Trump Justice Department Probes Biden’s Use of Autopen in Controversial Family Pardons

[JaxxBKK]

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

 

Aggressive judgment? Where ? You mean your brutally off frothy rants ? 

 

The term I used was

 

One liner, passive aggressive.

 

Not aggressive 🙄. Easy to see why you can't keep facts straight

 

Whatever a ..

 

brutally off frothy rant

 

Is besides more word salad 🤔🤔

[blaze master]

Just now, JaxxBKK said:

 

The term I used was

 

One liner, passive aggressive.

 

Not aggressive 🙄. Easy to see why you can't keep facts straight

 

Whatever a ..

 

brutally off frothy rant

 

Is besides more word salad 🤔🤔

 

You're quite an angry fellow. Like your allegation facts ? 

 

Word salad is something reserved for kamala sorry my man. 

 

Anyways like I said when the allegations become fact I'll be standing right beside you. 

[JaxxBKK]

Hey Race Fans ~

 

Waiting for the leftist response to this news item.

 

Here we are on page two. Admittedly, much of p1 are my posts, much in rebuttal to retarded, vapid comments.

 

My post on Fauccis crimes has already garnered three thumbs down for ??? posting the truth about Fauci. All understood as fact and outlined in print. I guess supporters of the criminal actions and lovers of covid cabal? Just butthurt and lashing out in incel tantrum? We will never know 😂

[jerrymahoney]

Pardons can’t be revoked or overturned by later presidents. Because the president’s authority to issue pardons is explicitly laid out in the Constitution – where it says the president ‘shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment’ – significant changes to curtail the presidential clemency power would require a constitutional amendment.

https://www.ibanet.org/US-Presidency-Latest-pardons-cause-serious-rule-of-law-concerns

[JaxxBKK]

3 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

You're quite an angry fellow. Like your allegation facts ? 

 

Word salad is something reserved for kamala sorry my man. 

 

Anyways like I said when the allegations become fact I'll be standing right beside you. 

 

Thank you for your support and the support of the truth.

 

You need not wait the truth is out there. Two staffers have in fact come forth with statements and named names.

 

Enjoy your day

[blaze master]

2 minutes ago, JaxxBKK said:

 

Thank you for your support and the support of the truth.

 

You need not wait the truth is out there. Two staffers have in fact come forth with statements and named names.

 

Enjoy your day

 

Cool story bro.

[gargamon]

38 minutes ago, JaxxBKK said:

41 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Just like pretty much everything coming out of the GOP these days.

 

I have nothing to do with GOP and neither does Trump other than running under the banner. He's a populist and GOPers hate him as much as the riffraff on the left

Yes. I'll correct it.

Just like pretty much everything coming out of the Trump and his goons these days.

[JaxxBKK]

13 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Pardons can’t be revoked or overturned by later presidents. Because the president’s authority to issue pardons is explicitly laid out in the Constitution – where it says the president ‘shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment’ – significant changes to curtail the presidential clemency power would require a constitutional amendment.

https://www.ibanet.org/US-Presidency-Latest-pardons-cause-serious-rule-of-law-concerns

 

But the sitting president did not issue the pardons, was not even aware of the pardons, cannot explain or defend the pardons. Did not sign the pardons. They are not his pardons. In one situation Biden wasn't even in the country when the pardons were auto penned

 

Moreover, in many / all of the most controversial cases:

 

Pardons were for unspecified crimes committed beyond the Biden presidency (2014 think Biden VP Burisma, China).

 

In the case of the lawless J6 committe unspecified people were given blanket pardons.

 

Finally, the people who actually signed the pardons were in many cases if not all unauthorized including perhaps the worst - his wife.

 

This will see SCOTUS

[JaxxBKK]

1 minute ago, gargamon said:

Yes. I'll correct it.

Just like pretty much everything coming out of the Trump and his goons these days.

 

I don't understand your post.

 

On a second point .. Trump and his goons...

 

I guess you are against the rule of law then? This isn't goon squad Democratic lawfare based on frivolous allegations. These are deadly serious criminal activities that took place IN the White House.

[gargamon]

3 minutes ago, JaxxBKK said:

 

But the sitting president did not issue the pardons, was not even aware of the pardons, cannot explain or defend the pardons. Did not sign the pardons. They are not his pardons.

