Beating children

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, hotsun said:

My experience was in bangkok, at a regular thai daycare, similar to all the others

 

   Where were the abusers from ?

Thai villages as I described ?

 

[hotsun]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Where were the abusers from ?

Thai villages as I described ?

 

Possibly. How many people in bangkok were born there vs the ones whove travelled from the sticks?

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, hotsun said:

Possibly. How many people in bangkok were born there vs the ones whove travelled from the sticks?

Ask AI:

 

[hotsun]

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Ask AI:

 

Im thinking schools and daycares arent that picky here about who they hire

[Barnet1900]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah actually in retrospect that was not a fair statement as I have never even been there.

But clearly if child-beating still takes place, it's a problem. But then again, does child-beating take place in Bangkok too? I don't know. 

But not fair of me to judge an entire place I've never even been to.

 

Takes place all over Thailand. Anyone thinking that beating children is a class thing need their heads testing.

 

Some of the richest, most affluent schools in the country kick buckets out of kids and with the parent's blessing in advance.

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, Barnet1900 said:

Takes place all over Thailand. Anyone thinking that beating children is a class thing need their heads testing.

 

Some of the richest, most affluent schools in the country kick buckets out of kids and with the parent's blessing in advance.

 

 

 

   Which schools are those ?

[Ralf001]

all kids desevre a slap up the side of the head.

[richard_smith237]

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

34 minutes ago, Barnet1900 said:

Some of the richest, most affluent schools in the country kick buckets out of kids and with the parent's blessing in advance.

 

 

   Which schools are those ?

 

indeed.....  Barnet clearly off his barnet with such a ridiculous statement... 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

all kids desevre a slap up the side of the head.

 

after all......................it never did you any harm....................did it Ralf 🤔

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

after all......................it never did you any harm....................did it Ralf 🤔

 

that's why he's into BDSM

[Barnet1900]

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

indeed.....  Barnet clearly off his barnet with such a ridiculous statement... 

 

 

How's it ridiculous? I have 100pc certainly on my side that it happens. If it's so ridiculous, go ask a Thai national if the big affluent schools invoke corporal punishment. I'm also certain you'll feel ridiculous. Alternatively, let's hear your proof that it doesn't happen.

 

I can't name names on here for obvious reasons but check, probably the most famous Thai school here, and check their policies on disciplinary measures. I can assure you from experience that they punish children physically and mentally. No parents complain because it's always been their way.

 

If that's not enough, you can PM me and I'll happily share all the details. The only condition being that you return to the thread and correct yourself.

 

If you think that they do it on a daily basis without the parent's knowledge or consent ...well...

 

 

[Barnet1900]

55 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Which schools are those ?

The same school that had an issue with a group of kids punishing another student and posting it online.

 

I wonder what makes them think violence, bullying and public humiliation is the way to go.

 

Wonder why the same school didn't assist the victim as much as they did clearing their own name and those if the bullies.

 

Did it stop the teachers hitting or humiliating kids any further? You bet it didn't. Still going through the exact same policy.

[snowgard]

Connect https://www.childlinethailand.org/!!! They will help!

[Cameroni]

On 5/29/2025 at 3:28 AM, Hummin said:

Two houses  I have lived in Isaan now, and the neighbour across the street beat her twins every day.

 

Now at the farm, closest neighbour is 350m away, and the grandma beating her 3 year old granddaughter almost every day. 

 

I'm sick and tired off hearing her crying, and it tears me up inside knowing what's going on. But everyone's who knows, keeps to themselves and do nothing. 

 

No wonder so many ending up in Tourist districts in young age. 

 

At least they get some attention, my gf was palmed off to her grandmother and hardly saw her mother most of her childhood. 

[dinsdale]

There's good discipline and there's bad disciple and there's no discipline. A good clip behind the ears is IMHO reasonable. Whacking a kid with a clothes hanger on the legs (caught grandma doing this when my girl was 4 and put a stop to it in no uncertain terms but without anger) is not reasonable, and then there's the liberal no whacking kids approach and we can all see the results of this. Spoilt, self entitled brats (kids and adults) everywhere.

