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57 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Yes...shure....if you say it:cheesy:

I beleive its the Chinese Army saying it, but that would spoil your narrative

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On 4/25/2025 at 2:11 PM, LosLobo said:

Not quite — this isn’t China “capitulating” to Trump. If anything, Trump capitulated first. He talked tough on tariffs — phones, TVs, semiconductors — then walked them back when they hit U.S. consumers and businesses.
 

China’s response is a measured tit-for-tat, not surrender. Xi is easing tariffs to protect key sectors, not backing down — it’s tactical, not submissive.
 

Xi already played his ace with the rare earth export ban. The U.S. relies on rare earths for smartphones, EVs, F-35s, missiles — critical tech and defense gear. Replacing China’s supply dominance could take 5–10 years, even with heavy investment.

Until then, China holds the cards.

When you poke the bear… don’t be surprised if he doesn’t want to be your friend.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-25/china-dominates-rare-earths-leaving-trump-with-dud-hand/105213972

China doesn't have that long to wait. Without the American consumer to buy their junk, Xi will soon find out that he's not so popular any more.  It really is that simple.  Without the American consumer, China will fall apart, sooner rather than later. 

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On 4/25/2025 at 8:02 PM, LosLobo said:

China Tests New Non-Nuclear Hydrogen Bomb
 

China has tested a powerful new explosive that creates a white-hot fireball lasting over two seconds — about 15 times longer than a TNT blast.
 

The 2-kg device uses magnesium hydride to release hydrogen gas, producing intense heat above 1,000°C. While it generates less blast pressure than traditional bombs, its sustained thermal effect can melt metal and devastate equipment and infrastructure.
 

Compact, precise, and non-nuclear, this weapon fits modern warfare strategies with reduced collateral damage. China’s new production methods also make large-scale manufacturing possible, hinting at major military and civilian impacts.

 

Great news for my investment portfolio!

 

Should also go some ways to clearing out a couple billion useless eaters off the planet.

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4 minutes ago, jas007 said:

China doesn't have that long to wait. Without the American consumer to buy their junk, Xi will soon find out that he's not so popular any more.  It really is that simple.  Without the American consumer, China will fall apart, sooner rather than later. 

Its called the withdrawal of the Mandate of Heaven. The whole edifice is rotten, just need someone to kick it down.

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On 4/25/2025 at 10:17 AM, Yagoda said:

Xi is in trouble, as is China. When you need to remind the population that you govern by the Gun and the knife, there are stirrings in the country.

 

"A recent article from the official mouthpiece of the military, the PLA Daily, reminds readers that “our principle is that the Party commands the gun” (我们的原则是党指挥枪) (PLA Daily, March 10). Another from the Party’s primary newspaper, the People’s Daily, urges readers to “ensure that the ‘knife handle’ is firmly held in the hands of the Party and the people” (确保“刀把子”牢牢掌握在党和人民手中) (People’s Daily, January 12). The “gun” and the “knife handle” are metonyms for the Party’s two sources of hard power, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) and the domestic security apparatus. For over 18 months, Xi’s protégés—or at least people appointed under Xi—have been disappearing from leadership positions across these systems." https://jamestown.org/program/personnel-problems-are-becoming-personal-problems-for-xi-jinping/

 

You are either on the side of the "Gun and the Knife" or you arent. 

Funny. Your source the Jamestown Foundation is basically a neo-conservative stronghold. If someone were to cite them as a source to refute what you claim, doubtless you would discredit it on those grounds.

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28 minutes ago, jas007 said:

That's a good summation.  There's no free lunch and business as usual is a recipe for total collapse of the USA.  

 

Like Trump or not, he was the best alternative in the last election and he's doing what he's doing.  So, I hope it works. The alternative will be trouble, I'm afraid.

 

Most people posting here are well and truly brainwashed. And the spin doctors have done a good job in that regard. They have people all over the world believing that a Trump failure would be some kind of success. A big victory. Nothing could be further from the truth. Unless, of course, a bankrupt America and having no money is nirvana for them.  Let's hope they don't find out the hard way. 

