Recent trip to UK with Qatar air- A very sad, heartbreaking visit.

[lanng khao]

6 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

 

Same old Liverpool then, nothing's changed!

Just bypass Kensington, anfield, and county road Walton and its happy days,, up the toffees....

[shackleton]

Never a truer word spoken in Jest

You just have to look at the Brit newspapers or Media news 

It's mostly depressing news 😱mind you that's what sells papers 

Makes you happy you made the correct decision to retire here in Thailand 🥳

 

[KannikaP]

10 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

What a load of nonsense. 

 

Get yourself of to a racist forum. 

Most of what he says is absolutely true based on my last visit to UK in March.

Macclesfield Cheshire was dire, Bracknell Berks not much better. Newtown Powys Wales was very pleasant.

[KannikaP]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    That isnt true . 

Totally agree. a friend with such a house is getting over 60 quid a night, per person, by the Government or local Council.

[tomazbodner]

I thought this was about Qatar Airways... given the title.

 

If it was, then this would be suitable link... https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/youtuber-banned-from-qatar-airlines-after-bad-review/467491

 

But since this is UK bashing, I'll let Brits have a quarrel.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

Totally agree. a friend with such a house was offered over 60 quid a night, per person, by the Government or local Council.

 

   Which council was that ?

I don't think that you are telling the truth 

[garygooner]

11 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Outside the supermarkets, I visited about three different store brands from Tesco to Asda during my time there, plenty of beggars asking for change, These were white British people, many on drugs. It was like rough areas of the USA we see on TV.

I watch a few UK YouTubers sometimes wandering around town centers. Always highlighting closed shops, homeless & waste. 

You don't mention where this was. 

[KannikaP]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Which council was that ?

I don't think that you are telling the truth 

Macclesfield

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, KannikaP said:

Macclesfield

 

  Could you provide some evidence to your claim ?

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Macclesfield

 

   Macclesfield /East Cheshire's housing benefit rates . less than 15 Pounds per day 

 

How much is Housing Benefit in Cheshire East?

 

 

East Cheshire

Bedroom allowance	LHA rate
1 bed/shared house	Weekly: £97 Monthly: £421.49

 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Macclesfield++housing+benefit&sca_

 

[KannikaP]

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Could you provide some evidence to your claim ?

I personally know of a man who owns a HMO, ex-my hotel, and he is getting over 60 per night for one person in a single room. More than I used to charge for a double, bed & breakfast.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

I personally know of a man who owns a HMO, ex-my hotel, and he is getting over 60 per night for one person in a single room. More than I used to charge for a double, bed & breakfast.

 

   Hotel toom rates are different to HMO's .

Hotel room rates  would be about 60 a night .

But the claim was about HMO's and Councils wouldn't be paying that for a HMO

[Quentin Zen]

You see what you WANT to see!!!!!    Maybe you go home, bad neighborhood, but spend time with your dying mom.   That trip can be good or bad, up to you.   I'd say it was good, mum (English) is more important than people you don't know but they make you feel unsafe.    You can live in a 7 million dollar house, but home prices are down 1 million.  First-world problems may be a nightmare to you.   You see Pakistanis running a business, you think money laundering......that's your problem.  You spread the hate online, now that's a different problem.  You watch bad places in America?  Why?  Why not use YT and search for "Richest places in America.  Best food in America.  Best this, best that..."  but some like to search out the bad stuff.   You didn't talk about the drug problem in Thailand, or the HIV, xenophobia, Burma, Cambodia, China..........you see what you want to see.  

 

I recommend meditation and a more optimistic outlook on the ONLY life you have.   UK will have your back, Thailand won't.  UK will fight for you, nobody here will.   UK is where you grew up, seems like you are ashamed of it all.  Sorry your funds are low.   

 

I love Thailand but will always, always love America 10x more.   Sure, I lived a nice upper middle-class white-privledged life with some private schools thrown into the mix.......that place has 1 zillion times more opportunity than here.   Here is cheap, easy, relaxing, and good to really escape it all for as long as you want.    But no way should that make you hate your home country.   

 

A couple of what used to be good hotels in the centre are now fully occupied with migrants.

 

yea, I just saw some migrants in Thailand from the UK.   fully occupied centers!!!!   used to be good places, now these migrants (or expats, why would I check, migrants sounds soo much worse and that's what I want to say, hate the migrants).  

 

why can't we just get along?  hahahhahahahahhahahahhah

 

[Scouse123]

9 minutes ago, Quentin Zen said:

You see what you WANT to see!!!!!    Maybe you go home, bad neighborhood, but spend time with your dying mom.   That trip can be good or bad, up to you.   I'd say it was good, mum (English) is more important than people you don't know but they make you feel unsafe.    You can live in a 7 million dollar house, but home prices are down 1 million.  First-world problems may be a nightmare to you.   You see Pakistanis running a business, you think money laundering......that's your problem.  You spread the hate online, now that's a different problem.  You watch bad places in America?  Why?  Why not use YT and search for "Richest places in America.  Best food in America.  Best this, best that..."  but some like to search out the bad stuff.   You didn't talk about the drug problem in Thailand, or the HIV, xenophobia, Burma, Cambodia, China..........you see what you want to see.  

