine that actual war also bores you? 

[Jonathan Swift]

It's very sad. People forget how dangerous these sports are. American football as well. You're lucky to get away with mere brain damage at times. Any blow to the head or vital organs can kill you. 

[cardinalblue]

Probably has an unknown serious health disease and the beating triggered something 

[Thingamabob]

2 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

Obviously, I respect everyone’s opinion, so mine should be respected as well. And for good reason… I just can’t understand how people can turn fighting into a sport, hitting each other and risking serious - sometimes even fatal - accidents like this one.

Personally, I want to make it clear that I hate boxing and any sport that involves punching, kicking, or elbowing!

That still leaves you with tennis, table tennis, badminton, squash, racquets, athletics, bowls, bowling, weightlifting, volleyball, sailing, snooker, surfing, swimming, rowing, motorsport, gymnastics, diving, curling and archery, to name but a few. Enjoy !

 

[Brave-Fart]

On 3/30/2025 at 10:18 AM, black tabby12345 said:

Young man's death looks tragic.

But I don't call it Misery.

At least, he died while  pursing his keen interest.

And he actually once stood on the stage he dreamed of.

This way, he could well accept own fate; dying for something he really loved, I presume.

 

Not like being wasted in the senseless war he doesn't believe in.

All deaths aren't equal...

So true , well said !

[Brave-Fart]

4 hours ago, zepplin said:

Boring? Let’s put you in a ring and monitor your adrenaline levels shall we? 
beats your f boring lawn bowling any day!

Or golf!

[advancebooking]

34 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

Probably has an unknown serious health disease and the beating triggered something 

eg. a rib puncturing a lung perhaps duh

[thailand49]

What is boring is seeing men at 8 am beer bar drinking, what is entertaing later is seeing them make fools of themselves ending up headlining the daily news. Opinions that is all it is nothing to get blood pressure up🤣

[robz]

Sad. Apart from Ramon Dekkers, I’ve hardly seen any farang who had a real chance in Muay Thai. Ramon Dekkers died at 43 while riding his bike — a legend. However, deaths in Muay Thai are very rare. In contrast, base jumping and wingsuiting are truly risky.

[Harrisfan]

46 minutes ago, robz said:

Sad. Apart from Ramon Dekkers, I’ve hardly seen any farang who had a real chance in Muay Thai. Ramon Dekkers died at 43 while riding his bike — a legend. However, deaths in Muay Thai are very rare. In contrast, base jumping and wingsuiting are truly risky.

John Wayne Parr won the Kings Cup.

[Walker88]

Never understood this "died doing something he loved", as if that is somehow comforting.

 

I'm willing to bet that if we could ask Joseph, "Would you rather die getting kicked in the ribs doing something you loved at age 30, or instead taken up lawn bowling and spent your 30s+ chasing women, getting married, having kids, watching them grow up, and retiring at 60 to a beach front home on Koh Samui?", he'd pick the latter.

 

To each his own, but it seems to me life is too precious to risk it playing a barbarian. Learning something for the sake of self-defense, as there are many miscreants in the world, might make sense, but to willfully ask for brain or organ damage seems a waste.

 

Like a few folks here, I'm not a fan of sports where the intent is to hurt and injure the opponent. Inadvertent injuries in sports I can accept, as I played US football, got my shares of elbows playing basketball, and took a few 90 mile an hour pitches in the leg and arm on the baseball diamond, but sports where the goal is brain damage, no thanks. The MMA craze among the goobers in the US is bizarre, as if humans have decided to stop evolving, or the idea of "being a man" involves caveman skills rather than doing things like bettering oneself, pursuing knowledge, being responsible for loved ones, adding value to society, etc.

 

Why not just bring back gladiators who slaughter each other to please the masses. Heads and limbs cut off, intestines spilled on the ground, lions eating people....yea, manly stuff! Bread and circuses for the great unwashed! Let's sink to the lowest common denominator!

[Kinok Farang]

5 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

..and bullfighting...indeed any 'sport' which involves the torture and killing of animals. Muay Thai, however, is but one of many forms of pugilism which go way back in history where humans fight humans, including Queensberry Rules boxing. Such contests appeal to some, not at all to others, as with many sports.

And spoon fighting.

[black tabby12345]

1 hour ago, Brave-Fart said:

So true , well said !

 

Hi, thank you for your comment.

At the same time, I also felt Rest in Peace.

Have a nice day.

[Jiggo]

On 3/30/2025 at 4:10 AM, hotsun said:

Boring sport. Very primitive sport. Thais are very proud of it

That and Golf, if you can call that a sport 

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, Jiggo said:

That and Golf, if you can call that a sport 

IME people who don't think golf is a sport are usually quite incompetent at it.

