Pride Month’s Original Message Lost in a Sea of Performative Gestures

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Reality test: Do you think men can become women just by saying so

Have you looked at the updated defination of "man"and "woman". 

[Baht Simpson]

25 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

It is in the UK or has been until very recently when the highest court in the land stepped in to explain the difference between a man and a woman. In the UK toddlers can banned from school for being " transphobic"...I kid you not! Approximately 90 infant have been found guilty of transphobia in English Infant schools in the last two years.

 

25 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

Approximately 90 infant have been found guilty of transphobia in English Infant schools in the last two years.

Nope. One 3 or 4 year year old, hardly a toddler, was suspended for abuse towards another child. The 94 suspensions or exclusions you were talking about seem to be older primary school children. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/toddler-suspended-nursery-transphobic-b2724495.html

 

It's a shame you don't show the same sympathy towards the child that received the abuse as you do to the one that dished it out. 

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, mikebike said:

I think you are so deep into your own existence that you cannot imagine, in any way whatsoever, anyone else's. In REALITY gender is a spectrum not a line. Casually awaiting your insane response...

My "insane" response: There are men and there are women.

 

Thanks for confirming your adherence to fantasy

[Baht Simpson]

5 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

Forgot this link.

 

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/04/01/transphobic-toddler-suspended-not-the-full-truth/

 

[Yellowtail]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

There are incompetent naval captains who have damaged their vessels who were treated better.

 

JFK for example? 

[Baht Simpson]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

There are men and there are women.

"The man who would call a spade a spade should be compelled to use one" 

 

Oscar Wilde

[Yagoda]

24 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Have you looked at the updated defination of "man"and "woman". 

I just need to look in the mirror.

[James105]

1 hour ago, Baht Simpson said:

Preposterous to equate these monsters with being pedophiles because they're gay. I don't know about the U.S. but there have been numerous instances over the years in the U.K. of straight couples abusing their children including murder. Do I think it's because they're straight? Of course not. That's ludicrous. 

 

There was an instance a few years ago of a straight couple who insisted that their adopted child be special needs so they could abuse him better. Absolutely unbelievable. But that doesn't mean you stop straight people from adopting. These dreadful people abuse children because they are attracted to children, not because they're attracted to people of the opposite sex or same sex. 

 

I'm afraid your post was just meant to liken LGBT+ people to pedophiles to serve your strange narrative. 

 

You say you want gay people to be treated like everyone else but not be able to adopt or have freedom of assembly at Pride. And you make the incorrect assertion that Pride is all about sex. Sexuality is important but not all that Pride is about, which I thought would be self evident.

 

Why are you lot so obsessed about pedophilia?

 

It's about safeguarding and reducing as much as possible the risk of children from abuse by adults.  The odds of male/female partners both being pedophiles is incredibly small whereas it would be a lot higher for 2 males whether straight or gay.  Would you be okay with 2 straight male guys adopting 2 little girls or do you think that would put those girls at needless and avoidable risk?  

 

Pride is about people who desire to have sex with people of their same sex.   It has nothing to do with any other aspect of their character.  I'd equate it to a swingers convention attended by straight people which doesn't require a special month, nor does it happen in public, nor does it require schoolchildren to be taught about it.   

[Baht Simpson]

11 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

It's about safeguarding and reducing as much as possible the risk of children from abuse by adults.  The odds of male/female partners both being pedophiles is incredibly small whereas it would be a lot higher for 2 males whether straight or gay.  Would you be okay with 2 straight male guys adopting 2 little girls or do you think that would put those girls at needless and avoidable risk?  

 

Pride is about people who desire to have sex with people of their same sex.   It has nothing to do with any other aspect of their character.  I'd equate it to a swingers convention attended by straight people which doesn't require a special month, nor does it happen in public, nor does it require schoolchildren to be taught about it.   

So you're changing tack now. It's not because they're gay it's because they're both males. That doesn't sit very well with your original post that was at pains to show them as gay adopters and your allusion to Pride.

 

I agree that it's less likely for two straight males to adopt children but I'm sure it happens infrequently. 

 

You must remember that children's adopted parents are heavily vetted and it can take years sometimes for them to be approved. You will always get the odd bad individuals slip through, sad as it may be. It's not down to me who should be parents of adopted children. I don't know enough of how these people are vetted. 

