Is This The Beginning of The End of The American Empire?

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Someone said once, those who are to sure about, ...... ....... ..... ......

 

I will not predict anything, and I am quite okay. as long my country or Thailand are becomes battlefields or worse battlefronts. 

 

My brother continuesly predicting end days, so good our family is all spread out in Europe and also S. America 

The transition to a new monetary system wont be end of days, it could happen more smoothly than you think

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, hotsun said:

The transition to a new monetary system wont be end of days, it could happen more smoothly than you think

 

it will sort of 'end of days' if you lose your life savings. 

 

[Hummin]

Just now, hotsun said:

The transition to a new monetary system wont be end of days, it could happen more smoothly than you think

I do not believe anything, but Im as said before, prepared and done my things, so we should be okay.

 

I do not understand why continue to convince me? We have already discussed it, and you havent revealed anything what you have done for your future

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

and you havent revealed anything what you have done for your future

cashing all his chips into crypto 

but hasnt said where he will hide out

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

it will sort of 'end of days' if you lose your life savings. 

 

Who can they blame that on other than themselves though?

[save the frogs]

10 hours ago, hotsun said:

Who can they blame that on other than themselves though?

Trump?

 

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

I do not believe anything, but Im as said before, prepared and done my things, so we should be okay.

 

I do not understand why continue to convince me? We have already discussed it, and you havent revealed anything what you have done for your future

My life wouldnt change much

[hotsun]

Just now, save the frogs said:

Trump?

 

Could be, probably not happen by 2028

[Lacessit]

43 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Really? Because from what I remember, Russia started this UK nonsense because they insisted on trying to join NATO. Which would have put huge amounts or weapons on Russias border. 

If anyone remembers the Cuban crisis. With Russia trying to put nukes in Cuba. It is understandable why Russia began hostilities. They are worried to lose any advantage should there be a nuclear conflict. 

Ukraine was trying to join the EU, not NATO. Your memory is faulty.

 

The Ukrainian popular revolution of 2013 came about because Putin's puppet leader, Yanukovych, stalled an agreement for closer economic ties with the EU. Putin wanted to keep Ukraine in the Russian economic bloc.

 

Every former Soviet bloc country knows being in the Russian economic system is a recipe for stagnation or worse.

 

Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. He thought he could get away with it again in 2022. What were the Ukrainians supposed to do, sit on their hands?

 

Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in 1996, in return for guarantees of national sovereignty.

 

Frankly, people who try to dress up Russia as a victim are the lowest form of pond scum.

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Who can they blame that on other than themselves though?

A bank fails, depositors lose their savings.

 

571 banks have failed in America in the last 25 years.

 

In Australia, HIH Insurance collapsed in 2001.

 

Should the depositors blame themselves for not being clairvoyant?

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Lacessit said:

A bank fails, depositors lose their savings.

 

571 banks have failed in America in the last 25 years.

 

In Australia, HIH Insurance collapsed in 2001.

 

Should the depositors blame themselves for not being clairvoyant?

 

A lot of bank deposits are backed by govt.

So even if the bank fails, you're insured (usually up to 100K or whatever). 

 

So the entire system would truly need to collapse big time for even that safety measure to fall apart ... 

 

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

A bank fails, depositors lose their savings.

 

571 banks have failed in America in the last 25 years.

 

In Australia, HIH Insurance collapsed in 2001.

 

Should the depositors blame themselves for not being clairvoyant?

The warning signs since 2008 have only become more transparent, anyone that can not see it is not sustainable much longer only has themselves to blame

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, hotsun said:

The warning signs since 2008 have only become more transparent, anyone that can not see it is not sustainable much longer only has themselves to blame

 

I tend to agree that a major "re-structuring" of some sort is on the horizon, possibly the banking system. 

 

But just wondering if the govts are so evil to allow everything to collapse without a safety net. 

 

I really don't even trust crypto that much. 

 

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I tend to agree that a major "re-structuring" of some sort is on the horizon, possibly the banking system. 

 

But just wondering if the govts are so evil to allow everything to collapse without a safety net. 

 

I really don't even trust crypto that much. 

 

What safety net is there for erosion of your purchasing power. It happens slowly, then suddenly. If bitcoin werent a better product than what banks offer then they wouldnt be spending so much time spreading propaganda about it

[HappyExpat57]

15 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

A lot of bank deposits are backed by govt.

So even if the bank fails, you're insured (usually up to 100K or whatever). 

 

So the entire system would truly need to collapse big time for even that safety measure to fall apart ... 

 

Currently the FDIC insures accounts up to $250k USD. The current administration wants to eliminate the FDIC. What POSSIBLE reason could they have other than to loot accounts? They most likely won't pull it off, but goddamn, how much more of this can we take?!?