[black tabby12345]

3 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

You're right, Muay Thai originated as the 'Art of Killing,' created for combat in warzones due to Thailand's long history of territorial disputes, like those with Burma. While it evolved into a sport, its origins are rooted in real-life survival. However, when it comes to danger in modern combat sports, boxing generally carries a higher risk of fatalities per fight. This is largely due to boxing's focus on head strikes, which leads to more cumulative brain trauma and a higher chance of severe injuries or death. In contrast, Muay Thai’s emphasis on strikes to the body and legs reduces the frequency of fatal head injuries, making it statistically safer in terms of long-term brain health and deaths during competition

 

Hi, thank you for posting additional information related to Muay Thai.

Several years ago, a friend of mine(young man in his mid 20s, from the N/America), was attending M/Thai school nearby.

He said that K/Boxing comes with greater danger(even more than western boxing), so that the whole match has only 5 rounds(instead of 8-12). 

 

After he completed his course, he stood on the ring as the "professional" a few times.

Fortunately, he won all of the matches involved,  and safely came back without injuries.

 

Even though I have never done any boxing myself, I still know about its common aftereffects; punch drunk syndrome(caused by internal brain damage). 

Symptoms are: chronical headache, nausea, numbness, loss of memory and balance, and dementia etc...

 

I thank you again for good talk with you.

Have a nice day.

 

[Ben Zioner]

On 3/30/2025 at 4:22 AM, flyingtlger said:

At least he died doing something he liked. RIP Joseph 🙏.....

Getting beaten up? 

 

But I plusone on the RIP bit.

[Ben Zioner]

11 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

Even though I have never done any boxing myself, I still know about its common aftereffects; punch drunk syndrome(caused by internal brain damage). 

Symptoms are: chronical headache, nausea, numbness, loss of memory and balance, and dementia etc...

Should have been banned decades ago. But too much money involved for the thugs who promote it.

[robz]

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

John Wayne Parr won the Kings Cup.

Yes, another great farang muay thai fighter.

[Patong2021]

On 3/30/2025 at 1:02 AM, Jeff the Chef said:

Condolences to all Family and friends. RIP to Joseph Itai Rinomhota.

 

Madam's family are into Muay Thai bigtime, nephew is local Poo Yai Baan, trainer, and promotor, loads of near relatives and friends are ex-fighters, some were good in their day, it is a big family tradition.

I willingly sponsor some local fighters, and regularly attend fights within 100kms.

As the only "Falange" in the village that participates in all the local customs, including encouraging the local Muay Thai boxers I feel I'm well respected and always invited to Family occasions and ceremonies at our 2 local temples.

 

Before the regular Thai knockers start, this costs me nothing extra than if I was a local, Madam and family wouldn't allow it, I get more yak-yak off her because I voluntarily help lost causes. 

 

Perhaps not intended but you are  giving a textbook example of a self delusion. You are in a small inconsequential  village where local uneducated people engage in an activity that is all that they can do. Those with intelligence are pursuing something  more productive.

In the societal hierarchy, the village  muay thai fighters are on the same level as general labour; disposable and interchangeable. A significant number who last  more than a year and who actually fight will end up  with brain damage, manifesting itself by  reduced IQs, and in other cases, Parkinsons, or early onset dementia and other neurological disease.

It is not unusual for local fights, like boxing in other countries to be fixed. They are organized for cheap entertainment and for revenue. Young  Thai kids are fed a false dream just like the dead end kids of the farang urban cities were tossed into the meat grinder of the ring. Foreign fighters  are churned. In and out. Some pay to play and pay to win. Others actually believe they have a chance at something.

 

 

[LeRoux]

On 3/30/2025 at 5:18 AM, black tabby12345 said:

Young man's death looks tragic.

But I don't call it Misery.

At least, he died while  pursing his keen interest.

And he actually once stood on the stage he dreamed of.

This way, he could well accept own fate; dying for something he really loved, I presume.

 

Not like being wasted in the senseless war he doesn't believe in.

All deaths aren't equal...

Sort of a Valhalla Qualifying type of an ending.

[black tabby12345]

8 minutes ago, LeRoux said:

Sort of a Valhalla Qualifying type of an ending.

 

Valhalla is the brave dead fighters' heaven(in the Scandinavian myth), isn't it?

[brfsa2]

Muay Thai is an awesome sport, it's my 2nd favorite to jiu-jitsu. 

Age doesnt matter, you can start any age, just go slowly dont compete. I have competed in jj but not anymore. competitions can be dangerous if you are not prepared,.

 

To compete, you need is a very strong core around the ribs to engulf your core, that takes 5-10 years to develop.

[norfolkandchance]

4 hours ago, Chongalulu said:

Oh go on then...." He's demanded a rematch...' 

GoFundMe.

[LeRoux]

4 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Valhalla is the brave dead fighters' heaven(in the Scandinavian myth), isn't it?

Originally part of the Norseman Religion.  Where Valiant Warriors who died in battle  went after Death.

To Raise Your Glass Of Honeymead!

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

people who don't think golf is a sport

Think that there are very insecure men, who feel suddenly powerful because they can whack a little ball with a club and it flies so far... look! look everyone, how far I can make it fly!!!

See what a powerful manly man am I...