[richard_smith237]

50 minutes ago, Barnet1900 said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

indeed.....  Barnet clearly off his barnet with such a ridiculous statement... 

 

 

How's it ridiculous? I have 100pc certainly on my side that it happens. If it's so ridiculous, go ask a Thai national if the big affluent schools invoke corporal punishment. I'm also certain you'll feel ridiculous. Alternatively, let's hear your proof that it doesn't happen.

 

I can't name names on here for obvious reasons but check, probably the most famous Thai school here, and check their policies on disciplinary measures. I can assure you from experience that they punish children physically and mentally. No parents complain because it's always been their way.

 

Sure..  go ahead and PM me the names of these schools that the Affluent Thai's send their children to which include physical punishment as a policy ?...   in fact name any school.

 

Affluent Thai's are send their children to International Schools: Patana, Harrow, NIST, Shrewsbury, ISB, Prep, St Andrewws

Or, to top schools overseas....

 

Not one of those schools would tolerate so much as a teacher laying a little finger on a child.

 

50 minutes ago, Barnet1900 said:

If that's not enough, you can PM me and I'll happily share all the details. The only condition being that you return to the thread and correct yourself.

 

Sure...   you might be mentioning Government Schools rather than the Top schools the 'Affluent Thai's' send their kids to.

 

50 minutes ago, Barnet1900 said:

If you think that they do it on a daily basis without the parent's knowledge or consent ...well...

 

No parent I know who sends their child to any of the schools I mentioned above, would consent or tolerate any such behavior from a teacher.

 

I think you are getting mixed up between schools which may once have been 'reputable' but are now fallen by the wayside in lieu of far better education at Thailands top international schools whether the affluent and wealthy are fighting tooth and nail to get their kids into. 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Barnet1900 said:

Some of the richest, most affluent schools in the country kick buckets out of kids and with the parent's blessing in advance.

 

 

59 minutes ago, Barnet1900 said:

The same school that had an issue with a group of kids punishing another student and posting it online.

 

I wonder what makes them think violence, bullying and public humiliation is the way to go.

 

Wonder why the same school didn't assist the victim as much as they did clearing their own name and those if the bullies.

 

Did it stop the teachers hitting or humiliating kids any further? You bet it didn't. Still going through the exact same policy.

 

 

Richest and most affluent ??  I dont think so.. 

 

- October 2018 at Ban Dong School in Dok Kham Tai district, Phayao province. students were filmed physically assaulting a younger, autistic primary school girl.

 

- December 2024,  Sisaket province, a female high school student was violently assaulted by her classmates in a classroom, viral video showe the victim being kicked, slapped, and forced to kneel and bow to her aggressors.

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/high-school-female-student-physically-assaulted-in-sisaket

 

These are not rich and affluent schools - they're regular state schools, but yes, violence is an issue as 'those' schools - but not the top tier 'affluent and richest' schools...  (where theoretically you mean the wealthy and affluent send their kids to)...     but they don't send their kids to these schools. 

[connda]

On 5/29/2025 at 8:28 AM, Hummin said:

Two houses  I have lived in Isaan now, and the neighbour across the street beat her twins every day.

 

Now at the farm, closest neighbour is 350m away, and the grandma beating her 3 year old granddaughter almost every day. 

 

I'm sick and tired off hearing her crying, and it tears me up inside knowing what's going on. But everyone's who knows, keeps to themselves and do nothing. 

 

No wonder so many ending up in Tourist districts in young age. 

You have the Thai version it seems:
There was an old woman who lived in a shoe,

She had so many children, she didn't know what to do;

She gave them some broth without any bread;

Then whipped them all soundly and put them to bed.

[dinsdale]

25 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Richest and most affluent ??  I dont think so.. 

Of course not. You obviously know this for a fact......or do you? 

[richard_smith237]

39 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Richest and most affluent ??  I dont think so.. 

