Greta Thunberg’s Gaza Aid Voyage Sparks Controversy After Senator’s Mocking Remark

[josephbloggs]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Well, apart from no one has called for her demise , no one is starving and Trump isn't the leader .

   So you were completely wrong about everything 

No one is starving???  Are you kidding now? Or are you really that blinkered?

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

No one is starving???  Are you kidding now? Or are you really that blinkered?

 

  They've been starving for for nearly two years now , on the brink of starvation since Nov 2023.............and no ones actually starved yet .

   For how long will keep believing their claims for ?

[josephbloggs]

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  They've been starving for for nearly two years now , on the brink of starvation since Nov 2023.............and no ones actually starved yet .

   For how long will keep believing their claims for ?

You are a callous man Nick, shame on you.

There are plenty of videos out there. I find it hard to believe that anyone can genuinely convince themself it is all a lie. But you have, wow.

[Nick Carter icp]

17 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You are a callous man Nick, shame on you.

There are plenty of videos out there. I find it hard to believe that anyone can genuinely convince themself it is all a lie. But you have, wow.

 

  I do not believe you .

You are lying .

There are no videos of Palestinians starving to death .

 

[FinChin67]

Little Swedish doomsday goblin. I leave it for Israel or Hamas to give her a lesson.

[wombat]

On 6/4/2025 at 10:43 AM, loong said:

Isn't apostate Islamic for being on death row?

 

[wombat]

On 6/5/2025 at 12:09 AM, FinChin67 said:

Little Swedish doomsday goblin. I leave it for Israel or Hamas to give her a lesson.

[loong]

10 hours ago, wombat said:

 

 

 Thank you but I was aware or the meaning of apostate.

When I asked "Isn't apostate Islamic for being on death row?" it was really a bit tongue in cheek. Many Muslims believe that Muslims who renounce Islam should be executed!

[Evil Penevil]

I can think of the perfect cruise mate for Greta.  She and Gilligan seem to occupy the same intellectual niche. Greta and Gilligan could be a great comedy series.

 

It was a bit sad to see Greta swallowed by antisemitism.  She doesn't just support Palestinians, she has called for the destruction of Israel.

 

 

 

[josephbloggs]

4 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

It was a bit sad to see Greta swallowed by antisemitism.  She doesn't just support Palestinians, she has called for the destruction of Israel

 

That's a lie.

You are supposed to provide evidence for outlandish claims. No doubt you have a link to her calling for the destruction of Israel and you just forgot to include it.

[Evil Penevil]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

That's a lie.

You are supposed to provide evidence for outlandish claims. No doubt you have a link to her calling for the destruction of Israel and you just forgot to include it.

 

Sorry, I did indeed forget to include the links,

Greta Thunberg calls on world to 'crush Zionism'

Video of controversial young climate activist shows her shouting anti-Israel chants in pro-Palestinian protest sparking outrage online   https://www.ynetnews.com/culture/article/rk1t9weba

 

These are the anti-Israel activists in the new Gaza flotilla

Greta Thunberg

Thunberg first gained global recognition for her climate activism and her campaign for greener energy and climate justice. In recent years, however, she has taken a vocal stance in favor of a boycott of Israel and has become a full-throated supporter of the Palestinians. During the Iron Swords War, she spoke at a pro-Palestinian rally and declared that the goal should be to "dismantle Zionism."

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/06/03/these-are-the-anti-israel-activists-in-the-new-gaza-flotilla/

 

She was named "Antisemite of the Week" by a Jewish watchdog organization. It stated (my bold):

"Swedish-born climate activist Greta Thunberg rose to fame in 2018 for her school climate strikes, demanding stronger environmental policies. Since then, she has sadly transformed her activism into a platform for vile Jew-hatred. Since the brutal 10/7 massacre, Greta has joined the ranks of keffiyeh-clad protesters, brazenly voicing her disdain for the Jewish state. What began as a fight to protect the planet has devolved into a campaign of hatred against Jews."

https://stopantisemitism.org/as-week/greta-thunberg/

 

Greta Thunberg sparks outrage after declaring 'f**k Israel and f**k Germany' at pro-Palestine protest

The Swedish climate change activist has been described as 'moving very consciously in close proximity to antisemitism'

https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/greta-thunberg-israel-germany-palestine-protest

 

As Greta Thunberg Chants “Crush Zionism” After Anti-Jewish Pogroms, B’nai B’rith Calls Her Activism Discredited

"One month after a social media post expressing solidarity with people in Gaza but not Israel following the most gruesome atrocities targeting Jews since the Holocaust, Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has escalated inflammatory rhetoric on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Media reports have highlighted a video of her chanting “Krossa Sionismen,” or “Crush Zionism,” at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Stockholm on Nov. 23.

