US will abandon Ukraine peace efforts ‘within days’ if no progress made, Rubio warns

[rough diamond]

17 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I get news direct from the Kremlin whatsapp group. 

Thank you for confirming that you do always use such an unreliable source!

I assume it is written/published in gibberish as that seems to be all you ever quote!

[MicroB]

44 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

The thing is would US companies go trooping over the Ukraine countryside if the war was still on? 

Some say companies wouldn't want to invest all that money in digging and extraction unless the war was clearly over.

 

Depends on the risk and reward. Its probably not so much the active war; I'm sure the Russians will be obliging in not blowing up the American engineers, especially as they might be looking to do some sort of deal on the other side of the border. The major issue  is the extent of mining in the area. The place must be full of UXBs. Will Ukraine provide the Sappers needed, or are American PMCs with sapper experience needed? The comparison would be Iraq; did an ongoing insurgency prevent foreign companies from investing in Iraq, including upgrading its decrepit oil industry. People did go out there, and took the risk.

[rough diamond]

48 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 

Its the date all of you heads exploded, you've all got progressively worse since

I have just googled "5.11.16" and all I got was tailoring measurements!

Elastic Women's Apex Pant, 5.11 16, Burnt, Regular

https://www.armed.eu/en/elastic-women-s-apex-pant-5-11-16-burnt-regular/

No dates came up on the first Google page!!

 

[CallumWK]

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

Patriots can get their own signed copy for a mere $500 extra, while stocks last.

 

I guess 245% has to be added to that price because it is printed in China?

[papa al]

1 hour ago, FriscoKid said:

Do they actually offer classes on how to post the stupidest things possible on a forum? Well, if they don't, the good news is that you could immediately be hired to teach the classes.

Piers Morgan.?

[papa al]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

If Trump wants to exit he can exit, but doing so cold turkey without a transition policy of arms support for arms systems only the U.S. can now help with is basically directly helping Putin and directly helping war criminal Putin murder many more Ukrainian civilians. 

Blood on his hands already for previous "pauses" but he's going to the big time blood on his hands. Of course Trump will never accept blame for that, history will judge him and judge him harshly. This at the same time when a strong majority of the American people are still in favor of supporting Ukraine.

CIA been running Ukraine even well before their 2014 coup .

 

[MicroB]

7 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Is that an internationally accepted date or a back to front US one?

Either way what is the significance of the so called date?

 

 

He's naturally referring to when  St Johnstone beat the Hoops, Celtic, and has never shut up about that glorious afternoon at McDiarmond Park when wee Graham Cummings nicked the result.

 

Or, beimg a Russian, its the day Chelski took the lead in the league beating Everton 5-0 on the 5th November.

 

Or he's too clever by half and thinks that was the date of the US election. it wasn't.

 

But the wuld be 45th President did get in the news:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/06/trump-protester-i-was-beaten-for-holding-a-republicans-against-trump-sign

 

AH he sued Fox, and won. Good for him.

 

 

 

[Gottfrid]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Biden deserves it. His amazing (if mysterious to team left) work with Burisma that so impressed Putin and had such a calming effect on the whole region😅. Or Boris Johnson for his wonderful work to scuttle negotiations which allowed the maiming and death to start. Or Ukraine for peacefully blowing up Nordstream2 and releasing years worth of greenhouse gasses. Or credible western msm for their years long pre invasion narrative that Ukraine has a Nazi problem. Bravo lads.

You are missing something here, and starting derailing. The subject here was that Trump promised to end the war 24h after taking office. Has he done that?

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

He might have had a soul at one time but it's impossible to work for Trump and keep one.

Just look at the turnover of "staff" during Trump1's administration!

[rough diamond]

3 minutes ago, MicroB said:

Or he's too clever by half and thinks that was the date of the US election. it wasn't.

Thanks for that info, but do you think you know the actual significance of those digits "5.11.16" are then as, contrary to some peoples opinions, I am not into ladies dress sizes??

[papa al]

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

You are missing something here, and starting derailing. The subject here was that Trump promised to end the war 24h after taking office. Has he done that?

CIA/MIC

hard nut to crack.

But yeah,

couldn't daddy just withhold $ & munitions.?

That would end it.

Same w/ MidE.

That's what papa would do.

Before the blowfish sink a carrier.

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

you've been lied to nonstop about Ukriane, wake up

So who is telling you the lies that you believe in and keep spouting forth here?

Please publish the links!

[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Looks like the George Soros brigade is not celebrating Songkran this evening. 

 

 

what does George Soros have to do with this? The man is mobility impaired and has not been involved in political activities  for years. He is almost 95  years old. Do you really expect people to believe that he springs out of bed each morning and  gets  to work planning for world domination and hatching  schemes around the world? On a good day, I expect he is able to make it to the  toilet before leaking. On other days, he probably does well if he can chew and swallow something rather than having to slurp something that has gone through a blender.

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Darn. That Nobel Peace Prize was so close.

 

I'm hoping that goes to the desperately unpopular dictator Zelensky.......oh boy wouldn't that hurt?

[Will B Good]

When the going gets tough the weak and pathetic just give up.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

He is almost 95  years old.

nah, you can still do a lot at 95. all you need to do is pick up the phone and write checks.

there's conspiracies that he's behind a lot of protests ...

it's a joke i've been using with BLMFem. I'll retire my joke now. 

 

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

nah, you can still do a lot at 95. all you need to do is pick up the phone and write checks.

there's conspiracies that he's behind a lot of protests ...

it's a joke i've been using with BLMFem. I'll retire my joke now. 

