The COVID Scamdemic and its link to 'Scientism'

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

One question; how many lives saved by vaccination? Go to excess mortality in this connection.

Being a medical doctor I was involved to administer the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine to elderly and old people in nursing homes and Health Centers. With a very good feeling.

Enjoy your day.

I am an SAS sniper too

[impulse]

19 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

So you're a "medical doctor" are you? Love to see your qualifications. Your posts certainly do not read as someone that is highly educated.

 

I stayed in a Holiday Inn last night. 

 

But I think you'd have to have watched American TV to get that reference.

 

[newbee2022]

30 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I am an SAS sniper too

What?😱

[newbee2022]

35 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

So you're a "medical doctor" are you? Love to see your qualifications. Your posts certainly do not read as someone that is highly educated.

I'm sorry not to fulfill your expectations🤣

[Lacessit]

According to these data, there are 20 million people still recovering from COVID. What's the betting the vast majority of those were not vaccinated?

 

All I see on this thread are daft opinions, no facts or data. Anti-science, poorly educated.

[frank83628]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

According to these data, there are 20 million people still recovering from COVID. What's the betting the vast majority of those were not vaccinated?

 

All I see on this thread are daft opinions, no facts or data. Anti-science, poorly educated.

The number are not exactly correct though are they, its common knowledge that deaths 'with' covid were marked as covid a death despite the peson having preexisting conditions, in the UK it was any death within 28 days of  positive covid test.

Actual deaths of only covid were far less.

Anti science... no, its called questioning what you're told,

6ft distancing was not science, it was made up by fauci

Taking the vaccines stops the spread of covid was not science

Pandemic of the unvaccinated was not science.

 

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

The number are not exactly correct though are they, its common knowledge that deaths 'with' covid were marked as covid a death despite the peson having preexisting conditions, in the UK it was any death within 28 days of  positive covid test.

Actual deaths of only covid were far less.

Anti science... no, its called questioning what you're told,

6ft distancing was not science, it was made up by fauci

Taking the vaccines stops the spread of covid was not science

Pandemic of the unvaccinated was not science.

 

The USA is 4.2% of the world's population. It had 17.4% of the total COVID deaths.

 

Even the red states managed to have higher rates of infection than blue states.

 

Australia had one of the lowest death tolls, with the protocols it used to prevent infection.

 

If you can't connect the dots from there, no point in further discussion.

 

 

[frank83628]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The USA is 4.2% of the world's population. It had 17.4% of the total COVID deaths.

 

Even the red states managed to have higher rates of infection than blue states.

 

Australia had one of the lowest death tolls, with the protocols it used to prevent infection.

 

If you can't connect the dots from there, no point in further discussion.

 

 

How can there be any real discussion when deaths were incorrectly counted

There is a difference between dying with covid, or of covid.

[johng]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

According to these data, there are 20 million people still recovering from COVID. What's the betting the vast majority of those were not vaccinated?

 

I would bet that most of these long Covid sufferers are actually vaccine injured.

[jas007]

9 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

How can there be any real discussion when deaths were incorrectly counted

There is a difference between dying with covid, or of covid.

He doesn't understand.  He's got some numbers that he thinks prove his case, but fails to realize the numbers don't really tell the whole story.  

 

Was the testing even valid?

 

How were the deaths counted?  

 

And that's just the beginning. He want's to talk about people "recovering" from COVID?  But what does that mean, really?  Maybe their "long COVID" is simply an immune system destroyed by the jabs?  Anyway, without knowing who was really infected and who wasn't, it's all just conjecture. Pick some numbers that correlate with your theory and tell everyone to "connect the dots." 

 

 

 

 

[johng]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

tell everyone to "connect the dots." 

[impulse]

14 minutes ago, jas007 said:

How were the deaths counted?  

 

I think they took the hospital total bonuses and divided by $20,000.

 

[dinsdale]

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I'm sorry not to fulfill your expectations🤣

You say you are a "medical doctor". Ok. Please explain how the mRNA "vaccine works". Tell us if it's localized in the injection site (you of course know where this is because you've said you're a doctor) or does it spread systemically? Maybe you could start with what systemically means in this context and give us an answer. When you got your jab was it aspirated or not and what country did you get your jabs in? Do you know what aspirating an injection is? If you do please share. Again you are a "medical doctor" so you won't need Google to answer this for you. Very simple questions. Eagerly awaiting your replies. Next I might you ask more medically difficult questions such as in does the mRNA "vaccine" have an affect on the myocardial lining of the heart and if so why? As a "doctor" you should be able to answer this question easily. No Google search required. Can you answer the above or is the "I'm a medical doctor" thing just complete trolling BS and you have a mental problem? Tell us all what you have studied or are you being completely ingenuous, a total fraud, a liar and simply a pitiful troll by saying you're a doctor. If the latter is the case you need take a long hard look at yourself as you've obviously lost the plot. 