"Zionism means nothing more than support for Israel’s right to exist—and Thunberg’s chanting of a shocking slogan more identified with genocidal forces in the Middle East discredits her as a legitimate interlocutor in the international community. "

https://www.bnaibrith.org/greta-thunberg-activism-discredited-after-shocking-anti-israel-chants/

 

SWC Denounces Greta Thunberg for Turning Amsterdam Event into Pro-Hamas Campaign

The Simon Wiesenthal Center is denouncing Greta Thunberg who, during a climate change protest in Amsterdam, gave the microphone to Sara Rachdan, a Palestinian activist who has called for the destruction of Israel, and in a video falsely purports that Israel is gassing Palestinians.

https://www.wiesenthal.com/about/news/swc-denounces-greta-thunberg.html

[Evil Penevil]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

That's a lie.

You are supposed to provide evidence for outlandish claims. No doubt you have a link to her calling for the destruction of Israel and you just forgot to include it.

 

Stating that Greta Thunberg has called for the destruction is neither a lie nor an outlandish claim.  Here's one more example for X.  She is chanting "From the river to the sea," which is widely regarded as a code for the destruction of Israel.  If Palestine is going to exist from the river to the sea, there's no room for Israel.

 

 

 

 

[johng]

Even saying "Free Palestine" 

is now "widely regarded as a code for the destruction of Israel"

no doubt any criticism of Israel is also "antisemitic"  !!  so goodbye  "freedom of speech"

 

 

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Sorry, I did indeed forget to include the links,

Greta Thunberg calls on world to 'crush Zionism'

Video of controversial young climate activist shows her shouting anti-Israel chants in pro-Palestinian protest sparking outrage online   https://www.ynetnews.com/culture/article/rk1t9weba

 

These are the anti-Israel activists in the new Gaza flotilla

Greta Thunberg

Thunberg first gained global recognition for her climate activism and her campaign for greener energy and climate justice. In recent years, however, she has taken a vocal stance in favor of a boycott of Israel and has become a full-throated supporter of the Palestinians. During the Iron Swords War, she spoke at a pro-Palestinian rally and declared that the goal should be to "dismantle Zionism."

https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/06/03/these-are-the-anti-israel-activists-in-the-new-gaza-flotilla/

 

She was named "Antisemite of the Week" by a Jewish watchdog organization. It stated (my bold):

"Swedish-born climate activist Greta Thunberg rose to fame in 2018 for her school climate strikes, demanding stronger environmental policies. Since then, she has sadly transformed her activism into a platform for vile Jew-hatred. Since the brutal 10/7 massacre, Greta has joined the ranks of keffiyeh-clad protesters, brazenly voicing her disdain for the Jewish state. What began as a fight to protect the planet has devolved into a campaign of hatred against Jews."

https://stopantisemitism.org/as-week/greta-thunberg/

 

Greta Thunberg sparks outrage after declaring 'f**k Israel and f**k Germany' at pro-Palestine protest

The Swedish climate change activist has been described as 'moving very consciously in close proximity to antisemitism'

https://www.gbnews.com/news/world/greta-thunberg-israel-germany-palestine-protest

 

As Greta Thunberg Chants “Crush Zionism” After Anti-Jewish Pogroms, B’nai B’rith Calls Her Activism Discredited

"One month after a social media post expressing solidarity with people in Gaza but not Israel following the most gruesome atrocities targeting Jews since the Holocaust, Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has escalated inflammatory rhetoric on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Media reports have highlighted a video of her chanting “Krossa Sionismen,” or “Crush Zionism,” at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Stockholm on Nov. 23.

