Noravirus is far worse.

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Straight from the book of he who got a pre-emptive pardon. Just pitiful. It's no longer 2020 mate. Eyes and minds have been opened. Sadly yours remains firmly closed.

 

Tell me you have no training in  public health data analysis without telling me.

On 5/19/2025 at 7:26 AM, lordgrinz said:

I would rather have a cold or Flu over being infected with this nasty Chinese bioweapon any day!

 

Careful with the racism now.

 

</sarcasm>

18 hours ago, Zakhar said:

I am surprised that the ineffective  Faucci mask is back. Pandemic Treaty is being signed and prepare for new vaccines.  Pharma needs money

 

I for one am not.

 

Most folk love their woke prisons and lockdowns.

 

As for new vaxxxines, that's okay, I won't be taking any but I hope billions do so I can watch my stocks portfolio get fatter.

 

"Yes I can - if Fauch says it's okay!"

13 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

Even if they did work - so what? Wearing a filthy mask all your life, restricting your breathing and oxygen intake, making you look like a mutinous dog - all to avoid a virus that will just leave you with a slight fever for a couple of days. It is literally the worst trade-off in human history, yet so many morons willingly partake in it - mostly because they are either thick or total cowards.

 

It's an unconscious symbolic token of surrender of the Profane to our Overlords.

 

Masked = gagged = voiceless = dehumanised.

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Tell me you have no training in  public health data analysis without telling me.

What's that got to do with it. What I do have is the ability to think for myself and to think critically unlike the sheeple who believe everything they're told by the MSM.

On 5/19/2025 at 6:44 PM, ukrules said:

 

Yeah - which is nearly everybody who gets ill.

School children just stay home.

8 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

Not as sad as you wearing a mask your whole life over something that will make you feel a little bit pooey for 3 days max. I mean, if a mask protected you from cancer, I could understand wearing it. But spending your whole life hiding your face in public, not breathing clearly for an endemic dieasase. Just pathetic. Man up you big wimp.

Where are you living these days?

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What's that got to do with it. What I do have is the ability to think for myself and to think critically unlike the sheeple who believe everything they're told by the MSM.

Conspiracy loon.

12 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Conspiracy loon.

Yep. Covid wasn't made in a lab and the "vaccines" are safe and effective. You are free to delude yourself in believing this and to call anyone who doesn't a "Conspiracy loon". Of course such freedoms to say it was made in a lab and that the jabs can cause harm were not given on many platforms with posts removed.

6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Tell me you have no training in  public health data analysis without telling me.

You dont need a B.sc. in bs to smell it.

19 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

On a more general point - what's happened to the member (the bloke with the masked dog avatar) who used to bombard AN and these Covid threads with reams of stats and doom and gloom projections? 

They were all AI generated doom n gloom posts no? 

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

What's that got to do with it. What I do have is the ability to think for myself and to think critically unlike the sheeple who believe everything they're told by the MSM.

 

It has everything to do with "it".   It is wonderful that you can think for yourself, whatever that means. The reality though is that you rely on unsubstantiated claims and misinformation that circulates on the internet, hosted by a various entities that range form crackpots, to those with a vested financial interest in promoting "alternative" healthcare, to people and groups who wish to sow discord and civil unrest. You dismiss people who disagree with you as "sheeple" and regurgitate the nonsensical claim that "main stream media" is an enemy entity conspiring against you.

 

You are unable to comprehend the clinical trials and the health data. If you had above average intelligence, and some formal education in the sciences, you would be able to understand the documentation. Instead, as a coping mechanism to a problem that you find overwhelming, you fall back on a simplistic explanations of conspiracies.  You embrace  the pseudo science because it does not require thinking. It is presented in easy to digest format  easily distributed on social media, with  phrases and soundbites that the simple minded can follow.

 

 

16 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

I came back for a couple of weeks recently. Now, I just lead a nomadic lifestyle, traveling to different places every few months. At the beginning of the year, I was in Central America - Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua e.t.c and wow, what a contrast, no masks to be seen anywhere, and people were so sincere and friendly. Thailand used to be like this, but masks are a total vibe killer and make a mockery of its 'Land of Smiles' tagline. In fact, it is actually rather insulting to other countries for them to cling onto to this, since other countries are far more deserving of this title.