 

Moreover, in many / all of the most controversial cases:

 

Pardons were for unspecified crimes committed beyond the Biden presidency (2014 think Biden VP Burisma, China).

 

In the case of the lawless J6 committe unspecified people were given blanket pardons.

 

Finally, the people who actually signed the pardons were in many cases if not all unauthorized including perhaps the worst - his wife.

 

This will see SCOTUS

According to Trump's goons.

All I hear is yada yada yada.

[JaxxBKK]

Just now, gargamon said:

According to Trump's goons.

All I hear is yada yada yada.

 

That's because that's all your capable of hearing. That's the noise in your head.

[impulse]

20 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Pardons can’t be revoked or overturned by later presidents. Because the president’s authority to issue pardons is explicitly laid out in the Constitution – where it says the president ‘shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment’ – significant changes to curtail the presidential clemency power would require a constitutional amendment.

https://www.ibanet.org/US-Presidency-Latest-pardons-cause-serious-rule-of-law-concerns

 

They can be if the president was unaware of them.  Either because his staff was misbehaving or he was cognitively incapable of knowing.

 

That's what the investigation is about.  Did Biden even know what was being signed in his absence?

 

At the very least, I hope they require a presidential thumbprint on every auto-signed document in the future.

 

[jerrymahoney]

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

They can be if the president was unaware of them.  Either because his staff was misbehaving or he was cognitively incapable of knowing.

 

President Joe Biden speaks in the Roosevelt Room at the White House in Washington, Friday, Jan. 10, 2025. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis)

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Friday said he was still considering whether to give pardons to people who have been criticized or threatened by President-elect Donald Trump.

 

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Biden said he and his aides were playing close attention to rhetoric from Trump and his allies about his political opponents and those involved in his various criminal and civil woes.

 

“It depends on some of the language and expectations that Trump broadcast in the last couple days here as to what he’s going to do," Biden said. “The idea that he would punish people for not adhering to what he thinks should be policy related to his well-being is just outrageous."

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2025-01-10/biden-is-still-considering-pardons-for-people-who-have-been-criticized-or-threatened-by-trump

 

 

[SLOWHAND225]

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

 

So thick unproven allegations.

 

Yet you throw out lots of things as Fact that aren't. 

[impulse]

1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said:

President Joe Biden speaks in the Roosevelt Room at the White House in Washington, Friday, Jan. 10, 2025. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis)

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Friday said he was still considering whether to give pardons to people who have been criticized or threatened by President-elect Donald Trump.

 

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Biden said he and his aides were playing close attention to rhetoric from Trump and his allies about his political opponents and those involved in his various criminal and civil woes.

 

“It depends on some of the language and expectations that Trump broadcast in the last couple days here as to what he’s going to do," Biden said. “The idea that he would punish people for not adhering to what he thinks should be policy related to his well-being is just outrageous."

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2025-01-10/biden-is-still-considering-pardons-for-people-who-have-been-criticized-or-threatened-by-trump

 

How do we know for each individual who was pardoned?  Are you sure none of his aides snuck in a ringer?

 

[blaze master]

1 minute ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

 

Yet you throw out lots of things as Fact that aren't. 

 

Such as ? Please list my most recent ones to start.

[jerrymahoney]

How do you know it was not a robot speaking to the AP 10 JAN 2025?

NBCNews headline 02 JUN 2025

- Trump shares unfounded conspiracy theory claiming Biden was 'executed' in 2020
- Trump didn’t explain why he amplified the baseless claim, which suggested Biden was replaced with other "entities."

[Tug]

4 hours ago, JaxxBKK said:

This thread while insanely important news / implications will be ignored by the forum leftists - guaranteed.

 

These truth bombs always ignored while the Leftists prattle on about starving children somewhere somewhere (but not US)

 

Gonna love to see how truth will be twisted to defend highly illegal actions and the pardons themselves.

This whole sham investigation is a distraction away from trumps big pile of orange (sensord) bill don’t be bamboozled

[Yagoda]

Fabulous legal issues.

 

They should just start indicting folks, then the issue of pardon becomes part of the criminal case. Thats will get things settled.