 

As for Pride, it's clear you don't really understand what it is, equating it only with sex. I don't think anything I could say could convince you otherwise even though it's obviously not true. If you think Pride is just a swingers convention then it's pointless trying to educate you.

 

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

So you're changing tack now. It's not because they're gay it's because they're both males. That doesn't sit very well with your original post that was at pains to show them as gay adopters and your allusion to Pride.

 

I agree that it's less likely for two straight males to adopt children but I'm sure it happens infrequently. 

 

You must remember that children's adopted parents are heavily vetted and it can take years sometimes for them to be approved. You will always get the odd bad individuals slip through, sad as it may be. It's not down to me who should be parents of adopted children. I don't know enough of how these people are vetted. 

 

As for Pride, it's clear you don't really understand what it is, equating it only with sex. I don't think anything I could say could convince you otherwise even though it's obviously not true. If you think Pride is just a swingers convention then it's pointless trying to educate you.

 

 

 

 

I think if you have the dough, you can pretty much hire a surrogate and effectively buy a baby. I think the going rate in the US is $100-200K all-in. 

[BangkokReady]

10 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I'm with Murray on this.

 

 

It's like being "proud" of having blue eyes or curly hair. 

 

The people who make such a big deal about being gay tend to be very dull characters looking for something that makes them feel "special". 

It started as equality, but once it got there, it couldn't stop, and now it is going for superiority.  Much like most social justice movements.

[BangkokReady]

15 hours ago, Social Media said:

Similar confusion greeted Air Canada’s announcement of its first “all-2SLGBTQIA+ flight,” featuring a crew that identified across the expansive spectrum of sexual and gender identities—lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual, and “two-spirit.” While inclusivity in the workplace is important, it’s unclear what this particular gesture achieved.

 

Suggesting that achieving "100% diversity" (no straight people) is a positive thing, meaning that straight people are somehow negative.  That's why people are tired of this.

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

JFK for example? 

 

WWII and  Korea had many mishaps and mistakes.JFK was one of them. The personnel can be given a bit more leeway as they were often inexperienced volunteers or conscripts who did not have the training and knowledge that the personnel of the last 25 years have been given. I often wonder what  Eisenhower thought of the man. 

 

I suggest that a better example is the 2017 USS Fitzgerald  collision. Seven sailors died aboard the Fitzgerald, a guided missile destroyer, when it collided with a cargo ship off the east coast of Japan. The Commanding Officer and Junior Officer initially faced charges including negligent homicide, dereliction of duty, and hazarding a vessel. A year later. the charges were dropped. The decision was explained  as being in the best interest of the Navy, the families of the Fitzgerald Sailors, and the procedural rights of the accused officers with  Both officers  received non-judicial punishment. They were removed from their sea duties, but none were treated the way Harvey Milk was.  Lt. Milk was  harassed  and threatened out of the navy despite an otherwise clean record.He was not fairly treated. 

 

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I just need to look in the mirror.

 Do you really like what you see?  Perhaps that is why you must seek solace in cannabis.  

[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Suggesting that achieving "100% diversity" (no straight people) is a positive thing, meaning that straight people are somehow negative.  That's why people are tired of this.

 

I suggest you watch the short on IG where it appeared. It was an all volunteer  activity and was a message of appreciation to the   employees. All it did was show that there are AC employees who are LBQT etc. and that they perform all roles, and are as reliable and as good as anyone else.  The airline has done similar  them activities for ethnic minority groups. The intent is to assure prospective employees and customers that the airline is not hostile to them. There was no gay message or advocacy to turn people gay. The airline also does a Christmas series of videos. 

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I think if you have the dough, you can pretty much hire a surrogate and effectively buy a baby. I think the going rate in the US is $100-200K all-in. 

 

You would be surprised at how many 30 year olds are using surrogacy, IVF and other methods to conceive. I was  flabbergasted, when my work colleagues and my  family members were telling me of their friends and family experiences. 

[ThreeCardMonte]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nobody supports ‘transing the kids’.

 

Its not a thing
 

“It’s not a thing”

 

Just like the leftist nutters trying to downplay pedophile or child molester into “minor attracted person “.

 

Sugar coat it so doesn’t sound so evil.

The fact is people who support this are evil.

[ThreeCardMonte]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I just need to look in the mirror.

You just confused him with that statement.

[Airalee]

12 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

As for Pride, it's clear you don't really understand what it is, equating it only with sex.

It’s a fashion thing too, right?