Trump Warns Israel Would Lead Strike if Iran Refuses to Abandon Nuclear Ambitions

[thaibeachlovers]

35 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

It is easy to Monday morning quarterback this one. The big problem now is that current warheads are significantly larger. They are not the same weapons.

Western and Russian ones certainly, but could Iran make a hydrogen bomb or mount multiple warheads in a ballistic missile? I doubt it.

 

Either nukes are used and we all die, or they are not and we die of pollution instead. We humans don't have a good track record when it comes to making bad choices.

[BexMan]

I can’t see the US attacking Iran. They have used so much weaponry going after the Houthi’s, there is now a shortage. They have also had limited effect on the Houthi weapons stored underground, so Iran with their even deeper storage facilities would be really difficult to destroy. No point hitting them if you can’t destroy their weaponry and take out their Nuclear building facilities.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, BexMan said:

I can’t see the US attacking Iran. They have used so much weaponry going after the Houthi’s, there is now a shortage. They have also had limited effect on the Houthi weapons stored underground, so Iran with their even deeper storage facilities would be really difficult to destroy. No point hitting them if you can’t destroy their weaponry and take out their Nuclear building facilities.

Israel already knocked out some of Irans nuclear facilities and a lot of the air defense it had.

 

Israel destroyed active nuclear weapons research facility in Iran, officials say

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/15/iran-israel-destroyed-active-nuclear-weapons-research-facility

[BexMan]

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Israel already knocked out some of Irans nuclear facilities and a lot of the air defense it had.

 

Israel destroyed active nuclear weapons research facility in Iran, officials say

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/15/iran-israel-destroyed-active-nuclear-weapons-research-facility

Thanks for the link, I hadn’t read about that success! I did see a video the other day showcasing the amount of weapons that the Iranians had stored underground, it was quite startling. It’s a bit of a concern that they are likely to use these weapons to hit US targets and Israel if they are attacked. I know Israel has been very successful fending off previous Iranian attacks, but there are a lot of weapons in storage.

[Dcheech]

As China buys 90% of Iranian oil. There is another factor to consider.  

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[connda]

And let Israel lead the charge. Next new moon is April 27th. Be like Nike: Just Do It!
 

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, Dcheech said:

Its almost like their was another player, besides Iran, assisting & propping up Syria. A supplier of both military equipment, & soldiers, to Assad. 

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise, it was RUSSIA. However given the bro love for Putin, MAGA heads are not permitted to mention that fact.   

 

Yes,  Russia was  helping Assad. However, there was no concern for the people or a motivation  rooted in expanding a religious doctrine. Rather, the goal of Russia was to manipulate oil prices so that it could get as high a price as possible. It wanted the port in Syria so it could meddle in the Mediterranean too. Russia has no love for Iran because Iran is also linked to  violent fundamentalists in the Russian "stan" republics.  Russia and Putin are a threat to world peace, but in a different way than Iran.

[SiSePuede419]

14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Either nukes are used and we all die

Time for your fortnite dose of k again?

 

You sound depressed. 😃

 

No, Israel nuking Iran even with Russia tossing a few duds won't kill everyone. 

 

A global nuclear war would be catastrophic and could kill hundreds of millions (or more), it's highly improbable that it would literally end all human life. 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/12/2025 at 8:16 PM, BexMan said:

I can’t see the US attacking Iran. They have used so much weaponry going after the Houthi’s, there is now a shortage. They have also had limited effect on the Houthi weapons stored underground, so Iran with their even deeper storage facilities would be really difficult to destroy. No point hitting them if you can’t destroy their weaponry and take out their Nuclear building facilities.

Never mind about reality. Going by the latest fiasco on Yemen, they'll send some missiles, blow up some people and claim a great victory.

Believing one's own propaganda is quite sad really.

[Dcheech]

On 4/13/2025 at 2:11 AM, Patong2021 said:

Yes,  Russia was  helping Assad. However, there was no concern for the people or a motivation  rooted in expanding a religious doctrine. Rather, the goal of Russia was to manipulate oil prices so that it could get as high a price as possible. It wanted the port in Syria so it could meddle in the Mediterranean too. Russia has no love for Iran because Iran is also linked to  violent fundamentalists in the Russian "stan" republics.  Russia and Putin are a threat to world peace, but in a different way than Iran.

 

Russia aided Syria because of past, soviet alliances & yes, access to a port, but little to do with oil. Syria has oil, not a major player. Maybe Russia has no love for Iran but they’re a top military supplier after China in the Ukraine war. In fact today Iran has military/tech units in Crimea coordinating Russian/Iranian drone tech attacks..

As China gets 90 per cent of Iranian oil. Netty and Trump bellowing hits a reality wall. Not that anyone believes what those two say anyway, but attack Iran?! ----- bellow all you want, Not going to happen.

[Purdey]

On 4/11/2025 at 7:09 AM, Social Media said:

Israel will obviously be very much involved in that. They’ll be the leader of that. But nobody leads us, but we do what we want to do.

1. Israel will be the leader of an attack

2. No one leads America on an attack

Very confusing.

