Texas Children Suffer Vitamin A Poisoning Amid Measles Outbreak Following RFK Jr's Claims

[fredwiggy]

10 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Monumental claptrap Fred. where do you get this nonsense?

 

IMO, all vaccines have led to misery and early deaths. They have not save ONE life, anywhere at any time.

 

Covid was not a disease at all. Simply made up nonsense.

 

Diseases can't be passed from person to person.

 

Ok! Before this post gets booted off. Show where a virus has ever been isolated. Where is there evidence that a disease (if there is such a thing) is infectious?

It helps to read up on things before a decision is made. Your opinion is noted, although way off. Facts are facts, and research online can help you find facts about disease control or eradication. Of course not all diseases are infectious, but many are. The flu, measles, HIV, Strep, Covid, and others. Some, like cancer, diabetes, Alzheimers, aren't infectious. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but it's the wrong source, as opinions mean nothing.............https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17724-infectious-diseases

[fredwiggy]

13 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

You didn't read the cited text, did you?

I read it, and knew about Measles as a child, and had it, with the vaccine, but didn't get very sick. I'm very much into health and ways to stay healthy naturally, but will take a vaccine if I think it might prevent death.............https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/infectious-diseases/symptoms-causes/syc-20351173.

[johng]

46 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

As 45, POTUS suggested using disinfectant injections to cure Covid

Fake news  which you Trump haters continue to fall for hook line and sinker  !

[frank83628]

32 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I never said bleach. Some misquoted him, but disinfectant is pretty much the same thing. Both poisonous to a human.  Don't call someone you don't know a fool, because that actually makes you the fool. I'm not political. I sit back and see them self destruct. Trump has said many stupid things over the years because a narcissist with a huge ego cannot be wrong, at least to them. Trump said, "I know everything about Covid,", when it first came out, and didn't close the borders immediately until something was done. It cost many lives. He looks to others for answers, and fits them in, letting others think it was his ideas. When someone has such a huge ego, they talk without thinking, with a little bit of knowledge on a subject from something they either read or heard, and then puts it out there without facts to back it. He does this a lot.

So what's under your sink to clean the toilet is the same stuff they use in a surgical enviroment?

[Stiddle Mump]

18 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Many have been isolated and many have had vaccine developed. Your deliberate ignorance does not change the facts.

You are absolutely wrong there Sir. No virus (if there even is such a entity**) has ever been isolated.

 

Dr Enders, in 1954, was the first to claim he had isolated a virus (so he said), but if you read the methodology section of his paper, he did no such thing.

 

Why not take a look for yourself?

 

** - IMO, a virus is simply cell debris. Dead. Inert. There to aid cell the rejuvenation process

[fredwiggy]

Just now, frank83628 said:

So what's under your sink to clean the toilet is the same stuff they use in a surgical enviroment?

There are a variety of disinfectants available, some more toxic than others, and some from natural sources, like vinegar and hydrogen peroxide, which can kill germs.

[NoDisplayName]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I read it, and knew about Measles as a child, and had it, with the vaccine, but didn't get very sick. I'm very much into health and ways to stay healthy naturally, but will take a vaccine if I think it might prevent death.

 

You didn't read it.

No mention of measles in my post.

Was about 3-letter agencies using vaccine programs as cover for spy operations, leading to mistrust by locals.

 

Replied to presnock about "because of some tribal folks in the Middle East/Asia desert type refusing to get ANY vaccines."

 

If you had read my cited text, you'd see that "the CIA will no longer use vaccination programs as cover for spying operations.

[Patong2021]

8 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Monumental claptrap Fred. where do you get this nonsense?

 

IMO, all vaccines have led to misery and early deaths. They have not save ONE life, anywhere at any time.

 

Covid was not a disease at all. Simply made up nonsense.

 

Diseases can't be passed from person to person.

 

Ok! Before this post gets booted off. Show where a virus has ever been isolated. Where is there evidence that a disease (if there is such a thing) is infectious?

 

You are making false statements. 

We are beyond allowances for alternative or dissenting opinions as you are  denying established irefutable fact.  Your motives do not interest me and anyone who engages  with you in an attempt to convince you is wasting their time. It is not even amusing in the least.  Some mental illness conditions result in the subjects very vocal denial of reality and creation of an alternative reality. Even the Russian and Iraninan disinformation messengers gave up on this type of effort some time ago, prefering to incite political unrest as it was more productive for their purposes.