Of course not. You obviously know this for a fact......or do you? 

 

...   the wealthiest schools in Thailand, those that the Wealthiest of Thai's send their Children to are certainly not schools where the teachers would beat a child... 

 

I know this for a fact because I have first hand knowledge.

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

...   the wealthiest schools in Thailand, those that the Wealthiest of Thai's send their Children to are certainly not schools where the teachers would beat a child... 

 

I know this for a fact because I have first hand knowledge.

Realistically "beatings" don't happen in most schools be it the top shelf schools, international schools. mid level private schools or government schools. There's always the odd nutter teacher and there's always rshole kids that push the limits.

[rattlesnake]

On 5/29/2025 at 3:28 AM, Hummin said:

Two houses  I have lived in Isaan now, and the neighbour across the street beat her twins every day.

 

Now at the farm, closest neighbour is 350m away, and the grandma beating her 3 year old granddaughter almost every day. 

 

I'm sick and tired off hearing her crying, and it tears me up inside knowing what's going on. But everyone's who knows, keeps to themselves and do nothing. 

 

No wonder so many ending up in Tourist districts in young age. 

 

This is terrible, but it would be a mistake, in my experience (and I have lived in an Isaan village), to imply that this is the norm. It isn't, in fact Thais are more permissive than farangs with their kids in general.

[rattlesnake]

6 hours ago, IsaanT said:

That's so inaccurate.  You've gone done several rungs in my estimation.
 

+1

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Realistically "beatings" don't happen in most schools be it the top shelf schools, international schools. mid level private schools or government schools. There's always the odd nutter teacher and there's always rshole kids that push the limits.

 

Agreed, when it comes to Thai state schools, physical punishment remains far more prevalent than it should be. It's a recurring theme in local news, sadly. That said, these reports typically involve rural or neighbourhood schools, where families tend to be less affluent and hold little social influence.

 

However, I still challenge Barnet1900’s claim that such practices are prevalent in the country’s elite institutions. In the most prestigious, affluent schools, any teacher caught resorting to physical discipline would likely be dismissed immediately. His assertion seems rather naïve — unless, of course, he's referring to military academies, which are a different matter altogether.

 

 

[Barnet1900]

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

 

 

Richest and most affluent ??  I dont think so.. 

 

- October 2018 at Ban Dong School in Dok Kham Tai district, Phayao province. students were filmed physically assaulting a younger, autistic primary school girl.

 

- December 2024,  Sisaket province, a female high school student was violently assaulted by her classmates in a classroom, viral video showe the victim being kicked, slapped, and forced to kneel and bow to her aggressors.

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/high-school-female-student-physically-assaulted-in-sisaket

 

These are not rich and affluent schools - they're regular state schools, but yes, violence is an issue as 'those' schools - but not the top tier 'affluent and richest' schools...  (where theoretically you mean the wealthy and affluent send their kids to)...     but they don't send their kids to these schools. 

My post is arguing the point made previously in which people said that this abuse is linked to certain demographics of Thailand, Isan and not Bangkok. 

 

My reply was that it happens all over Thailand and is not secluded to the poorer regions or schools. The confusion you've added is bringing international schools into the mix. That comparison has never been mentioned and does not fit here. International schools are entirely different to any Thai school and can't be considered in this debate.

 

In response to the post I picked up on, not only government or poorer Thai schools hit children, the higher-tier Thai schools do also, and not only in Isan.

 

Again, you can do some research and you'll find that parents know full well how discipline is handled in these schools and always have. 100pc certain.

[Barnet1900]

9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

 

 

Richest and most affluent ??  I dont think so.. 

 

- October 2018 at Ban Dong School in Dok Kham Tai district, Phayao province. students were filmed physically assaulting a younger, autistic primary school girl.

 

- December 2024,  Sisaket province, a female high school student was violently assaulted by her classmates in a classroom, viral video showe the victim being kicked, slapped, and forced to kneel and bow to her aggressors.