[Patong2021]

7 hours ago, Dcheech said:

 

Russia aided Syria because of past, soviet alliances & yes, access to a port, but little to do with oil. Syria has oil, not a major player. Maybe Russia has no love for Iran but they’re a top military supplier after China in the Ukraine war. In fact today Iran has military/tech units in Crimea coordinating Russian/Iranian drone tech attacks..

As China gets 90 per cent of Iranian oil. Netty and Trump bellowing hits a reality wall. Not that anyone believes what those two say anyway, but attack Iran?! ----- bellow all you want, Not going to happen.

 

The remark in respect to oil price was in respect to the region. A country that can influence how many vessels can safely transit the Persian Gulf, Suez Canal and the Mediterranean Sea can also influence the cost of oil. Short supplies of Gulf Arab sourced oil pushes world price up and then both Iran and Russia then profit because they  get a higher price for its oil. 

 

 

[billd766]

On 4/13/2025 at 5:43 AM, SiSePuede419 said:

Time for your fortnite dose of k again?

 

You sound depressed. 😃

 

No, Israel nuking Iran even with Russia tossing a few duds won't kill everyone. 

 

A global nuclear war would be catastrophic and could kill hundreds of millions (or more), it's highly improbable that it would literally end all human life. 

 

And are you willing to let Trump take that chance.

 

Let us make an assumption that it will end up as a full scale nuclear war and that most of the people are dying or dead. Not only nuclear, but biological and chemical warfare also.

 

However there will be nuclear safe shelters for certain people to escape into. But how many people will make the shelter and how long will they have to stay there. Take any number you like for the people inside the shelter.

 

How much food will you store away to feed that number of people 3 times a day?

How much clean water will you store for the same number of people?

Where will you send all the waste water from the toilets and showers?

Where will you store all the trash?

How much fuel will you store to run the generators to keep the shelter running?

Most importantly, how many years  would you be willing to live underground?

 

Now the war is over after a number of years, and you are one of the survivors. You leave the shelter and find what?

 

A devastated world with polluted land so you can't grow food, the rivers and the seas are polluted, so you can't even eat the fish, There will be no undamaged roads and the only vehicles will be the ones in the shelter. There won't be any fuel left anyway, nor will there be any gas or electricity to pump the non-existent fuel.

 

There will be no government, no police, no hospitals, no military etc as they will all have vanished. There may be money in the banks, jewels and gold in the shops simply because you can't eat them. There will be no food, water or even beer because they will have been taken in the first few days

 

There may even be surviving humans, if they (and you) are unlucky, but I don't think that you would want to meet them.

 

I will ask you again, are you really willing to let Trump take that chance.

[daveAustin]

On 4/11/2025 at 6:27 PM, johng said:

Why can certain countries have nuclear weapons but not others ?

Gawd 😔

[johng]

5 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Gawd 😔

Is it something to do with beards ?

no I suppose not as North Korea's got them and is not very "beardy"

must be some other reason that certain countries can have them but others can't.

[SiSePuede419]

16 hours ago, billd766 said:

I will ask you again, are you really willing to let Trump take that chance.

If you think anyone controls Trump except Trump, think again.  How did I let him?  I didn't vote for Harris. No need. Elections are by states. I live in a Blue State, no chance Trump would win there.  I don't focus on things I can't control.  There won't be anything like what you're describing.  No, I've been backpacking before.  Dehydrated food sucks.  No need to pretend I live on Mars or in Prison with food buckets.

 

Russians love their children, too.

 

Saw a Russian girl on the beach maybe 1-2 years old.

Dropped her binky in the sand.

Her older brother takes it out of her hand and puts it in the bag saying no no it's dirty.

He stands there with his arms crossed looking all tough and hard.

The baby girl starts to cry and runs over to Daddy.

He breaks down and takes the dirty pacifier right out of the bag and sticks it in her mouth.

See?

A baby girl is tougher than the average Russian. 😄

[thaipo7]

On 4/10/2025 at 9:52 PM, FritsSikkink said:

USA bullying and looking for more wars again.

Right - We need Iran to have nuclear weapons that can strike the US.   What do you not understand?  They said they will use against the US and chant 'Death to the USA' when they want to.  They only understand strength against them.  Biden was much better to have in the WH right?

[Dcheech]

26 minutes ago, thaipo7 said:

Right - We need Iran to have nuclear weapons that can strike the US.   What do you not understand?  They said they will use against the US and chant 'Death to the USA' when they want to.  They only understand strength against them.  Biden was much better to have in the WH right?

Pakistan has nukes. Those are the guys who were sheltering/protecting Osama in Abbottabad. The guys who aid & support the terrorists who killed 24 tourists in Kashmir, yesterday. With friends like that .... you're getting your knitting in a knot about Iran?!  

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

Right - We need Iran to have nuclear weapons that can strike the US.   What do you not understand?  They said they will use against the US and chant 'Death to the USA' when they want to.  They only understand strength against them.  Biden was much better to have in the WH right?

The USA is the only country in the world who has used them.

Countries who don't have them and have a leader the USA doesn't like are being invaded by them. Stop bullying other countries and think you rule the world and you might have less enemies.