 

In any event, they don't know what's about to hit them if Trump fails.  How many have assets aside from the pensions and Social Security checks?  What will they do when their US dollars become less and less valuable as the money printing spirals out of control?  Who are they going to call? 

 

There's simply no way a national debt of 36 trillion dollars and rising is sustainable.  You can't tax your way out of that, and the bond market will not sit back and watch while the spending spirals out of control.   It's now or never on fixing the problem. 

If Trump fails, it will be his fault, not his critics' fault....

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12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Funny. Your source the Jamestown Foundation is basically a neo-conservative stronghold. If someone were to cite them as a source to refute what you claim, doubtless you would discredit it on those grounds.

You have an argument with the translation? 

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On 4/25/2025 at 6:47 AM, Purdey said:

It does look like Xi is wiping the floor with Trump and forcing him to back down. It seems China holds the cards. I hope Canada, Mexico and the EU also stand up to the bully. Appeasement never works.


You mean like Makrons .E.U is trying to bully the U.K from becoming closer to the USA.

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57 minutes ago, jas007 said:

China doesn't have that long to wait. Without the American consumer to buy their junk, Xi will soon find out that he's not so popular any more.  It really is that simple.  Without the American consumer, China will fall apart, sooner rather than later. 

Though you seem to be doing your best to defend the party line, and to defend the Goombah, the bottom line is that Chinese electric cars, MacBook Pros, iPads, and iPhones are anything but junk. There's a lot of high quality stuff being made in China, by multinational companies all over the world, and Trump is in way over his head by declaring economic war on them. Oops. Didn't know they had so much conviction and will to fight a rather dull bully. 

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40 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Though you seem to be doing your best to defend the party line, and to defend the Goombah, the bottom line is that Chinese electric cars, MacBook Pros, iPads, and iPhones are anything but junk. There's a lot of high quality stuff being made in China, by multinational companies all over the world, and Trump is in way over his head by declaring economic war on them. Oops. Didn't know they had so much conviction and will to fight a rather dull bully. 

Apple can and will move their manufacturing to another country. Aren't they already in the process of doing that?  To India, to the USA, maybe elsewhere.  

 

I'm not sure what portion of China's total manufacturing capacity is for the USA, but both directly and indirectly, without the US consumer they're in big big trouble. Trump won't be folding on China anytime soon.  

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7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's not me who arbitrarily challenges mainstream sources.

Avoiding the question again. Typical.

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Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

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17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Avoiding the question again. Typical.

Right I'm the one who evaporates when I'm shown to be wrong. In this case my objection was to your double standards. As for the translation itself, I have no doubts it's true. But I'm not the one who repeatedly challenges news stories that offer specific evidence. I'm not the one who questions the authenticity of the report based on the news source  but doesn't offer counter evidence to support that claim. That would be you.

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3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As for the translation itself, I have no doubts it's true.

Then why are you arguing except to make it personal, troll?

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2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Then why are you arguing except to make it personal, troll?

It's not personal. Strictly about your modus operandi on the forum. In other words, there's evidence provided by you.

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1 minute ago, placeholder said:

It's not personal. Strictly about your modus operandi on the forum. In other words, there's evidence provided by you.

Translation: Its personal, thats why I follow you around flaming and trolling. 

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4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: Its personal, thats why I follow you around flaming and trolling. 

Finally, you confess. They say it's good for the soul. Especially for a deeply tarnished one.

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24 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: Its personal, thats why I follow you around flaming and trolling. 

As you do all the time with those that disagree with you.  There are a few of your type on AN at present with the same war cry when we do not act subservient to YOUR statements. 

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On 4/25/2025 at 4:58 AM, AndreasHG said:

One can only imagine the drama that would have unfolded on Wall Street and beyond, had Powell resigned in contempt for Trump’s public behavior.

 

Look what happened to Turkey's lira when Erdogan sacked his central bank chief.