"Zionism means nothing more than support for Israel’s right to exist—and Thunberg’s chanting of a shocking slogan more identified with genocidal forces in the Middle East discredits her as a legitimate interlocutor in the international community. "

https://www.bnaibrith.org/greta-thunberg-activism-discredited-after-shocking-anti-israel-chants/

 

SWC Denounces Greta Thunberg for Turning Amsterdam Event into Pro-Hamas Campaign

The Simon Wiesenthal Center is denouncing Greta Thunberg who, during a climate change protest in Amsterdam, gave the microphone to Sara Rachdan, a Palestinian activist who has called for the destruction of Israel, and in a video falsely purports that Israel is gassing Palestinians.

https://www.wiesenthal.com/about/news/swc-denounces-greta-thunberg.html

You're equating criticism of Israel and criticism of the siege and oppression of Gaza as "anti-semitism". She has never explicitly called for the destruction of Israel, only for them to end their siege of, and oppression of, the Palestinian people. 

You read in to things what you like, that's fine. But jumping to an anti Semitism stance when anyone dares to criticise what is going on and you soon lose credibility.

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You're equating criticism of Israel and criticism of the siege and oppression of Gaza as "anti-semitism". She has never explicitly called for the destruction of Israel, only for them to end their siege of, and oppression of, the Palestinian people. 
 

 

   The group whom she is sailing with , the group she is a member of , do support the eradication of Israel and view the Oct 7 terror attack as "regaining territory" .

   She supports Palestine in their war against Israel and their goal is to replace the whole of Israel with a Palestine state 

[johng]

Hopefully there won't be another USS Liberty type "incident"

[Nick Carter icp]

52 minutes ago, johng said:

Even saying "Free Palestine" 

is now "widely regarded as a code for the destruction of Israel"

 

  Well, yes, 

That is what it means .

Create a Palestine state to replace Israel .

That is their intention 

[Bkk Brian]

53 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You're equating criticism of Israel and criticism of the siege and oppression of Gaza as "anti-semitism". She has never explicitly called for the destruction of Israel, only for them to end their siege of, and oppression of, the Palestinian people. 

You read in to things what you like, that's fine. But jumping to an anti Semitism stance when anyone dares to criticise what is going on and you soon lose credibility.

Zionism means nothing more than support for Israel’s right to exist, what do you think "crush Zionism" means?

[Nick Carter icp]

On 6/4/2025 at 6:00 PM, josephbloggs said:

You are a callous man Nick, shame on you.

There are plenty of videos out there. I find it hard to believe that anyone can genuinely convince themself it is all a lie. But you have, wow.

 

   So, you didn't manage to post any videos of people starving in Gaza , even though there's "plenty out there " .

   Do you actually really believe that people are starving in Gaza or are you just going along with the Palestine lies ?

  

[DezLez]

38 minutes ago, johng said:

Hopefully there won't be another USS Liberty type "incident"

Why?

[chondan]

Did she get a 30 day tourist visa from HAMAS?

[johng]

20 minutes ago, DezLez said:

Why?

Because it was bad ?

[mogandave]

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

You're equating criticism of Israel and criticism of the siege and oppression of Gaza as "anti-semitism". She has never explicitly called for the destruction of Israel, only for them to end their siege of, and oppression of, the Palestinian people. 

You read in to things what you like, that's fine. But jumping to an anti Semitism stance when anyone dares to criticise what is going on and you soon lose credibility.

“She has never explicitly called for the destruction of Israel…”  -wink-wink-nudge-nudge….

 

 

[Evil Penevil]

2 hours ago, johng said:

Even saying "Free Palestine" 

is now "widely regarded as a code for the destruction of Israel"

no doubt any criticism of Israel is also "antisemitic"  !!  so goodbye  "freedom of speech"

 

Criticism of Israel is NOT ALWAYS antisemitic.  Millions of  Jews inside and outside Israel criticize Israel's government and society on a daily basis.  Those Jews certainly aren't antisemitic, nor are many of the tens of millions of non-Jews who criticize Israel.  It's absurd to say anyone who criticizes Israel is automatically labeled as antisemitic.  It's simply not true.

 

That's the short answer.  For those want a lengthier discussion, I'll oblige you in my next post.

[DezLez]

3 hours ago, johng said:

Because it was bad ?

What was bad?

