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17 hours ago, simon43 said:

Before weather satellites existed, weather reports and maps were sent out using shortwave radio, mostly intended for ships at sea.

This reminds me of the weather report pictures from the early 1980s in TV, they had such pressure maps.

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Today I modified my antenna, which was horizontal strips of 0.2mm thick and about 1cm large. My idea was that the signal comes from above and therefore I turned them horizontal. It seems however that this was not a good idea. In vertical position, a noaa15 pass was received better than the days before. Comparing the satellite picture on the right with the commercial weather radar website picture on the left, I would say, there is even more information in the noaa15 picture.

Still my antenna setup is not optimal. I'm not getting the nice signal in the waterfall like you posted in the other thread.

So here is a picture how the antenna should not be positioned - horizontally, but the metal strip should be turned 90°

 

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4 hours ago, TronxII said:

This reminds me of the weather report pictures from the early 1980s in TV, they had such pressure maps.

Since it's sent on shortwave, where the signal bandwidth is far smaller than VHF etc, the resolution is very low.  It takes 20 minutes to transmit one map.  I don't know why these WEFAX stations continue to operate....

 

For NOAA:

 

Good to see that the overlay map is showing the correct region 🙂

 

NOAA-15 has a weaker signal than NOAA-19, so try to repeat with a high pass from NOAA-19.  Of course, at the beginning and end of the pass, the signal will fade out but the software will still create the country overlay.  You can set Satdump to delete these top/bottom regions automatically.

 

Next, you can add a passive reflector or director to your antenna.  This should be a single length of metal wire, taped to a bamboo support and positioned parallel to the dipole element, about 55cm behind or in front of that dipole element, (depending on whether it is a reflector or director - either is suitable).  If a director, then its overall length should be 5% shorter than the overall dipole length, and if a reflector, it should be 5% longer.

Then aim that 2-element antenna array straight up to the sky. I manually move my antenna to point it at the satellite as it passes over me, but fixing it straight up at 90 degrees will capture everything but the lowest elevation positions, where the satellite signal will be the weakest anyway.  My 137 MHz is 3-elements, a driven element, a reflector and a director.  (In previous photos, you can also see my 70cms antenna on the same boom - that had 7 elements and I added 4 more).

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6 hours ago, simon43 said:

I don't know why these WEFAX stations continue to operate....

Might be the last ones which will still operate after a couple of high altitude nuclear tests wipe out some of the satellites. We take these satellites for granted like we believed that electric power, security, peace, cheap food and progress would always be there. But big parts of Europe have already no more GPS over the baltic sea, the electric grid breaks down, riots ... 

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^^^ Lol true.  When I lived in Burma, my GPS on my phone often went crazy because it was being jammed by the junta...

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An article about LoRa Mesh networks caught my interest a couple of days ago.  It looks like a fun and somewhat useful hobby.  The startup costs aren't too high.  I have no background working with radio tech so learning curve starts at zero.

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^^^ I use a kind of LoRa mesh with my shortwave transceiver.  It'a system called Winlink (winlink.org), which allows those in remote regions, especially at sea, to send/receive emails, navigational maps etc.  The sailing boat automatically establishes a radio link with my station in Thailand and I either connect them to my own internet connection, or if my internet is down, then my radio transceiver automatically establishes a 'relay' connection to the next Winlink ground station, which for me is in Taiwan or Reunion Island.

 

I've used this system for many years, allowing sailing boats in the southern Indian ocean who don't possess satellite comms equipment, (or it's too expensive to use!), to check their emails, keep in contact with family etc.

 

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I am following with great intersest, I am currently setting up my rig, which is party professional-use and part hobby, And I hope to get it on the roof in about 2 weeks after some structural works.

 

I am lining a 1.9M antenna with fine copper mesh to aid Ku Band.
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I have received (Customs was a nightmare) a SP02/HR Az/El motor to mount the antenna on.

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I have got a Chapparal Co-Rotor for Dual C and Ku Band use with electrical Skew control..
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I knocked together an Arduino to control the Skew over Ethernet

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So for the internal equipment I have put together

 

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MD02 Motor Control with Ethernet
Agilent 8594E 3 GHz spectrum analsyer - With GPIB to ETHERTNET converter
Threadripper Pro 16 core Server, 512 GB RAM, RTX5090 GPU for AI/ML
DVB-S2X (ACM/CCM) 6909 TBS PCI-E card
Hack RF ONE - 20 MHz Software Defined Radio (Working on getting LimeSDR but not sure about customs)

So a pretty solid set-up, wish I could go bigger than 1.9M but I think the neighbours would have something to say about it 🙂

 

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On 6/12/2025 at 8:44 AM, simon43 said:

I realise that I have been cluttering up GG's weather thread with images that I receive from the various weather satellites.  Since satellites and all-things-radio is my hobby, I think it would be better to create a separate thread in this sub-forum for topics about this hobby.