Sounds great. Thailand has tunred ino a joke in many ways over the past 10 years. I visited Vietnam the other week, was my first time there after living in Thailand for nearly 12 years. people always told me that Vietnam was not friendly like Thailand, but in actual fact, i found the people there to be friendly, and far less immature than people here in TH. Another thing i noticed is that the younger generation of Viets were super easy to have conversations with as their level of maturity appread to be quite high along with their English skills. 

Just now, Patong2021 said:

 

It has everything to do with "it".   It is wonderful that you can think for yourself, whatever that means. The reality though is that you rely on unsubstantiated claims and misinformation that circulates on the internet, hosted by a various entities that range form crackpots, to those with a vested financial interest in promoting "alternative" healthcare, to people and groups who wish to sow discord and civil unrest. You dismiss people who disagree with you as "sheeple" and regurgitate the nonsensical claim that "main stream media" is an enemy entity conspiring against you.

 

You are unable to comprehend the clinical trials and the health data. If you had above average intelligence, and some formal education in the sciences, you would be able to understand the documentation. Instead, as a coping mechanism to a problem that you find overwhelming, you fall back on a simplistic explanations of conspiracies.  You embrace  the pseudo science because it does not require thinking. It is presented in easy to digest format  easily distributed on social media, with  phrases and soundbites that the simple minded can follow.

 

 

There are studies and figures from sources funded by big pharma and thsn there independent scorces not funded by biv pharma. You only believe what the narrative allows. Those of us with critical thinkinv skills look beyond the narrative pushed by MSM.

20 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

On a more general point - what's happened to the member (the bloke with the masked dog avatar) who used to bombard AN and these Covid threads with reams of stats and doom and gloom projections? 

 

 

Covid-19's XEC Variant Spreads Like Wildfire, Says Thai Health Ministry

 

File photo courtesy of Photo: Xinhua/VNA

 

The alarming spread of the XEC variant of Covid-19 has put the Public Health Ministry on high alert as the virus is reportedly spreading seven times faster than the common flu. A concerted effort led by Minister Somsak Thepsuthin aims to safeguard vulnerable groups, while also keeping a vigilant eye on its proliferation in schools throughout the nation.

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1361274-covid-19s-xec-variant-spreads-like-wildfire-says-thai-health-ministry/

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Covid-19's XEC Variant Spreads Like Wildfire, Says Thai Health Ministry

 

File photo courtesy of Photo: Xinhua/VNA

 

The alarming spread of the XEC variant of Covid-19 has put the Public Health Ministry on high alert as the virus is reportedly spreading seven times faster than the common flu. A concerted effort led by Minister Somsak Thepsuthin aims to safeguard vulnerable groups, while also keeping a vigilant eye on its proliferation in schools throughout the nation.

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1361274-covid-19s-xec-variant-spreads-like-wildfire-says-thai-health-ministry/

Oh dear! Time to panic.  XEC will simply become the dominant sub-variant of Omicron which in turn will be replaced by another sub-variant. This is the evolutionary process of Omicron.

"The good news is that so far there is no evidence that XEC causes different symptoms or more severe disease than other recent strains—although a COVID infection is always a concern for certain people, including those who are older or immunocompromised."

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/3-things-to-know-about-xec-the-latest-covid-strain

So just another non severe variant for the vast majority of humans. As for the transmissibility this is how it becomes the dominant variant.  

9 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

 

I for one am not.

 

Most folk love their woke prisons and lockdowns.

 

As for new vaxxxines, that's okay, I won't be taking any but I hope billions do so I can watch my stocks portfolio get fatter.

 

"Yes I can - if Fauch says it's okay!"

The thing about "new vaxxxines" is that they are in reality old vaccines. New variants spread rapidly and are then replaced. No way the jab juice can keep up.

38 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Oh dear! Time to panic.  XEC will simply become the dominant sub-variant of Omicron which in turn will be replaced by another sub-variant. This is the evolutionary process of Omicron.

"The good news is that so far there is no evidence that XEC causes different symptoms or more severe disease than other recent strains—although a COVID infection is always a concern for certain people, including those who are older or immunocompromised."

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/3-things-to-know-about-xec-the-latest-covid-strain

So just another non severe variant for the vast majority of humans. As for the transmissibility this is how it becomes the dominant variant.  