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I remember an American uncle of mine telling me as I was shaping up for some adolescent punch up or other, ''No matter how big you are, there's always someone bigger.''

 

That's what. the US is beginning to find out as it faces off against a) China and b) the rest of the genuinely free world (its former allies).

 

Trump will also find that out when he is removed either overtly or covertly.

 

To be replaced by Vance/Thiel. That is the basic plan. For now Trump seems to be useful. At the latest when he is looking serious about a third term, Thiel et al will remove him because they want to appear constitutional.

 

Whenever that moment comes, Project 2025 will be implemented both effectively and competently, and in its entirety, and you will never get your democracy (lamentable as it was) back.

 

That is clearly their playbook.

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43 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

As you do all the time with those that disagree with you. 

Please show who I follow around and flame.

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4 hours ago, jas007 said:

China doesn't have that long to wait. Without the American consumer to buy their junk, Xi will soon find out that he's not so popular any more.  It really is that simple.  Without the American consumer, China will fall apart, sooner rather than later. 

In the 60's people were still mocking japan in the same way you are now mocking China, Just like them,, you are living in the past. China has an extremely advanced industrial base which makes lots of intermediate inputs crucial for American manufacturers.

 

Tariffs on Chinese-made machinery drive up costs for U.S. manufacturers
The U.S. economy depends on Chinese tools needed to make everything from cars to electronics in American factories...

Trump claims that his trade policies are necessary to seed a “golden age” of U.S. manufacturing, but trade experts and companies say the broad tariffs may actually complicate bringing back some industries. The U.S. economy not only is reliant on China for finished products like toys and laptops but also depends on Chinese tools to make everything from cars to electronics in American factories.

https://archive.ph/D0vmQ

 

China Has an Army of Robots on Its Side in the Tariff War

China’s secret weapon in the trade war is an army of factory robots, powered by artificial intelligence, that have revolutionized manufacturing.

Factories are being automated across China at a breakneck pace. With engineers and electricians tending to fleets of robots, these operations are bringing down the cost of manufacturing while improving quality.

As a result, China’s factories will be able to keep the price of many of its exports lower, giving it an advantage in fighting the trade war and President Trump’s high tariffs.

https://archive.ph/gA65L

 

The United States has trade leverage with China, but not as much as Washington thinks

The United States has diversified its imports away from China for low value-added goods such as bedding, mattresses, and furniture. But diversification is proving far harder for higher value-added goods.

To understand why the incoming Trump administration is going to face a dilemma on how to execute its new tariffs, see our analysis on the top goods the United States is importing from China:

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/econographics/sinographs/the-united-states-has-trade-leverage-with-china-but-not-as-much-as-washington-thinks/

 

New Study Shows China Leading in Dozens of Critical Technologies

China has surged ahead of America in 37 of 44 categories of critical technologies, a comprehensive new report finds, and in some cases China is approaching a near-dominant position in that technology. American policymakers at all levels need to act quickly upon these findings, as China’s technology gains could fundamentally shift geopolitical power and influence to the authoritarian nation and away from the United States.

The report, published by the respected Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI), examined 2.2 million data points for nine strategically important technology categories. China has significant leads in advanced materials and manufacturing, energy, biotechnology, sensors, and certain elements of artificial intelligence (AI), while the United States leads in design and development of advanced microchips, quantum computing, and vaccines. The countries are roughly tied in the defense/space category.

https://americanedgeproject.org/new-study-shows-china-leading-in-dozens-of-critical-technologies/

 

 

China Has an Army of Robots on Its Side in the Tariff War

China’s secret weapon in the trade war is an army of factory robots, powered by artificial intelligence, that have revolutionized manufacturing.

Factories are being automated across China at a breakneck pace. With engineers and electricians tending to fleets of robots, these operations are bringing down the cost of manufacturing while improving quality.

As a result, China’s factories will be able to keep the price of many of its exports lower, giving it an advantage in fighting the trade war and President Trump’s high tariffs.

https://archive.ph/gA65L

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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