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/high-school-female-student-physically-assaulted-in-sisaket

 

These are not rich and affluent schools - they're regular state schools, but yes, violence is an issue as 'those' schools - but not the top tier 'affluent and richest' schools...  (where theoretically you mean the wealthy and affluent send their kids to)...     but they don't send their kids to these schools. 

Your reply has nothing to do with my reply. I mentioned this behaviour happening at a very affluent school full of rich families with a long history of power and influence. It is accepted there, it happens, it's very real. 

 

You can quote hundreds of cases all over Thailand but make sure you understand my point....not only those schools but the affluent ones also. My argument is based on facts and experience not media outlet reports.

 

I'm not including international schools as they weren't part of this debate. You conveniently added those. My debate is as follows:

 

Is corporal punishment restricted to poor Thai schools in certain regions? No it is not.

Does it happen in other affluent Thai schools? Yes.

 

That's my point. Please stick to the debate and consider that argument only without diverting the argument for your own benefit.

[Andrew Banks]

I didn’t realize in just joining this group just how many bigots are members. It’s not the Thailand I recognize and my wife is from Isaan and we have two young kids.

 

I have been to Thailand more than 50 times over 40 years and have never seen or heard this and to stereotype Thailand and Thais in this way is racist pure and simple.

 

smacking children in legal in most western countries and I sometimes smacked my kids when they were young. Don’t make out that Thailand is a hostile environment for children it could not be further from the truth.

 

some of the stereotypes of Thais in these messages are shocking.

 

i am about to retire to Thailand and it will be a better environment than the UK.for my kids.

 

shocking series of comments from ugly bigots who should be ashamed

[Andrew Banks]

Perhaps someone could tell me how to close my subscription to this obnoxious group?

[Hummin]

9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

This is terrible, but it would be a mistake, in my experience (and I have lived in an Isaan village), to imply that this is the norm. It isn't, in fact Thais are more permissive than farangs with their kids in general.

 

I know, not normal for my Thai family, still it is happening on regular basis openly in the neighborhood and at the school. 

 

I'm quite satisfied I managed to stop the bullying and beating of our step daughter before it went to far and ruined her life. 

[Barnet1900]

13 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

...   the wealthiest schools in Thailand, those that the Wealthiest of Thai's send their Children to are certainly not schools where the teachers would beat a child... 

 

I know this for a fact because I have first hand knowledge.

So do I and you, not I can say this for all of these schools. Likewise, I have first-hand experience that proves this theory completely wrong. It does happen. It's always happened. It continues to happen.

12 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Agreed, when it comes to Thai state schools, physical punishment remains far more prevalent than it should be. It's a recurring theme in local news, sadly. That said, these reports typically involve rural or neighbourhood schools, where families tend to be less affluent and hold little social influence.

 

However, I still challenge Barnet1900’s claim that such practices are prevalent in the country’s elite institutions. In the most prestigious, affluent schools, any teacher caught resorting to physical discipline would likely be dismissed immediately. His assertion seems rather naïve — unless, of course, he's referring to military academies, which are a different matter altogether.

 

 

Why do you revert to personal insults? Naive because I don't agree with you. Ridiculous because I don't agree with you. 

 

I am not referring to military academies as well you know. I have stated the school I am referring to. It is prestigious by Thai standards, full of rich Thai kids, and it had a disciplinary policy that involves teachers hitting kids. According to the rules, the disciplinarian should be the allocated staff member to hit the kids but other Thai teachers also did it which I witnessed on a frequent basis. The disciplinarian would hit kids everyday and throughout the day.

 

The parents know exactly what happens and do not contend it.

 

Have you considered why the headlines are restricted to poorer schools? Perhaps because the richer ones cannot be challenged or criticised.

 

Just to make myself clear so you understand my point.

 

My original reply was in argument against: a. Hitting kids in schools is restricted to Isan or poorer schools.

 

My response was that:

 

This happens all over Thailand and does happen in the better, affluent  schools also.

 

Move on