This is the least hot Songkran I ever remember......And a bit rainy too...

[radiochaser]

18 hours ago, VBF said:

Agree that the use of  "climate change" rather than "global warming" is more appropriate and better describes what's going on.

I was in Pattaya from Feb to April and don't recall as much rain in previous Feb/Mar as there was this year.

Also, when I returned to UK, the temperatures were more akin to May or June than April.

 

Anyone who denies the existence of climate change is really not paying attention!

"Climate" is always "changing".  It has for millennia.   

Why, I remember almost like it was yesterday, when there was an iceberg almost sitting in my back yard, 10,000 or so years ago.  It covered Canada, and Alaska too, because it was so frikking cold.  

 

Then, climate changed and it got warmer and the iceberg melted and now we got all those Canadians up north of where I live.  

 

[radiochaser]

17 hours ago, Presnock said:

suggest you check out some the reports on this forum over the recent past as they have been quoting the weather people about the hottest year and hotest month every month this year too.

When we evacuated to kanchanburi during the super flood in BKK (2011), during an afternoon summer storm, I noticed small hail and all the Thais laughed saying it was too hot for ice to fall, just like it never snows here.  I mangaged to snag some of the hail and showed them that it was ice but none of them had ever sen it before.  Now it is a daily occurrnce duiring the summer stor,m sn last month one news clip showed a home owner picking up a golfball size hairstone!  just saying that the weather is changing worldwide whether you can see it or not.

It snows in Chiang Mai sometimes.   I used to work with a guy back in the 1990's.   He was in the U.S. Air Force stationed at the air base in Chiang Mai in the late 1960's or early 1970's.    He had a picture of him standing in snow in Chiang Mai. 

[cdemundo]

On 4/15/2025 at 8:01 AM, steven100 said:

what an exciting topic.  I can't wait for your next one. 

It's everyday, sensible conversation.

This forum needs more of this.

[cdemundo]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I deny that it's caused by humans, or can be modified by humans.

That settles that then.

Next question.

[Presnock]

19 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

It snows in Chiang Mai sometimes.   I used to work with a guy back in the 1990's.   He was in the U.S. Air Force stationed at the air base in Chiang Mai in the late 1960's or early 1970's.    He had a picture of him standing in snow in Chiang Mai. 

Must have been on top of doi intanon  I was in NKP early 70's, winter was pretty cool but never heard of the snow.  this year, el nino is gone replaced by la nina, last rainy season Korat nakorn Ratchasima was totally dry with the dam holding less than 30% of water needed so crops were affected early this year but lately they have had more summer storms with hours of heavy downpours, filling the dam back up and watering all the crops.  Beautiful corn I saw on the news this past week!.  Now the weather folks are saying through the end of this month lots of high temperatures and therefore summer storms in especially North and eastern Pakisaan.  the south continues with heavy rains daily.

[Presnock]

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

Must have been on top of doi intanon  I was in NKP early 70's, winter was pretty cool but never heard of the snow.  this year, el nino is gone replaced by la nina, last rainy season Korat nakorn Ratchasima was totally dry with the dam holding less than 30% of water needed so crops were affected early this year but lately they have had more summer storms with hours of heavy downpours, filling the dam back up and watering all the crops.  Beautiful corn I saw on the news this past week!.  Now the weather folks are saying through the end of this month lots of high temperatures and therefore summer storms in especially North and eastern Pakisaan.  the south continues with heavy rains daily.

I googled snow in Thailand ever and it said according to the archives it did snow once in 1955 probably on doi inthanon.  and explained why snow is so rare in Thailand.  Guess one can neevr be too old to learn something !  Thanks for informing me!

[radiochaser]

45 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Must have been on top of doi intanon  I was in NKP early 70's, winter was pretty cool but never heard of the snow.  this year, el nino is gone replaced by la nina, last rainy season Korat nakorn Ratchasima was totally dry with the dam holding less than 30% of water needed so crops were affected early this year but lately they have had more summer storms with hours of heavy downpours, filling the dam back up and watering all the crops.  Beautiful corn I saw on the news this past week!.  Now the weather folks are saying through the end of this month lots of high temperatures and therefore summer storms in especially North and eastern Pakisaan.  the south continues with heavy rains daily.

I had to do a quick check with Google Earth, but it looks like NKP is only a few hundred feet above sea level.   Chiang Mai is in the 1000 feet above sea level, it looks like, in the city proper.   Elevation is well above 1000 ft in the mountains.   I don't know where the picture, the guy I worked with, was taken in Chiang Mai.   That was before I had been there or knew about the elevation of that part of Thailand.   

 

My only previous knowledge of Chiang Mai was knowing that there was a detachment where those of my M.O.S. worked and that it was a prized duty station.   Some people in Europe reenlisted so they could go there.   Technically, I wasn't supposed to be in Thailand as I only had 7 months left on my enlistment when I was transferred there (I wrote a pretty good list of BS for the transfer).  Only those people that had more than a year and extended (or reenlisted) were sent there.  So I finished out my enlistment at the Ramasun Station base outside of Udon Thani. 