 

https://www.emarketer.com/content/what-fdic-elimination-would-look-like-banks

[Lacessit]

14 minutes ago, hotsun said:

The warning signs since 2008 have only become more transparent, anyone that can not see it is not sustainable much longer only has themselves to blame

So where is your money?

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The current administration wants to eliminate the FDIC. What POSSIBLE reason could they have other than to loot accounts?

 

Yeah, if they eliminate FDIC, might be safer to move your money to crypto / gold / invest in a gogo bar / buy a house in Isaan and put it in a bar girl's name 

 

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So where is your money?

Im not allin on bitcoin because i have kids and wouldnt recommend anyone else uses it for anything other than a hedge

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, if they eliminate FDIC, might be safer to move your money to crypto / gold / invest in a gogo bar / buy a house in Isaan and put it in a bar girl's name 

 

That guy also says the current administration is trying to cut SS and medicare

[Jingthing]

21 minutes ago, hotsun said:

That guy also says the current administration is trying to cut SS and medicare

The bill in congress now DOES cut Medicare. 4 percent every year. Also MASSIVE CUTS to Medicaid which is for the poorest Americans including poor children. With Maga cruelty is the point.

As far as SS is concerned, not trying to pass any funding reform measures means it WILL be massively cut automatically for all in as early as 5 years. So why isn't such reform in Trump's big ugly help the billionaires bill? Because he's happy to see SS trashed over time. 

[thesetat]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Ukraine was trying to join the EU, not NATO. Your memory is faulty.

 

The Ukrainian popular revolution of 2013 came about because Putin's puppet leader, Yanukovych, stalled an agreement for closer economic ties with the EU. Putin wanted to keep Ukraine in the Russian economic bloc.

 

Every former Soviet bloc country knows being in the Russian economic system is a recipe for stagnation or worse.

 

Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. He thought he could get away with it again in 2022. What were the Ukrainians supposed to do, sit on their hands?

 

Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in 1996, in return for guarantees of national sovereignty.

 

Frankly, people who try to dress up Russia as a victim are the lowest form of pond scum.

Actually i just checked and my memory was fine. 

[ronnie50]

The US isn't really an 'empire' - more of a world super power that throws its weight around, now more erratically than ever. But to answer the main question, regardless of the video, 'Is this the beginning of the end of the US' as we have known it for decades, then I'd say it's not the beginning of the end. The beginning of that end happened in the late 70s and early 80s with 'Reaganomics' and a 'trickle down efffect' of wealth that never happened. The hate, poverty, the indifference to the working poor and societal division we see now is the predicted slide into the end of the United States internally. So we're maybe 2/3 of the way through it. The US and its society is a shadow of its proud self in the 1960s an early 70s. Unions built a post-war middle class, people were comfortable, kind to their neighbors, and very optomistic - compare that with now - that America is not recognisable today. I highly recommend reading two books by the US author Chris Hedges - 'Empire of Illusion' and "America, the farewell tour" he's a former award-winning journalist, a clergyman, and his books are full of quotes from people he's interviewed that come to the grim conclusions above and there's no going back, it will get worse. The first book was written before Trump's first time in office. So this isn't a Trump bashing guy. He mentions Trump in second book during Trump's first term, but he basically says Trump is just a public symbol of the decay of society.

[newbee2022]

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

its culture is more dominant than ever?

Culture is dominant?

I don't think so.

Or do you refer to Weinstein, Epstein, Floyd and Combs when you talk about culture, or Trump even himself.

It's a disgusting kind of something, but no culture at all.🤢

[ronnie50]

Regarding the video interview, the Australian simply glosses over Clinton advocating China's admission to the World Trade Organization (WTO). Then he says China's economy was turbocharged.  What he doesn't mention is that US Corporations and manufactureres wanted access to foreign cheap labor and they pushed Clinton on this, just like they had also pushed the previous Republican presidents. As we know, once China was into the WTO it basically carpetbagged all of the US manufacturing with enabling of the American CEO's that ran those companies and manufacturers. It has done similar to European manufacturers. I don't call that turbocharging an economy, I call it carpetbagging the former US manufacturing base. As much of a crime the corporate-led US Republicans and Democrats have conspired upon, manufacturing is not coming back to US shores (not in any substantial way), so the MAGA economists better look for a plan B.

[ronnie50]

23 hours ago, JaxxBKK said:

Because the US amassed Ukrainian troops and US weapons on the border.

Think you got that backwards. Putin had been massing troops and heavy equipment on the border with Ukraine for weeks. It was clear he was planning to invade. It's why Biden and other world leaders warned Putin publically, and repeatedly, he would pay a heavy price if he went ahead. The Ukrainians had no choice but to prepare for an invasion so they followed suit wit their own build up at the border (yes, with some weapons provided by the West).