Only Thais and other East Asians are still easily spooked by these kinds of articles - the average person in Europe could not give two hoots about any type of new variant, they just want to enjoy their lives.

17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Let me guess, you didn’t wear a mask and were infected?

Certainly didn't wear a mask for 5  years, never during sex or whilst riding my motorcycle.

Only very begrudgingly whilst it was mandated by law in Thailand  threats of 6000 baht fine but mostly only really needed 100% to go into shopping malls  where comically you could sit down in a  restaurant with your mask on until the food arrived and then remove the mask to eat !!!!   I stayed at home for most of that period it was peak stupidity.

 

Suspect I was infected 3 times, tested only once it was negative.

so who knows ???

 

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Oh dear! Time to panic.  XEC will simply become the dominant sub-variant of Omicron which in turn will be replaced by another sub-variant. This is the evolutionary process of Omicron.

"The good news is that so far there is no evidence that XEC causes different symptoms or more severe disease than other recent strains—although a COVID infection is always a concern for certain people, including those who are older or immunocompromised."

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/3-things-to-know-about-xec-the-latest-covid-strain

So just another non severe variant for the vast majority of humans. As for the transmissibility this is how it becomes the dominant variant.  

No need to panic.

it is just an airborne thing.

Masks reduce it by 95%.

It isn’t too hard for you to wear a mask is it? Or are you a snowflake.

 

21 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

No, I meant your immune system doesn't seem up to par and that's exacerbating the illness.

My last vaccination(7th Pfizer/Biontech) was a year before my last trip  Dec 2023, I should have had an 8th vaccination just before this trip Dec 2024, but didn´t bother as I thought I had enough protection already! 😏

I then read somewhere that the vax by Pfizer/Biontech lasts for 6 months only, so you must update with new vaccinations every 6 months to have a good protection.

The trip before last 2023 I had my vax just a month before I went to Thailand, and although I did get Covid it only lasted for 4-5 days!

So, I do think that because I didn´t get an updated vax for about one year, that made me much sicker when I caught again Covid this time! 🤒

Next year I will be sure to get a vaccination before I go back to Thailand! 

On 5/20/2025 at 2:24 AM, NICKMONDO1 said:

I really wish they would just shut up talking about this ridiculous subject.

just forget it and get on with life for goodness sake.

dont they think we have suffered enough from all this ridiculous bs?

I bet the ones who died wished they'd taken you advice.

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

It has everything to do with "it".   It is wonderful that you can think for yourself, whatever that means. The reality though is that you rely on unsubstantiated claims and misinformation that circulates on the internet, hosted by a various entities that range form crackpots, to those with a vested financial interest in promoting "alternative" healthcare, to people and groups who wish to sow discord and civil unrest. You dismiss people who disagree with you as "sheeple" and regurgitate the nonsensical claim that "main stream media" is an enemy entity conspiring against you.

 

You are unable to comprehend the clinical trials and the health data. If you had above average intelligence, and some formal education in the sciences, you would be able to understand the documentation. Instead, as a coping mechanism to a problem that you find overwhelming, you fall back on a simplistic explanations of conspiracies.  You embrace  the pseudo science because it does not require thinking. It is presented in easy to digest format  easily distributed on social media, with  phrases and soundbites that the simple minded can follow.

 

 

There weren't clinical trials,

the vaccines didn't stop the spread of covid and the lab leak theory is the most likely cause, as confirmed by FBI, CIA, its only FaucI that is still denying.

 

All things denied by those receiving millions from Pfizer and other pharmam corps.

 

Your whole comment is striaght from the pharma paid MSM script

its weak, gullible people like you that allowed the covid scam to go on for so long by believing every single thing the media told you, its people like you that turned on your neighbours, doctors, nurses, teachers, and anyone else that didn't want to be forced into a jab

 

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

There weren't clinical trials,

the vaccines didn't stop the spread of covid and the lab leak theory is the most likely cause, as confirmed by FBI, CIA, its only FaucI that is still denying.

 

All things denied by those receiving millions from Pfizer and other pharmam corps.