[Patong2021]

Just now, NoDisplayName said:

 

You didn't read it.

No mention of measles in my post.

Was about 3-letter agencies using vaccine programs as cover for spy operations, leading to mistrust by locals.

 

Replied to presnock about "because of some tribal folks in the Middle East/Asia desert type refusing to get ANY vaccines."

 

If you had read my cited text, you'd see that "the CIA will no longer use vaccination programs as cover for spying operations.

 

The 3 letter agencies did not use measle vaccination or polio eradication programs for spying.  This was a false claim promoted by  certin factions who were opposed to vaccines. Pakistan tribal members were killing WHO  polio health workers  long before the  claims of spying were ever made.

[Stiddle Mump]

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You are making false statements. 

We are beyond allowances for alternative or dissenting opinions as you are  denying established irefutable fact. 

Sorry mate, you are wrong.

 

A virus has NEVER been isolated, let alone shown to cause disease.

 

What are vaccines for? No virus = no need for vaccines.

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are absolutely wrong there Sir Bud. No virus (if there even is such a entity**) has ever been isolated.

 

Dr Enders, in 1954, was the first to claim he had isolate a virus (so he said), but if you read the methodology section of his paper, he did no such thing.

 

Why not take a look for yourself?

 

** - IMO, a virus is simply cell debris. Dead. Inert. There to aid cell the rejuvenation process

I remember this when Covid was huge in the news. Reuters is one of the few places where unbiased things come from..............https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/sars-cov-2-has-been-isolated-and-its-complete-genome-has-been-sequenced-idUSL1N2LS27P/

[Patong2021]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

So what's under your sink to clean the toilet is the same stuff they use in a surgical enviroment?

No it is not. There are different solutions, strengths and  processes to ensure  a sterile solution.

Comrade, even mother russia supports erly vaccination against preventable childhood.  diseases.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

You didn't read it.

No mention of measles in my post.

Was about 3-letter agencies using vaccine programs as cover for spy operations, leading to mistrust by locals.

 

Replied to presnock about "because of some tribal folks in the Middle East/Asia desert type refusing to get ANY vaccines."

 

If you had read my cited text, you'd see that "the CIA will no longer use vaccination programs as cover for spying operations.

I'm talking about reading the OP's post, not yours. That link meant nothing to me.

[NoDisplayName]

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The 3 letter agencies did not use measle vaccination or polio eradication programs for spying.  This was a false claim promoted by  certin factions who were opposed to vaccines. Pakistan tribal members were killing WHO  polio health workers  long before the  claims of spying were ever made.

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — A top White House official has pledged that the CIA will no longer use vaccination programs as cover for spying operations. The agency used the ruse in targeting Osama bin Laden before the U.S. raid that killed him in 2011.

Lisa Monaco, President Barack Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, wrote to the deans of 13 prominent public health schools last week, saying that the CIA has agreed it would no longer use vaccination programs or workers for intelligence purposes. The agency also agreed to not use genetic materials obtained through such programs.

 

https://www.apnews.com/article/44b83d52c6e64230afce0e9c544c32bd

[NoDisplayName]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm talking about reading the OP's post, not yours. That link meant nothing to me.

 

My misteak.

 

I assumed you responding to my post meant you had, you know, read my post, and were, like, responding to my post.

[Patong2021]

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sorry mate, you are wrong.

 

A virus has NEVER been isolated, let alone shown to cause disease.

 

What are vaccines for? No virus = no need for vaccines.

Viruses have been isolated. This  issue has been previously addressed. You are denying reality again. How is it you  are the lone person  denying the historical work of Koch and  literally the millions of scientists and medical professionals who have long ago isilated viruses and shown their structures and  in many cases their genomes?

 

Why don't you prove us all wrong. Take the  virus isolate of ebola, or marburg and  give us a lesson as you suffer no ill effect and  go on to revolutionize the world of science. Everyone is wrong and only you are correct.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Patong2021 said:

Viruses have been isolated. This  issue has been previously addressed. You are denying reality again. How is it you  are the lone person  denying the historical work of Koch and  literally the millions of scientists and medical professionals who have long ago isilated viruses and shown their structures and  in many cases their genomes?