 

I have seen snow at the 2000 ft level in California, while wearing T shirts in the San Joaquin Valley, California.  

[Presnock]

2 hours ago, radiochaser said:

I had to do a quick check with Google Earth, but it looks like NKP is only a few hundred feet above sea level.   Chiang Mai is in the 1000 feet above sea level, it looks like, in the city proper.   Elevation is well above 1000 ft in the mountains.   I don't know where the picture, the guy I worked with, was taken in Chiang Mai.   That was before I had been there or knew about the elevation of that part of Thailand.   

 

My only previous knowledge of Chiang Mai was knowing that there was a detachment where those of my M.O.S. worked and that it was a prized duty station.   Some people in Europe reenlisted so they could go there.   Technically, I wasn't supposed to be in Thailand as I only had 7 months left on my enlistment when I was transferred there (I wrote a pretty good list of BS for the transfer).  Only those people that had more than a year and extended (or reenlisted) were sent there.  So I finished out my enlistment at the Ramasun Station base outside of Udon Thani. 

 

I have seen snow at the 2000 ft level in California, while wearing T shirts in the San Joaquin Valley, California.  

Yeah I wrote that the weather historians said it did snow in CM province in 1955 once, and assumed it was on the highest mountain here.  They also mentioned that even though on the mountains it sometimes gets to zero degrees ( I have been on Doiinthanon when it was at zero degrees at daylight about 10 years ago.  watched the dew freeze to white color all over the grass.  The weather site mentioned that for snow there has to be a certain amount of moisture in the air which is normally lacking in Thailand during that time of year.  Yeah along the Mekhong the land is much lower than in ChiangMai with lots of mountains.  I can recall in NKP that some mudpuddles did turn to ice during the winter but not often and that was in the 72-73.  

[nauseus]

22 hours ago, Presnock said:

suggest you check out some the reports on this forum over the recent past as they have been quoting the weather people about the hottest year and hotest month every month this year too.

When we evacuated to kanchanburi during the super flood in BKK (2011), during an afternoon summer storm, I noticed small hail and all the Thais laughed saying it was too hot for ice to fall, just like it never snows here.  I mangaged to snag some of the hail and showed them that it was ice but none of them had ever sen it before.  Now it is a daily occurrnce duiring the summer stor,m sn last month one news clip showed a home owner picking up a golfball size hairstone!  just saying that the weather is changing worldwide whether you can see it or not.

 

The flood was in December - not summer.

[Presnock]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

The flood was in December - not summer.

we spent 3 months in Kanchanaburi as the flood didn't go away early.  Daugher's school was right next o one of the klongs being used to drain the flood waters so that school was closed for many months.

[Espanol]

On 4/16/2025 at 6:16 AM, Zapitapi said:

you got a point.. winter was cooler than normal as well imho.. global cooling in action..where i live at this time of year the grass is mostly brownish..not this year..lush and green

 

 

The same thing seems to be happening everywhere this year. Even in southern Spain, it rained a lot in March this year. My Thai wife was amazed to see everything green, when it's usually already dry and brown by this time.

 

[Espanol]

On 4/16/2025 at 6:46 AM, cowellandrew said:

Climate change warning!

We have stopped burning coal in the uk so this must be a cause of cooling temperatures in Thailand!

☻☻🙈🥳🤔

 

Don't worry: for every coal-fired power plant we Europeans close to save the planet, the Chinese open two more to get cheap electricity to compete with us by manufacturing at a better price.

 

[KhunLA]

It's not even hot yet ... 

 

[watchcat]

On 4/16/2025 at 3:03 AM, black tabby12345 said:

The least hot Songkran ever experienced.

 

Does this mean no water wars?

[black tabby12345]

4 minutes ago, watchcat said:

 

Does this mean no water wars?

 

Don't worry.

Weather is one thing.

Their water war is another.

I saw them splash water each other while the nature pours it from the above.

 

[mran66]

I saw the highest ever Feels Like temp reading I've ever seen here in my weather app few days ago when had the hot day. So not that cold here... 

 

 

 

 

[ChaiyaTH]

Least hot? We have 35+ temperatures, what are you talking about, this is the normal average. It is nowhere different at all, weather is never exactly the same every year, never has been in the 15 years I lived here. Same up north where winters are never the exact same.

[watchcat]

53 minutes ago, mran66 said:

I saw the highest ever Feels Like temp reading I've ever seen here in my weather app few days ago when had the hot day. So not that cold here... 

 

Buy a new app? 

 

 

We have 35-36 daily outside CM

[mran66]

1 hour ago, watchcat said:

Buy a new app? 

 

We have 35-36 daily outside CM

 

On that day the app I use actually correlated very well with the feeling outside. Felt substantially hotter than the temperature measurement in shadow