 

I recommend meditation and a more optimistic outlook on the ONLY life you have.   UK will have your back, Thailand won't.  UK will fight for you, nobody here will.   UK is where you grew up, seems like you are ashamed of it all.  Sorry your funds are low.   

 

I love Thailand but will always, always love America 10x more.   Sure, I lived a nice upper middle-class white-privledged life with some private schools thrown into the mix.......that place has 1 zillion times more opportunity than here.   Here is cheap, easy, relaxing, and good to really escape it all for as long as you want.    But no way should that make you hate your home country.   

 

A couple of what used to be good hotels in the centre are now fully occupied with migrants.

 

yea, I just saw some migrants in Thailand from the UK.   fully occupied centers!!!!   used to be good places, now these migrants (or expats, why would I check, migrants sounds soo much worse and that's what I want to say, hate the migrants).  

 

why can't we just get along?  hahahhahahahahhahahahhah

 

 

What an ill thought out ignorant silly post.

 

You haven't seen or been to where I just have but feel obliged to comment and make sweeping statements on the UK as an American.

 

What a clown.

 

What do you mean by' Sorry, your funds are low?'  Another moronic, unfounded load of $hite.

 

Migrants in hotels in Thailand? ........................... You mean guests in the country entering by legitimate means and paying for hotel rooms?

 

If you've nothing to contribute, which you clearly haven't, go find a hobby and leave forums to grown-ups.

[Scouse123]

35 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Macclesfield /East Cheshire's housing benefit rates . less than 15 Pounds per day 

 

How much is Housing Benefit in Cheshire East?

 

 

East Cheshire

Bedroom allowance	LHA rate
1 bed/shared house	Weekly: £97 Monthly: £421.49

 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Macclesfield++housing+benefit&sca_

 

 

 

Housing benefit and what councils are prepared to pay to get themselves out of a sticky situation, when they have nowhere to put them, is not part of the equation.

 

That is how bad it is in the North of England, where they ditch the migrants.

[Scouse123]

30 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I personally know of a man who owns a HMO, ex-my hotel, and he is getting over 60 per night for one person in a single room. More than I used to charge for a double, bed & breakfast.

 

Thanks,

 

My mate fits security cameras and fire alarms in these HMOs and knows the owner well, who has about 30 of these places.

 

He deals with the lower end of the market, and he told my mate this is what he has been offered to take in migrants, and he's doing it.

[Scouse123]

50 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

I thought this was about Qatar Airways... given the title.

 

If it was, then this would be suitable link... https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/youtuber-banned-from-qatar-airlines-after-bad-review/467491

 

But since this is UK bashing, I'll let Brits have a quarrel.

 

 

I had no problems at all with Qatar Airways, it was a great flight both ways on all four legs of the journey.

[KannikaP]

33 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Hotel toom rates are different to HMO's .

Hotel room rates  would be about 60 a night .

But the claim was about HMO's and Councils wouldn't be paying that for a HMO

OK, finished. Thanks.

[GanDoonToonPet]

2 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Scotland isn't like what your describe - still gods country.

 

Natives are anti-English separatists. Slowly being colonised by anti-white racists, misandrists and islamophiles. 🤪

[Stocky]

I've also recently returned from a trip to the UK with Qatar air and we had a great time. 

 

We went in April and school holidays, wife and granddaughter, granddaughter's first trip to the UK. Flew Qatar airways Bangkok - Doha - Birmingham, my house in the UK isn't far from Birmingham in the Black Country near Stourbridge. Flights were fine though the food on Qatar airways is appalling. 

 

We were there for three weeks and spent time around the Midlands, with day trips to Birmingham, Stratford and Warwick, longer trips to South Wales and London. The weather was surprisingly good, a little cool but sunny, and for the most part dry. 

 

Yes the UK is expensive, the cost of accommodation in London, Marylebone for 3 nights would have paid for 10 night in Bangkok, but whilst not cheap I noticed the price of groceries had fallen slightly since my visit last year. The train to London was ridiculously cheap £47 return for 2 adults and a child with Chiltern Railways, but that was off peak and booked online in advance. Car hire was very reasonable too, I paid £277 for an 18 day rental with Europcar.

 

The only time I noticed a lot of down and outs, beggars and druggies was in Birmingham when we strayed into High Street looking for M&S which we discovered had moved to the Bull Ring. But around the new Bull Ring, Victoria Square, Centenary Square and the canals at Brindley Place and Gas Street Basin everything was fine if with a bit more graffiti. I had been expecting the worse visiting Birmingham but it turned out OK, even with the bin strike. Though Birmingham has always been cosmopolitan shall we say.