 

Why don't you prove us all wrong. Take the  virus isolate of ebola, or marburg and  give us a lesson as you suffer no ill effect and  go on to revolutionize the world of science. Everyone is wrong and only you are correct.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/virus-isolation

[Stiddle Mump]

30 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I remember this when Covid was huge in the news. Reuters is one of the few places where unbiased things come from..............https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/sars-cov-2-has-been-isolated-and-its-complete-genome-has-been-sequenced-idUSL1N2LS27P/

Don't know when this came to light Fred.

 

Reuters is absolutley wrong. This sequencing is simply just 'mix and match' in a computer. Can't be further from the real world.

[Walker88]

20 minutes ago, johng said:

Fake news  which you Trump haters continue to fall for hook line and sinker  !

You can watch the video, MAGA.

 

The willful ignorance of MAGAs is something to behold.

[Walker88]

11 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sorry mate, you are wrong.

 

A virus has NEVER been isolated, let alone shown to cause disease.

 

What are vaccines for? No virus = no need for vaccines.

Yes, we all know that disease comes from curses. Time for a real witch hunt!!!!!!

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, johng said:

Yet more dis-information from those "trusted media" sources.

Isn’t there plenty of footage of Trump suggesting injecting people with bleach to cure COVID?
 

Page 1 from the MAGA playbook:

 

* lie

* deny

* deflect

* obfuscate

* repeat

[cdemundo]

27 minutes ago, johng said:

Fake news  which you Trump haters continue to fall for hook line and sinker  !

The video of Trump saying this is available on YouTube.

 

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Viruses have been isolated. This  issue has been previously addressed. You are denying reality again. How is it you  are the lone person  denying the historical work of Koch and  literally the millions of scientists and medical professionals who have long ago isilated viruses and shown their structures and  in many cases their genomes?

 

Why don't you prove us all wrong. Take the  virus isolate of ebola, or marburg and  give us a lesson as you suffer no ill effect and  go on to revolutionize the world of science. Everyone is wrong and only you are correct.

I don't mind standing alone on the ginormous subject of infectious viruses.

 

I stand by my position, after spening years promoting the view that a virus is nothing to be scared of. Although nothing productive from 2000, until the onset of covid in 2019. 

 

Much of modern medicine's foundations is build upon falsehoods and simply lies. It was hi-jacked by big money about 120 years ago, and has gradually morphed into Big Pharma.

 

Modern healthcare has been taken over by Big Pharma. I'm doing my bit in seeing that people do stay well, and not get sick because of unnecessary medical interventions.

 

As for the US. One of the most advanced countries; but also one of the sickest.

 

If that doesn't sit well with you; then so be it.

 

Of course; it you are feeling un-well, go visit a medical practitioner.

[fredwiggy]

16 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Don't know when this came to light Fred.

 

Reuters is absolutley wrong. This sequencin is just 'mix and match' in a coomputer. Can't be further from the real world.

Reuters is one of the few that only go by facts and not biased opinions. They gather data from reliable sources and post it.

[Stiddle Mump]

12 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Yes, we all know that disease comes from curses. Time for a real witch hunt!!!!!!

TBH, this is a lot nearer the mark than you might think bud.

 

The power of the mind should not be underestimated where sickness is concerned.

[Stiddle Mump]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Reuters is one of the few that only go by facts and not biased opinions. They gather data from reliable sources and post it.

Well, in that case I'll have to backtrack.

 

New statement!

 

Reuters posted 'facts' from sources that have simply made stuff up. Imaginary evidence in this case.

[johng]

22 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

You can watch the video,

I have watched the video fake news.

[cdemundo]

35 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sorry mate, you are wrong.

 

A virus has NEVER been isolated, let alone shown to cause disease.

 

What are vaccines for? No virus = no need for vaccines.

bête noire

monomania

hobby horse (a preoccupation or favorite topic.)

obsession

compulsion,

delusion

fascination

mania

phobia

preoccupation

 

It's gotta be one of these.

[fredwiggy]

7 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Well, in that case I'll have to backtrack.

 

New statement!

 

Reuters posted 'facts' from sources that have simply made stuff up. Imaginary evidence in this case.

Problem there is, their sources are scientists and labs that actually make the discoveries. I'm guessing you don't believe anyone, which is fine

[Stiddle Mump]

1 minute ago, cdemundo said:

bête noire

monomania

hobby horse (a preoccupation or favorite topic.)

obsession

compulsion,

delusion

fascination

mania

phobia

preoccupation

 

It's gotta be one of these.

An attempt at humour? Off to the joke section with you Sir.

 

You probably hadn't noticed that April Fool's Day has been and gone.