 

Your whole comment is striaght from the pharma paid MSM script

its weak, gullible people like you that allowed the covid scam to go on for so long by believing every single thing the media told you, its people like you that turned on your neighbours, doctors, nurses, teachers, and anyone else that didn't want to be forced into a jab

 

 

You have just demonstrated the wilful intent of spreading false and/or misleading  misinformation.

You say there were no clinical trials: Aside from the fact that the mRNA design and format had been in use for cancer therapies a decade prior, the clinical trials for the Comirnaty vaccine from Pfizer began in April 2020. The results were were overwhelmingly positive as of November 2020. Additional trials followed. Because the results were so good, the approval to use was granted in December 2020, with a rollout in mid 2021. The timeline of the clinical trials is well documented.

The Spikevax vaccine from Moderna had a similar timeline with multiple clinical trials starting in March 2020. The results were so good that  approval was granted in December 2020. Rollout was in mid 2021.

 

The vaccines were the reason why people stopped dying in the tens of thousands and why the economy  was able to recover so quickly. Vaccinated people were less likely to be hospitalized and were able to recover faster than the unvaccinated. The healthcare systems were  collapsing until the vaccine was introduced. 

 

And again you offer the  canard of this being a  MSM conspiracy. It is tiresome. You make the claim, but are unable to offer a factual basis to  support the claim. All you have are Russian propaganda  disinformation  claims. You are like an AI derived troll agent. You have the same talking points every time you post.

11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

There are studies and figures from sources funded by big pharma and thsn there independent scorces not funded by biv pharma. You only believe what the narrative allows. Those of us with critical thinkinv skills look beyond the narrative pushed by MSM.

 

None of which you write is accurate. Who or what is this  "big pharma"?  

A pharmaceutical drug maker is obligated by law to submit clinical  information to support the use of a new product. The  sponsor is obligated to pay the costs of the trials. Trials are conducted under an ethical  requirements framework. Surely, you are not espousing the  socialist concept of the state  sponsoring and paying for everything?

 

You do not have critical thinking skills because you  do not understand  how  drugs are developed and approved. Nor do you understand how  clinical trials are designed, carried out, analyzed and regulated. And again this is most likely  reflection of  limited education and/or intelligence level. 

 

It is time the ignorant and malicious people who make  false claims and who spread  false information with a malicious intent were held accountable. Ideally, I would like people like you to be identified and then forced to take  responsibility for your false claims, sued into financial oblivion.

21 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

 

 

The vaccines were the reason why people stopped dying in the tens of thousands and why the economy  was able to recover so quickly. Vaccinated people were less likely to be hospitalized and were able to recover faster than the unvaccinated. The healthcare systems were  collapsing until the vaccine was introduced. 

 

 

THe vaccines probably prevented millions of deaths but not 100% sure.  We could have just locked down all old unhealthy people, diabetics, and obese while the rest of society lived a semi normal existance.  Childhood obesity skyrocketed during the lockdown and hasn't stopped climbing. Lockdowns were  terrible and weren't needed for this virus.

 

BTW, the global economy didn't recover quickly.  Are you from the USA? Most the world has struggled since the Covid.

On 5/20/2025 at 7:27 PM, Patong2021 said:

 

Sure.  And one can surmise that you are an elderly western male of lower income, limited education and at best average intelligence, but most likely, below average. 

 

You people crease me up laughing. Not that it's any of your business, I just turned 70 so you got one thing right. I have enough money to live until I am 100 if I never have a further penny income. I have an honours degree in Chemical Engineering from 1977 when a degree was actually worth something, and the last time I had an IQ test it was 145. I can therefore surmise that you are a person with sheep like tendencies who believes everything they read and hear in the MSM. Perhaps if you widen your intellectual horizons you might lead a better and more free life just like I do in this wonderful country

20 hours ago, frank83628 said:

There weren't clinical trials,

the vaccines didn't stop the spread of covid and the lab leak theory is the most likely cause, as confirmed by FBI, CIA, its only FaucI that is still denying.

 

All things denied by those receiving millions from Pfizer and other pharmam corps.

 

Your whole comment is striaght from the pharma paid MSM script

its weak, gullible people like you that allowed the covid scam to go on for so long by believing every single thing the media told you, its people like you that turned on your neighbours, doctors, nurses, teachers, and anyone else that didn't want to be forced into a jab

 

you need to read bad science by Ben Goldacre before you comment.