 

Immigration was a topic with the locals in Chepstow, not an especially cosmopolitan town, they have had a influx of immigrants with some old army barracks having been turned into accommodation for refugees. 

[har0165]

There's good and bad places everywhere. It all depends how much money you have.

[Scouse123]

3 minutes ago, har0165 said:

There's good and bad places everywhere. It all depends how much money you have.

 

That's fine when talking about holiday choices, it's irrelevant when talking about returning to your birthplace, which has changed beyond recognition.

[KannikaP]

3 minutes ago, har0165 said:

There's good and bad places everywhere. It all depends how much money you have.

Or don't have! 

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, tomazbodner said:

I thought this was about Qatar Airways... given the title

Read the second part of the headline.

[Nick Carter icp]

13 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Outside the supermarkets, I visited about three different store brands from Tesco to Asda during my time there, plenty of beggars asking for change,

 

   That is quite surprising because very few people carry money with them these days , all payments are done by card .

   Its uncommon to see beggars these days , I assume because no one has cash to give them .

   Very  few people carry cash these days 

[youreavinalaff]

On my most recent return to UK I noticed a number of Asian looking staff at Heathrow. It's a good job they were there otherwise service would have been a lot worse with many desks and services closed.

 

On my coach trip to SW England I saw beautiful country side, quaint towns and lovely beaches.

 

When shopping I noticed many items cheaper than in Thailand. 

 

Walking through my hometown I noticed many closed shops. That's down to no business as many people now shop online. This backed up by also noticing a large amount of courier vans and supermarket delivery vans. 

 

There were a few homeless there, it seems they can afford alcohol and tobacco but claim to have no money.

 

I saw many people who I guess were immigrants. Many dressed in uniforms showing either private health care company names or NHS. Thank goodness for them too for propping up the healthcare industry.

 

I also read that job vacancies out strip the number of unemployed.  It seems immigrants will travel to UK to work but many British nationals can't be ar$@d to get out of bed to works as benefits are quite lucrative.

 

 

[saintdomingo]

2 hours ago, lanng khao said:

Just bypass Kensington, anfield, and county road Walton and its happy days,, up the toffees....

Up the valley.

[Jimjim1]

13 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That isnt true . 

Oh yes it is.

I have first hand knowledge of this because I am a retired landlord of student accommodation and I was hounded to hand over my property to the government under exactly the same conditions and with a guarantee that after the five years my properties would be fully renovated to the high standard that they were already in.

I turned it down because I was more than happy with students and the “A” grading on my properties from the university.

There are many multi millionaires in the UK made that way by the government much too willing to hand out vast sums of tax payers money to people who have no right to be here and should be sent back to the last country they came from but no politician has the balls to stand up and do it.

 

Furthermore I can attest that every word posted here by Scouse123 is a statement of fact and there is nothing racist in it, just the truth, on top of which I will add that I have just completed the most harrowing 300 mile journey on the M6 and M5 where mile after mile is full of potholes and broken roads, in the dim and distant past this journey would have been completed in 7 hours but instead took 12.5 hours because the conditions were atrocious.

Great Britain this once great country is completely broke in every way possible and our worthless politicians should be ashamed of themselves

[Scouse123]

45 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That is quite surprising because very few people carry money with them these days , all payments are done by card .

   Its uncommon to see beggars these days , I assume because no one has cash to give them .

   Very  few people carry cash these days 

 

That's an unrealistic assumption .

 

Of course people carry cash.

 

Or are you saying what I saw with my own eyes didn't happen?

 

Beggars are everywhere in the towns and cities, especially by ATM machines and supermarket entrances.

[youreavinalaff]

3 minutes ago, Jimjim1 said:

Oh yes it is.

I have first hand knowledge of this because I am a retired landlord of student accommodation and I was hounded to hand over my property to the government under exactly the same conditions and with a guarantee that after the five years my properties would be fully renovated to the high standard that they were already in.

I turned it down because I was more than happy with students and the “A” grading on my properties from the university.

There are many multi millionaires in the UK made that way by the government much too willing to hand out vast sums of tax payers money to people who have no right to be here and should be sent back to the last country they came from but no politician has the balls to stand up and do it.

 

Furthermore I can attest that every word posted here by Scouse123 is a statement of fact and there is nothing racist in it, just the truth, on top of which I will add that I have just completed the most harrowing 300 mile journey on the M6 and M5 where mile after mile is full of potholes and broken roads, in the dim and distant past this journey would have been completed in 7 hours but instead took 12.5 hours because the conditions were atrocious.

Great Britain this once great country is completely broke in every way possible and our worthless politicians should be ashamed of themselves

The OP might be full of facts according to the place he visited but it's certainly not true about everywhere.

 

I drove up the M5 recently. A decent journey. A bit busy but a good drive.