[jerrymahoney]

A grand jury in Washington DC to indict Democrats-- maybe find a way to empanel a grand jury in Amarillo, TX

[impulse]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

How do you know it was not a robot speaking to the AP 10 JAN 2025?

NBCNews headline 02 JUN 2025

- Trump shares unfounded conspiracy theory claiming Biden was 'executed' in 2020
- Trump didn’t explain why he amplified the baseless claim, which suggested Biden was replaced with other "entities."

 

Trump was just trolling.  He's good at it.
 

 

[jerrymahoney]

Same as when he said:

"The ‘Pardons’ that Sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs, and many others, are hereby declared VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT, because of the fact that they were done by Autopen."

As per Ronald Reagan: “If you're explaining, you're losing.”

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, JaxxBKK said:

 

It's important because of:

 

Joe Biden was not aware and did not even authorize the pardons

 

Various people most likely staffers unauthorized to use the device. Moreover, it is alleged that the staffers took money for their actions

 

It pardoned the likes of total scum responsible for some of the biggest crimes in the past four years, possibly the past 250 years of the republic.

 

It was used for personal protection and protection of Biden crime family.

 

Jill Biden appears to possibly have used the autopen to pardon her own family

 

The pardons themselves such as for the liar Fauci and felonious clown Adam Schiff, Biden family were most unusual in history as they were blanket pardons covering a decade.

 

I'm still waiting for the leftist defense of these treasonous actions 🤣

There’s an awful lot of assumptions in that post only matched by the amount of unsubstantiated allegations.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, JaxxBKK said:

 

That's because that's all your capable of hearing. That's the noise in your head.

Forgive me, all the noise you are making distracted me from the welcome I usually offer brand new members who make their way directly to the news forum to post inflammatory remarks.

 

Welcome anyway, it’s always nice to have at least a possibility of hearing an point of view we’ve not heard before
 

[jerrymahoney]

Seems to me in reading the Executive Order the only suggestion of any legality is the word 'conspiracy' as in:

The Memorandum directs an investigation into whether certain individuals conspired to deceive the public about Biden’s mental state and unconstitutionally exercise the authorities and responsibilities of the President.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/06/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-directs-review-of-certain-presidential-actions/

[JaxxBKK]

As predicted. No libtard rebuttal to the news item. Give it a day for some new anti trump item to be posted. This will sink into abyss and the lefties will go full Monty on the new newsbait 🚀🚀

[JaxxBKK]

25 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

conspired to deceive the public about Biden’s mental state and unconstitutionally exercise the authorities and responsibilities of the President.

 

Lol

 

Nothing to see here...move along

[jerrymahoney]

As linked above:

 

The Memorandum also mandates an investigation into the circumstances surrounding Biden’s purported execution of the numerous executive actions during his final years in office, examining policy documents signed with an autopen, who authorized its use, and the validity of the resulting Presidential policy decisions.

______________

Whether the President May Sign a Bill by Directing That His Signature Be Affixed to It

 

The President need not personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill he approves and decides to sign in order for the bill to become law. Rather, the President may sign a bill within the meaning of Article I, Section 7 by directing a subordinate to affix the President’s signature to such a bill, for example by autopen.

 

July 7, 2005

 

MEMORANDUM OPINION FOR THE COUNSEL TO THE PRESIDENT

 

https://www.justice.gov/file/494411/dl?inline

 

NB The above 2005 opinion was written by Howard C. Nielson Jr., who  is now a Federal District Court judge in Utah, nominated to the position by Mr. Trump during his first term.

 

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Trump was just trolling.  He's good at it.
 

 

Well he's had enough practice over the years, the problem being that even he doesn't know the truth, and his goobers blindly follow because they are in the cult together..........still waiting for him to stop the Ukraine/Russia war in 24 hours (yeah right) and also stop the Israel/Gaza conflict, which of course he hasn't and he also promised to publish the JFK details/report, amongst others which he has promised to do and has failed to deliver on.

 

It becomes extremely obvious that the only thing he is good at is lying and being confused and he is a failure in so many respects.......

[Woke to Sounds]

Joseph Biden never should have trusted A.I. autopens to this extent.

 

It's not his fault.

 

Shame on the USA for putting so much faith into these Terminator technologies.

 

What happened to REAL people with real skills?