 

I'm a radio amateur in Thailand, but I don't actually do much transmitting.  I mostly spend my time designing and testing various shortwave VHF and UHF radio antennas, mostly to receive image signals from satellites (weather satellites, ISS etc), or data signals from various small Cubesats - mostly built by students at technical colleges in Russia.

 

To be honest, Russia is far more active than the USA in building and deploying Cubesats with projects and experiments on board that 'ordinary folk' can involve themselves in.  The USA mainly has question and answer sessions between college students and astronauts on the ISS.  From time to time, the Russian sector of the ISS does transmit images, which I receive at my home in south Thailand.

 

Anyway, I will try to post interesting signals and news on this thread.  Of course, I welcome relevant posts from other forum members!

 

So to start things off, I repost the image from GG's weather thread that I posted today (Thursday 12th June).  This is an image from the USA weather satellite NOAA-15, as it passed over south-east Asia this morning..  The satellite transmits about 10 images on each pass, and the free processing software on my laptop creates the different images. The image shown has the rain storms indicated by colour - the darker the colour, the more rainy it is!

 

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I've been a prolific user of radio over the years for flying, yachting, motorsports, bike-to-bike radio and enjoying the airband at airshows.  I also used to listen to BBC Radio 4 frequently in the UK but that's mainstream.

Anyway, being in Thailand, I am particularly interested in where the rain is (or is going to be).  I find the Windy phone app is excellent.  However, what you are displaying above looks interesting.  What are the ballpark costs for a novice to get such things working?  BTW, I can solder but I don't know anything about assembling electrical components.


 

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@Satcommlee, impressive line up of equipment.  What signals/frequencies do you hope to receive?

 

@IssanT, the easiest system for receiving weather maps that include indication of rain intensity are the weather maps from NOAA-15 and NOAA-19 low-earth orbit weather satellites (NOAA-18 being 'dead' since 6th June..).  To receive these images you need:

 

- a suitable antenna

You generally have to make this 'cos Thai Customs see 'red' if any package arrives from overseas with the word 'antenna' in the description.

This is a simple omni-directional antenna that I've built a few times using strong chopsticks and blue plastic water pipe and stiff wire:

https://www.instructables.com/NOAA-Satellite-Signals-with-a-PVC-QFH-Antenna-and-/

 

- some RG6 satellite TV cable to connect your antenna to your SDR 'dongle' receiver

 

- The dongle receiver, typically supplied from RTL SDR v4 for about $33 USD (shipped quickly from China, no Customs import issues)

https://www.rtl-sdr.com/product/rtl-sdr-blog-v4-r828d-rtl2832u-1ppm-tcxo-sma-software-defined-radio-dongle-only/

 

- a Windows computer running the free 'Satdump' software to process the received data and to produce the weather image files

https://github.com/SatDump/SatDump/releases/download/1.2.2/SatDump-Windows_x64_Installer.exe

 

- F and F-to-SMS connectors etc.

 

Satdump, when installed and configured, will show you the times when the satellites pass over your location, and it can be configured to automatically receive/decode the signals.

 

The 'whole world' images (well, all of one side of the Earth) that I showed are received using a large dish antenna system.  That's more tricky to set up but I've set up this kind of system in 4 different locations over the past few years, including a few days ago at my home in south Thailand.  I can receive whole-world images sent every 10 minutes by the GK-2A satellite from south Korea.

 

I also enjoy receiving the data signals from Russian college 'cubesats'.  This morning, one of these (UMKA-1) transmitted digital data from their space telescope of an image of the stars. (They usually transmit analog SSTV images, but this was a large digital data packet).  Although I could receive this data, the signal was a little weak, so I couldn't decode most of it... better luck next time.

 

Remember that some satellite signals are analog and some are digital.  Analog signals, such as from the NOAA weather satellites and ISS and Russian cubesat SSTV images degrade 'gracefully' when the signal gets weaker, whilst digital signals are either there or not there, and no in-between!

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6 hours ago, simon43 said:

@Satcommlee, impressive line up of equipment.  What signals/frequencies do you hope to receive?

Pretty much anything LEO-GEO which I work with professionally, - I am considering adding maybe some DIY VHF/UHF Helical or Tonna type antennas if the Motor current remains low enough (having VHF/UHF will open quite a lot of doors) but am a bit worried about it looking a bit like a Spy Base at least with just a 1.9M it just looks like a farang with an appetite for Foreign TV channels.

 

The terminal will be completely web-based access and is prototype, what for I don't think I really know right now 🙂 Needless to say a lot of the expense is absorbed by a company..

 

 

 


 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Satcommlee said:

Pretty much anything LEO-GEO which I work with professionally, - I am considering adding maybe some DIY VHF/UHF Helical or Tonna type antennas if the Motor current remains low enough (having VHF/UHF will open quite a lot of doors) but am a bit worried about it looking a bit like a Spy Base at least with just a 1.9M it just looks like a farang with an appetite for Foreign TV channels.

