Trump’s new position on the war in Ukraine: Not my problem

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Trump had famously promised during the campaign that he would bring about peace between Russia and Ukraine in 24 hours – portraying it as easy work for a master negotiator!

 

“If the ceasefire is not respected, the US and its partners will impose further sanctions,” he wrote on Truth Social on May 8, after a call with Zelenskyy. He reiterated that stance in a call with Prime Minister Keir Starmer of Britain, President Emmanuel Macron of France and Chancellor Friedrich Merz of Germany, when they travelled to Kyiv 10 days ago and set a deadline for Putin to sign the ceasefire agreement.

 

But after Trump’s call with Putin on Monday, those commitments evaporated. The American President declined, both in public and in his call with the European leaders, to follow up on that threat.

 

Trump told President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine and other European leaders after his call with Putin that Russia and Ukraine would have to find a solution to the war themselves, just days after saying that only he and Putin had the power to broker a deal.

 

Their account sheds light on Trump’s decision to throw up his hands when it comes to a peace process that he had previously promised to resolve in just 24 hours. And, unless he again reverses course, Monday’s developments left Putin with exactly what he wanted: not only an end to American pressure, but the creation of a deep fissure inside the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, between the Americans and their traditional European allies, who say they are going ahead with sanctions anyway

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/trumps-new-position-on-the-war-in-ukraine-not-my-problem/4LLNJN7LMBHJFBQX563Z7YTJLU/

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In the past other folks have said that perhaps Putin has got something over Trump, mainly because of Trump's inability to be able to "negotiate successfully" with Putin and this seems to point in that direction?

 

Whatever the reason, it's very evident that Trump is no "master negotiator" in any way, shape or form, and it also lends credence to the saying that Putin is playing with Trump and that Putin is playing chess, whilst Trump is playing checkers; the only problem being that Trump does not know exactly what he is playing! 

 

So it looks like trump couldn't stop the Russia/ukraine war in 24 hours, nor the Israel/Palestinian conflict as he stated that he could.........so full of it!! LOL.

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Risk averse cos of his dementia and other health problems

[billd766]

On 5/21/2025 at 3:28 PM, xylophone said:

In the past other folks have said that perhaps Putin has got something over Trump, mainly because of Trump's inability to be able to "negotiate successfully" with Putin and this seems to point in that direction?

 

Whatever the reason, it's very evident that Trump is no "master negotiator" in any way, shape or form, and it also lends credence to the saying that Putin is playing with Trump and that Putin is playing chess, whilst Trump is playing checkers; the only problem being that Trump does not know exactly what he is playing! 

 

So it looks like trump couldn't stop the Russia/ukraine war in 24 hours, nor the Israel/Palestinian conflict as he stated that he could.........so full of it!! LOL.

Now isn't that a surprise.

 

I don't think that anybody saw that coming.

[johng]

On 5/21/2025 at 3:28 PM, xylophone said:

So it looks like trump couldn't stop the Russia/ukraine war in 24 hours, nor the Israel/Palestinian conflict as he stated that he could.........so full of it!! LOL.

They would both end pretty quick if the US stopped sending military hardware and intelligence.

But for “some reason“ they don't/won't/can't.

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On 5/22/2025 at 12:09 PM, johng said:

They would both end pretty quick if the US stopped sending military hardware and intelligence.

But for “some reason“ they don't/won't/can't.

 

Ditto China, Iran. DPRK, but you never criticise them, and call upon then to stop supporting the Russian war marchine for "some reason". I saw the same during the Cold War; those Soviet apologists, like Jeremy Corbyn, Diane Abbott, John McDonnell and Tahir Ali,  constantly excusing the Soviets and always blaming the West. They have natural successors, who instead of tuning into Radio Moscow each night, instead, switch on their VPN, and watch RT because its "the truth".

 

US military hardware is now less important than in 2022; BAE is now independant of US imports of nitroglycerine, through process changes, European production has scaled up, but also Ukrainian industry has increased. Both sides are facing front line shortages, but that seems to be down to not actual production and depot replenishment, but due to logistics. Russian logistics, from their factories in the far east, are degrading.

 

Intelligence is another matter. RAF Rivet Joint patrols (UK version of the RC-135W) continue to supply data to the Ukrainian military, which helps with better targetting. However, even though the data is captured by the RAF, some of it is filtered through the US, as a NATO ally, and then spat back out. The US is at times actively now denying such data to a NATO ally. That doesn't mean the data stops, but it becomes less refined, less precise.