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, johng said:

 

I would bet that most of these long Covid sufferers are actually vaccine injured.

You've obviously not been acquainted with Paracelsus.

 

There are a plenitude of peer-reviewed studies indicating vaccinated people are significantly less likely to suffer from long COVID than unvaccinated people.

 

Please post a PEER-REVIEWED study of injury caused by COVID vaccines.

[Lacessit]

42 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You say you are a "medical doctor". Ok. Please explain how the mRNA "vaccine works". Tell us if it's localized in the injection site (you of course know where this is because you've said you're a doctor) or does it spread systemically? Maybe you could start with what systemically means in this context and give us an answer. When you got your jab was it aspirated or not and what country did you get your jabs in? Do you know what aspirating an injection is? If you do please share. Again you are a "medical doctor" so you won't need Google to answer this for you. Very simple questions. Eagerly awaiting your replies. Next I might you ask more medically difficult questions such as in does the mRNA "vaccine" have an affect on the myocardial lining of the heart and if so why? As a "doctor" you should be able to answer this question easily. No Google search required. Can you answer the above or is the "I'm a medical doctor" thing just complete trolling BS and you have a mental problem? Tell us all what you have studied or are you being completely ingenuous, a total fraud, a liar and simply a pitiful troll by saying you're a doctor. If the latter is the case you need take a long hard look at yourself as you've obviously lost the plot. 

So have you, if you don't know the difference between ingenuous and disingenuous.

[johng]

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You've obviously not been acquainted with Paracelsus.

 You were talking about bets,    no I'm not acquainted with Paracelsus  I'm guessing some Greek philosopher  ? way past my time   did he like to bet too ?

[dinsdale]

23 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So have you, if you don't know the difference between ingenuous and disingenuous.

You are either a troll or a bot as you cannot answer simple direct questions. I will ask this question again. Did you get jabbed and where did you get jabbed as in what country. Very easy and no deflection required. Here's an example answer: Yes/Thailand. As for my slip (yep disingenuous not ingenuous) this is just a pitiful deflection. You answered none of the questions and you have exposed yourself as being a liar by claiming you're a  "medical doctor", Disgraceful.

[Lacessit]

17 minutes ago, johng said:

 You were talking about bets,    no I'm not acquainted with Paracelsus  I'm guessing some Greek philosopher  ? way past my time   did he like to bet too ?

Paracelsus originated the medical maxim "The dose makes the poison".

 

He is known as the Father of Toxicology.

 

Use Google, you can further your education.

[Lacessit]

15 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You are either a troll or a bot as you cannot answer simple direct questions. I will ask this question again. Did you get jabbed and where did you get jabbed as in what country. Very easy and no deflection required. Here's an example answer: Yes/Thailand. As for my slip (yep disingenuous not ingenuous) this is just a pitiful deflection. You answered none of the questions and you have exposed yourself as being a liar by claiming you're a  "medical doctor", Disgraceful.

You really are losing the plot if you have confused me with newbee2022.

[johng]

18 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Please post a PEER-REVIEWED study of injury caused by COVID vaccines.

 

Look them up yourself     "peer reviewed"  right up there with Google and Wikipedia as now discredited sources of information  this "pandemic"  has shown them for what they are   biased, corrupt ,bought and paid for  shills .

 

Just look at the insurance company claims  and vaccine injury reporting sites to see...but  but  correlation does not necessarily mean causation.

 

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

He is known as the Father of Toxicology.

How very apt for a discussion about  "Covid vaccines"

[xylophone]

On 4/30/2025 at 3:38 PM, jas007 said:

Some people think it was the masks and the resulting bacterial infections that did most of the damage back then, not the "flu."  

 

Anyway, apples and oranges. The COVID thing was most definitely planned.  All of it.  In 1918, the authorities were just stupid, as usual. 

[Lacessit]

Just now, johng said:

 

Look them up yourself     "peer reviewed"  right up there with Google and Wikipedia as now discredited sources of information  this "pandemic"  has shown them for what they are   biased, corrupt ,bought and paid for  shills .