[NickyLouie]

On 6/5/2025 at 12:00 AM, josephbloggs said:

There are plenty of videos out there. I find it hard to believe that anyone can genuinely convince themself it is all a lie. But you have, wow.

 

Prove it, you've bought into the hype ......

[Mike_Hunt]

On 6/3/2025 at 10:02 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

The fixation middle aged men had and still do have over her was always creepy.

 

Perhaps you are right, as she grows older her relevance to their needs  will subside.

No one is allowed to comment on her dumb actions?

[NickyLouie]

Just now, SamSaraburi said:

Again a  lie.

free Palestine from blockade, illegal settlements, and occupation

 

Thank God all those Arab nations are helping.....

 

[Evil Penevil]

11 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

You're equating criticism of Israel and criticism of the siege and oppression of Gaza as "anti-semitism". She has never explicitly called for the destruction of Israel, only for them to end their siege of, and oppression of, the Palestinian people. 

You read in to things what you like, that's fine. But jumping to an anti Semitism stance when anyone dares to criticise what is going on and you soon lose credibility.

 

I am NOT equating criticism of Israel with antisemitism.  I don't believe that, nor have I ever written it in any post.  In fact, I believe the opposite, as I wrote in an earlier post.

 

6 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Criticism of Israel is NOT ALWAYS antisemitic.  Millions of  Jews inside and outside Israel criticize Israel's government and society on a daily basis.  Those Jews certainly aren't antisemitic, nor are many of the tens of millions of non-Jews who criticize Israel.  It's absurd to say anyone who criticizes Israel is automatically labeled as antisemitic.  It's simply not true.

 

It's the intent of the criticism that determines whether it is antisemitic.  If the goal of the criticism is to persuade listeners or readers Israel has no right to exist as the homeland of the world's Jews,  then it is antisemitic.  If its purpose is only to register disagreement with  the Israeli government's policies and actions or indicate disapproval of some aspects of Israeli society and the lifestyle of its  people, then it isn't.

 

There's one question you can always ask that instantly decides if the answerer is an antisemite:  Does Israel have the right to exist as a sovereign state and homeland for the world's Jews?  It's as simple as "yes" or "no."

 

I'll turn to more authoritative voices than my own at this point.  On its Web site, the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam poses the question,  "Is criticism of Israel antisemitic?" and answers in part:  "Criticism of the policies of Israeli governments is not necessarily antisemitic. For instance, anyone is free to reject or criticise the political decisions of Israeli governments concerning the Palestinian territories – this is not uncommon in Israel itself. However, denying the State of Israel’s right to exist does constitute antisemitism."

 

It goes on to state that "advocating for the rights of Palestinians is not inherently antisemitic," (my bold text) but also notes, "A line is undeniably crossed when Israel’s right to exist contested or when Israel is likened to Nazi Germany."  The answer includes  more detail, so read  about it here:   https://www.annefrank.org/en/topics/antisemitism/all-criticism-israel-antisemitic/

 

And I'll  also quote what is the most authoritative group in the world on the issue of antisemitism, the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance.  The IHRA working definition of antisemitism includes the following sentences:  "Manifestations [of antisemitism] might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic."

 

The IHRA then gives some examples of what can amount to antisemitism:

• Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
• Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
• Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

There are more examples; you can read them here:  https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

 

I do equate Greta Thunberg chanting "Crush Zionism" and "From the river to the sea" with  calls for the destruction of Israel, which was founded as a Zionist state  77 years ago.   How could Israel continue as a sovereign state and homeland to the world's Jews if you "crush Zionism" or if the State of Palestine runs "from the river to the sea?"

 

I also pay attention to what Greta hasn't said.  She's never acknowledged Israel's right to exist.  As far as I know, she has never called for the release of the  hostages held by Hamas or other Palestinian groups.  She has said the goal of the voyage of the Madleen is to break Israel's blockade of Gaza. My respect for her would have risen enormously if she'd shed some tears for the hostages and said she'd ask Hamas to free them.  She has sympathy for hungry Palestinians but apparently none for starving hostages.  One of the purposes of the tightened blockade of Gaza is to put pressure on Hamas to release the remaining 23 hostages thought to be alive, the Israeli government has said.

[Evil Penevil]

And now for some comic relief:

 

 

And on a little (only a little) more serious note: