Issue Getting Retirement Extension

[leytonorient]

I have been declined my retirement extension due to a strange issue. I rent from a private landlord. For the first time in many years being here the IO is requesting personal info about my landlord. First they asked for the landlord's title deed on the condo. I obtained that but they did not accept it because the deed was in the bank's name because the landlord has a mortgage. Now they want a copy of the landlord's mortgage contract with the bank to prove he is not a nominee. I already gave the TM 30 which the landlord obviously submitted. The landlord does not want to give out this personal financial info with the bank and I don't blame them. Has anyone else had this kind of issue where immigration is wanting all types of personal info from their landlord?

[scubascuba3]

The net is closing in on those with nominees, illegal thai proxy shareholders 

[Caldera]

Which immigration office is this? We've had similar reports from Chonburi Immigration's Jomtien office recently, it would be interesting to know if it happens elsewhere.

[leytonorient]

23 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Which immigration office is this? We've had similar reports from Chonburi Immigration's Jomtien office recently, it would be interesting to know if it happens elsewhere.

BKK

It is unethical to ask someone for their personal financial info. The landlord is not obligated to pass out such documents to tenants. Especially as it is the same landlord that I had last year when I got the extension no problem.

[Caldera]

3 minutes ago, leytonorient said:

BKK

It is unethical to ask someone for their personal financial info. The landlord is not obligated to pass out such documents to tenants. Especially as it is the same landlord that I had last year when I got the extension no problem.

 

I agree, that goes way beyond ensuring that you actually stay where you say you stay. The landlord should be obliged to provide their ID, the rental property's house book, the TM30 receipt - and nothing else.

[Rob Browder]

2 hours ago, leytonorient said:

Has anyone else had this kind of issue where immigration is wanting all types of personal info from their landlord?

Yes - but for a marriage-based extension, which they hate doing.  This is the first I have heard regarding a retirement-based case. 

It would seem the agent-money coffers are coming up short, so they are pushing more legit applicants to their agent-buddies.  I would try to find an agent who will factor your actually meeting the financials in, and offer a cost short of the 15K (in Bangkok), which bypasses the financial requirements.

[renaissanc]

If you are renting your accommodation, apologize to your landlord and say you'll have to move because of Immigration's requirements. This might make him change his mind. If he still won't help you and you can't talk to his wife (women are more sensible than men in financial matters generally), you will have to decide: shall I move accommodation or leave the country? The answer is obvious.

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, renaissanc said:

If you are renting your accommodation, apologize to your landlord and say you'll have to move because of Immigration's requirements. This might make him change his mind. If he still won't help you and you can't talk to his wife (women are more sensible than men in financial matters generally), you will have to decide: shall I move accommodation or leave the country? The answer is obvious.

The landlord is right, immigration shouldn't ask for this information.

[timendres]

When I renewed two years ago, the IO insisted on the deed to the condo, as the owner was not in the blue book.

(it was her daughter who was registered in the blue book and managing everything for her elderly mother).

We produced the deed and all was okay. But it was a small battle over my unwillingness to provide an envelope.

This was at CW.

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, timendres said:

But it was a small battle over my unwillingness to provide an envelope.

This was at CW.

Elaborate