 

Just look at the insurance company claims  and vaccine injury reporting sites to see...but  but  correlation does not necessarily mean causation.

 

How very apt for a discussion about  "Covid vaccines"

Are you sure your tin hat is not too tight for you?

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

You say you are a "medical doctor". Ok. Please explain how the mRNA "vaccine works". Tell us if it's localized in the injection site (you of course know where this is because you've said you're a doctor) or does it spread systemically? Maybe you could start with what systemically means in this context and give us an answer. When you got your jab was it aspirated or not and what country did you get your jabs in? Do you know what aspirating an injection is? If you do please share. Again you are a "medical doctor" so you won't need Google to answer this for you. Very simple questions. Eagerly awaiting your replies. Next I might you ask more medically difficult questions such as in does the mRNA "vaccine" have an affect on the myocardial lining of the heart and if so why? As a "doctor" you should be able to answer this question easily. No Google search required. Can you answer the above or is the "I'm a medical doctor" thing just complete trolling BS and you have a mental problem? Tell us all what you have studied or are you being completely ingenuous, a total fraud, a liar and simply a pitiful troll by saying you're a doctor. If the latter is the case you need take a long hard look at yourself as you've obviously lost the plot. 

Gibberish Gibberish Gibberish.

You seem to be derailed. The heat?

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You really are losing the plot if you have confused me with newbee2022.

Fk! Sorry. My absolute and total apologies. @newbee2022 please note that my error posts to @Lacessit they were for you(still waiting for answers) @Lacessit sorry mate. Mind you your posts are very similar to @newbee2022. For example: "Please post a PEER-REVIEWED study of injury caused by COVID vaccines." This is just a 100% blinkered comment. The facts are that mRNA jabs have been directly linked, i.e. the cause of deaths, by coroners. This is a medical determination made in a Coroner's Court which of course is a court of law. mRNA deaths and injuries plus excess death data is out there. Sheeple like you simply won't question the narrative and think for yourself.

 

[johng]

19 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Are you sure your tin hat is not too tight for you?

 

I'm not wearing it today thanks for asking...perhaps you dispute that there is a problem with the peer review system as it stands...you also trust emphatically the results from Google and Wikipedia..how about CNN ?

[jas007]

14 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Gibberish Gibberish Gibberish.

You seem to be derailed. The heat?

I have to agree with dinsdale.  You don't seem to know what you're talking about or refuse to answer questions you don't like.

 

You have yet to respond to my question about the DNA sequence patented by Moderna in 2016.  

 

And while you're thinking about that, maybe you should look up which US government department or agencies bought and paid for Moderna's gain of function research beginning in 2011.  

 

There's currently some ongoing litigation about the ownership of the patents, but rest assured, the research was bought and paid for by the US government.  

 

I could go on all day about that, but I think it would be over your head. 

[rattlesnake]

32 minutes ago, johng said:

 

I'm not wearing it today thanks for asking...perhaps you dispute that there is a problem with the peer review system as it stands...you also trust emphatically the results from Google and Wikipedia..how about CNN ?

 

Indeed. "Peer-reviewed" ultimately just means a bunch a guys publicly took a cohesive stance. And in perhaps the most corrupt and influence-peddling systems ever to exist, well, let's say that stance is of limited relevance to say the least.

[dinsdale]

15 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Gibberish Gibberish Gibberish.

You seem to be derailed. The heat?

Deflection again. You said you're a "medical doctor" This is quite obviously a lie. Why would you say this? Mind you Katy Perry thinks she's an astronaut. 

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I have to agree with dinsdale.  You don't seem to know what you're talking about or refuse to answer questions you don't like.

 

You have yet to respond to my question about the DNA sequence patented by Moderna in 2016.  

 

And while you're thinking about that, maybe you should look up which US government department or agencies bought and paid for Moderna's gain of function research beginning in 2011.  

 

There's currently some ongoing litigation about the ownership of the patents, but rest assured, the research was bought and paid for by the US government.  

 

I could go on all day about that, but I think it would be over your head. 

A troll, a bot or a complete idiot. I can't think of any other options. 1 & 3 is my guess. The other option I guess could be a child.

[dinsdale]

14 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Inedded. "Peer-reviewed" ultimately just means a bunch a guys publicly took a cohesive stance. And in perhaps the most corrupt and influence-peddling systems ever to exist, well, let's say that stance is of limited relevance to say the least.

No it's not. Not when it comes to independent science.