 

Regarding this guy in the video blaming Obama for not attacking Assad after 'he' chemically attacked Syrians, Obama probably didn't do anything because it's unlikely Assad was the culprit. It could easily hage been a false flag done by Israel. The last thing Obama would want is to get stuck in another war where the US has zero goodwill. Especially if the region thinks it's protecting it's little pet in Israel.

[JaxxBKK]

38 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Think you got that backwards. Putin had been massing troops and heavy equipment on the border with Ukraine for weeks. It was clear he was planning to invade. It's why Biden and other world leaders warned Putin publically, and repeatedly, he would pay a heavy price if he went ahead. The Ukrainians had no choice but to prepare for an invasion so they followed suit wit their own build up at the border (yes, with some weapons provided by the West).

 

Regarding this guy in the video blaming Obama for not attacking Assad after 'he' chemically attacked Syrians, Obama probably didn't do anything because it's unlikely Assad was the culprit. It could easily hage been a false flag done by Israel. The last thing Obama would want is to get stuck in another war where the US has zero goodwill. Especially if the region thinks it's protecting it's little pet in Israel.

 

 

Blinken: “The US began supplying weapons to Ukraine before the Russian invasion”

 

The United States secretly supplied weapons to Ukraine in 2021, well before the start of the Russian invasion, US Secretary of State revealed. Antony Blinken, in an interview with the New York Times published today. “If you look at the trajectory of the conflict, as we saw it coming, we were able to make sure not only that we were prepared and that allies and partners were prepared, but that Ukraine was prepared. Well before the Russian aggression happened, starting in September and then again in December (2021), we quietly brought a lot of weapons to Ukraine to make sure they had what they needed to defend themselves, including Stingers (air defense systems) and Javelins (anti-tank weapons systems), which were instrumental in preventing Russia from taking Kiev,” Blinken said.

 

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I don't want to get into the Syrian thing. Obama and Powers totally F'ed that up as well. The US was all over that county as was Israel

 

I don't disagree with your appraisal/ assessment of Syria bad actors, false flag. 👍

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The word empire is loaded but on the other hand not totally useless in describing the role of the USA especially since the end of WW2. There are other ways of describing it. For example -- dominant global hegemony.

In any case the "American empire" has overall been a positive stability promoting influence while it has lasted. Of course far from perfect but much better than any other available alternative.

As far as it's decline, that was already in a slower phase of happening already before the ascension of American autocrat Trump who rejects the role of leader of the free world.

What Trump is doing is to GREATLY ACCELERATE that decline.

What I consider enemy states such as Iran, North Korea, and Russia, etc. are celebrating that gift that the maga fascist cult has given them.

Decent Americans and traditional decent American allies realize that such rapid acceleration was unnecessary and is VERY DANGEOUS.

Now for better or worse (worse) everyone in the world is going to have to adjust to this radically different new reality.

Especially Americans.

 

 

Unfortunately, US citizens, and ONLY US citizens, are the people are the only people who can stop him. 

 

The gop or Republican party are letting him run wild, and the Democrats are no longer a force to be reckoned with.

 

That leaves the USA with what and who, to replace Trump and all his sycophants, because he cannot do what he IS doing on his own.

 

If you get rid of Trump alone, who will take over?

 

Vance?

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

Culture is dominant?

I don't think so.

 

 

You can think whatever you want to think, American culture is the dominant world culture. Chinese, Thai and Japanese, Norwegians, Germans and Brits ape American music, film and literature. That Australian gal putting on a southern US accent when rapping is hilarious.

 

American social media, AI and consumer electronics rule the planet.

 

Koreans and Chinese copy American TV and cinema. 

 

The whole world wears American clothes, jeans, baseball caps.

 

They eat American food.

 

American culture is the world's dominant culture. You deny reality, but you can't deny the effects of reality.

[NickyLouie]

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

American culture is the world's dominant culture. You deny reality, but you can't deny the effects of reality.

 

 

You should see more of the world my son ....

[newbee2022]

25 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

You can think whatever you want to think, American culture is the dominant world culture. Chinese, Thai and Japanese, Norwegians, Germans and Brits ape American music, film and literature. That Australian gal putting on a southern US accent when rapping is hilarious.

 

American social media, AI and consumer electronics rule the planet.

 

Koreans and Chinese copy American TV and cinema. 

 

The whole world wears American clothes, jeans, baseball caps.

 

They eat American food.

 

American culture is the world's dominant culture. You deny reality, but you can't deny the effects of reality.

If I would be an American, staying there, and believe the hegemonic stories, and close my eyes not realizing all the American wars (=culture?) after 1945, killing millions of innocent people, killing the Blacks, and all these politicians involved in corruption, trying to establish a kleptocracy (=culture), then I agree with you. 👍