 

I has at least 1 son involved in the business

[NativeBob]

Is it obvious? as old albanian proverb says: 
 

Quote

you can bring donkey to the pond, but you won't make him drink if he doesn't want.

US efforts were: 

visits to Middle East, 3 trips of Witkoff, days on tireless brainstorming, discussing details, counting future revenue to cover "UA grants", press conferences etc. 

Please take it seriously - that's a hell of a job

 

Get real: donkey is not willing to drink water from the pond. Donkey wants Coca-Cola

 

[NoDisplayName]

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

This has been signed

 

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/404e9777d0fddace861e329e5e7b704bc67d0daa/31_10_1018_1208/master/1018.jpg?width=700&dpr=2&s=none&crop=none

 

 

 

Oh, my Lady Gaga!

 

"Memorandum of Intent"

 

NOW, THEREFORE, as evidenced by the signatures set forth below, the Government of the United States and the Government of Ukraine enter into this Memorandum of Intent to work expeditiously towards the completion of the necessary documents in order to finalize the agreement forging an economic partnership between the American and Ukrainian peoples and establishing a reconstruction investment fund.

 

In other words, they're going to establish a committee to consider implications of conducting a study into the feasibility of forming a group to waste some money on hookers and blow in Paris.

 

Damn!  Trump's been Minsk'd!

[NoDisplayName]

2 hours ago, John Drake said:

The country could not be in a bigger mess if things had been left to a chimpanzee banging on a keyboard to make decisions.

 

Why did you have to bring Harris into the discussion?

I thought we'd all moved on from word salad surgery.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, frank83628 said:

I has at least 1 son involved in the business

what do you mean?

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

what do you mean?

Would you want you son to continue your work? He has a son that is running things now.

[FriscoKid]

1 hour ago, papa al said:

Piers Morgan.?

You fancy him?

[JensenZ]

3 hours ago, FriscoKid said:

Simple questions: Trump didn't end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours as promised? Nor within 90 days? The prosecution rests its case.

LOL. Nobody, including Trump, believed that... yet you latch onto this "promise" so you can continue to whine about Trump forever and a day. At least he's been actively trying to find a solution. Perhaps Kamala could have done a better job?

 

I'm sure you and other members with <removed> are happy that he failed to bring peace within 24 hours or 90 days. 

 

 

[gejohesch]

4 hours ago, FriscoKid said:

Well, there you go. The stage has been set. The man who promised for months to end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours of taking office as president is now walking away, less than 90 days later, without any success at all. Zero. Nada. Giving up, throwing in the towel, exit stage left, and with nothing to show to the world as anything positive. The great deal and peacemaker. Always Winning!

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/rubio-russia-war-in-ukraine-us-talks-intl-hnk/index.html

 

 

 

Good riddance! The current USA administration has never been a sincere party in this affair, on the contrary, it has clearly displayed its sympathies for the Russian aggressors. The world will be better off not without them!

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The democrats mis-preparing Zelenskky for the meeting with Trump/Vance looks like intentional sabotage at this point. Did they issue a grovelling apology yet? All the death and destruction just because they are triggered by their own false narratives on Trump. Would be funny if it werent for all the gore.

Wow. Talk about missing the plot. 

[spidermike007]

Well a few things come to mind. Number one Trump is as far from a diplomat as any president has ever been, number two he has appointed nothing but low quality officials from the absolute bottom of the barrel with no diplomatic skills whatsoever, rather they are very skillful at insulting and bullying our allies and coddling up to our enemies, and number three we know that everything that comes out of Trump's mouth is a lie and is completely insincere. So when he said he would resolve the Ukraine issue many of us knew that was an outright lie, a political talking point that his followers believed along with a huge basket of other nonsense, such as lowering prices and bringing manufacturing back to America. Lies and more lies, just like everything else that comes out of his foul mouth. 

[cjinchiangrai]

One more chance for Trump to intervene on behalf of Russia. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Wow. Talk about missing the plot. 

Zelensky doing an extremely foolish big dog routine, the little Chihuahua yapping at the 2 calm but ready Pitbulls. He'd just been for a pep talk with Schumer and co. This stupidity scuttled the peace deal there and then. Poisoned the well. Made Ukraine a visibly weak and scared target. And you accuse me of missing the plot? Wow.

[FriscoKid]

39 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

LOL. Nobody, including Trump, believed that... yet you latch onto this "promise" so you can continue to whine about Trump forever and a day.

 

Wow, that has to be one of the most bizarre responses I’ve seen so far. A truly warped perspective. You’re essentially saying anyone who believed him was stupid, and honestly, I agree. It’s hard to argue with that. But are we really expected to just accept that presidential candidates will straight up lie about what they’re going to do? Your comments are on another level of delusion I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed. Rationalizing straight up lies because you are so brainwashed by his rhetoric. Unbelievable. You just can't find any fault with him at all, can you?

 

And as for your point about people wanting something to whine about with Trump every day, no, absolutely not. I would have praised him if he had ended the war on day one as promised or played any meaningful role in ending it even after 90 days. What I didn’t expect was for him to blatantly throw in the towel and just give up. That’s the part I never saw coming. I assumed he’d at least keep the lie going, pretend he was making progress, even if he wasn’t. But no, he just gave up, arms in the air. The guy’s an outright quitter.

 

He also immediately reversed course on several of his biggest tariff promises. Within a week, he canceled tariffs on smartphones, computer components, automobiles, and car parts, two major campaign promises already flushed. He claimed he’d reduce food prices and basic necessities, yet we’ve seen no sign of that. In fact, the indicators show costs are likely to rise with the tariffs. Meanwhile, he’s tanked my stock portfolio.

 

I could go on, but what’s the point? He’s a one-man disaster with clothes on.