 

The terminal will be completely web-based access and is prototype, what for I don't think I really know right now 🙂 Needless to say a lot of the expense is absorbed by a company..

 

 

 


 

 

 

Lol, I already had the poo yai bahn here last week to ask about my antennas 🙂  He went away quite happy after I showed him my Thai ham radio licence and we chatted about weather satellites.

 

I used to design equipment for various satellite payloads and ground station projects, Skynet, Envisat etc, but I left the profession when I moved to south-east Asia 23 years ago.  since then it's just for fun...

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Having finally got my big dish to receive images from the south Korean geostationary satellite, I tidied everything up by running the coaxial cable from the dish to my laptop in my room.  From previous experience, I knew that the signal received at the dish would be degraded by the cable losses, such that the Satdump processing software would no longer have sufficient signal to work with.  This proved true, but fortuously my new 40dB LNA blocks arrived by post from China.  With one of these placed in the cable run at the dish end, I had a 10dB S/N (signal-to-noise) ratio at my laptop. (The image shows about 9dB, because it's the middle of the day and the Sun is shining directly onto my dish and LNA block, degrading the S/N).

 

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The images are transmitted every 10 minutes and are sent as 12 horizontal slices of the Earth.  I use these infrared images to create (using post-processing software called Sanchez), to add the country overlay/underlay. My screen grab was made after a few slices had been received,

 

 

 

 

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On 6/14/2025 at 2:29 PM, simon43 said:

@Satcommlee, impressive line up of equipment.  What signals/frequencies do you hope to receive?

 

@IssanT, the easiest system for receiving weather maps that include indication of rain intensity are the weather maps from NOAA-15 and NOAA-19 low-earth orbit weather satellites (NOAA-18 being 'dead' since 6th June..).  To receive these images you need:

 

- a suitable antenna

You generally have to make this 'cos Thai Customs see 'red' if any package arrives from overseas with the word 'antenna' in the description.

This is a simple omni-directional antenna that I've built a few times using strong chopsticks and blue plastic water pipe and stiff wire:

https://www.instructables.com/NOAA-Satellite-Signals-with-a-PVC-QFH-Antenna-and-/

 

- some RG6 satellite TV cable to connect your antenna to your SDR 'dongle' receiver

 

- The dongle receiver, typically supplied from RTL SDR v4 for about $33 USD (shipped quickly from China, no Customs import issues)

https://www.rtl-sdr.com/product/rtl-sdr-blog-v4-r828d-rtl2832u-1ppm-tcxo-sma-software-defined-radio-dongle-only/

 

- a Windows computer running the free 'Satdump' software to process the received data and to produce the weather image files

https://github.com/SatDump/SatDump/releases/download/1.2.2/SatDump-Windows_x64_Installer.exe

 

- F and F-to-SMS connectors etc.

 

Satdump, when installed and configured, will show you the times when the satellites pass over your location, and it can be configured to automatically receive/decode the signals.

 

The 'whole world' images (well, all of one side of the Earth) that I showed are received using a large dish antenna system.  That's more tricky to set up but I've set up this kind of system in 4 different locations over the past few years, including a few days ago at my home in south Thailand.  I can receive whole-world images sent every 10 minutes by the GK-2A satellite from south Korea.

 

I also enjoy receiving the data signals from Russian college 'cubesats'.  This morning, one of these (UMKA-1) transmitted digital data from their space telescope of an image of the stars. (They usually transmit analog SSTV images, but this was a large digital data packet).  Although I could receive this data, the signal was a little weak, so I couldn't decode most of it... better luck next time.

 

Remember that some satellite signals are analog and some are digital.  Analog signals, such as from the NOAA weather satellites and ISS and Russian cubesat SSTV images degrade 'gracefully' when the signal gets weaker, whilst digital signals are either there or not there, and no in-between!


Hi Simon, thanks for this.

We're in the middle of a house build at the moment so I won't get any brownie points for attempting this just right now but I'll pick it up once the house is finished.  I have, however, ordered the dongle - everything else appears to be able to be sourced locally once I start.

I'll report back.
 

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Since I only have a few science lessons to teach this evening, I'm on a roll with satellite signals!

 

I switch over from my dish antenna to a 3-element VHF beam antenna, designed to receive the NOAA and Meteor weather satellite signals.  The Russian bird Meteor M2-4 is coming over, so I configure Satdump to receive and process the signal.  Here's the screen-grab as the data was being received from the satellite.

 

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and after Satdump has completed processing of that data, I have various image files, with one shown below:

 

Meteor transmits image data in a digital mode, so the quality of these images is better than the analogue NOAA satellites.  But note the horizontal black band near the bottom of the image!  That's due to some bug on the satellite itself...

 

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