Will there ever be a safe vaccine?

[Photoguy21]

100% safe? No there never will be. However, unlike the Covid vaccines they can be properly tested before pushing them onto the public.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

          Lots of safe vaccines. Stupid question. 

          ...

          Now go away and annoy someone else. 

Thanks for your interesting facts and evidence based take on the issue.  It finally convinced me that SAFETY FIRST is the main concern in vaccine matters.

I wasn't talking to you, this comment was for another person.

 

Why are you reacting? 

 

[rattlesnake]

10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I survived COVID x2 as an adult (cos they threatened me about travel again)

 

And to my knowledge, unless you were going to the US or Indonesia, it was a rumoured threat as the authorities never stopped anyone unvaccinated from travelling. I travelled to Europe in 2021 (flight from Bangkok to Geneva via Amsterdam and into France by land) and all that was needed was a negative PCR test, shown only once at the check-in counter in Suvarnabhumi.

 

That was a valuable lesson for people too, I think: don't believe rumours and always check information independently. Several people on this forum were adamant that vaccination would be needed to renew visas, though the Thai authorities never even suggested that might be the case.

[rumak]

First.... some of my posts are not strictly covid related,  but i post here thinking it might interest some of the core who visit .   Maybe RedP  could start a thread (just an idea) with regards to  "Strange medical practices of the Third Kind"  .

C&C has another great post today... health related... check it out .  

here is my comment on said article :

 

Absolutely fantastic to see C&C focusing on the big, big ,big issue of health !  I wonder how many people feel like i do...... my biggest fear is being brought to a pharma prison ,  laughingly called a "care giving facility" .... or hospital, for short.

Jeff's article today spells it out so well :  the uncaring, drug peddling, mandated protocols , and outrageous pricing that has all but captured the helpless people who need some help.    I can not say all this without also putting some blame on the blind followers who worship doctors and deny that anyone else without some paper on the wall can know a better way .  Trying to pry those double fake cheese burger 4 pounders and 40 ounce cokes away from the masses ( and i mean Massive Masses) .... will take a herculean effort.

But ....... we gotta start somewhere.   A very smart entrepeneur can , i predict, make a fortune by establishing an A.I  Chat ND system that will focus on natural solutions to the myriad of diseases and smaller ailments that are now a plague .  I spend hours going over the Earth Clinic website , having learned a lot and cured many issues ( ACV and BS for stomach problems for example.  Drs all wanted me to take 
PPI's...... terrible stuff and the opposite of what can help FIX  the problem) .

Lots more personal anecdotes.... but you get my point.  And btw, Jeff ,  next time some sinus issue starts ... put a few drops of 3% peroxide into your ears . This will prevent infection.  Chat ND !    If i had about 30 million I'd start it myself .  haha

Jeff's focusing on the health issue is REALLY helpful .   Keep going !

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, rumak said:

First.... some of my posts are not strictly covid related,  but i post here thinking it might interest some of the core who visit .   Maybe RedP  could start a thread (just an idea) with regards to  "Strange medical practices of the Third Kind"  .

C&C has another great post today... health related... check it out .  

here is my comment on said article :

 

Absolutely fantastic to see C&C focusing on the big, big ,big issue of health !  I wonder how many people feel like i do...... my biggest fear is being brought to a pharma prison ,  laughingly called a "care giving facility" .... or hospital, for short.

Jeff's article today spells it out so well :  the uncaring, drug peddling, mandated protocols , and outrageous pricing that has all but captured the helpless people who need some help.    I can not say all this without also putting some blame on the blind followers who worship doctors and deny that anyone else without some paper on the wall can know a better way .  Trying to pry those double fake cheese burger 4 pounders and 40 ounce cokes away from the masses ( and i mean Massive Masses) .... will take a herculean effort.

But ....... we gotta start somewhere.   A very smart entrepeneur can , i predict, make a fortune by establishing an A.I  Chat ND system that will focus on natural solutions to the myriad of diseases and smaller ailments that are now a plague .  I spend hours going over the Earth Clinic website , having learned a lot and cured many issues ( ACV and BS for stomach problems for example.  Drs all wanted me to take 
PPI's...... terrible stuff and the opposite of what can help FIX  the problem) .

Lots more personal anecdotes.... but you get my point.  And btw, Jeff ,  next time some sinus issue starts ... put a few drops of 3% peroxide into your ears . This will prevent infection.  Chat ND !    If i had about 30 million I'd start it myself .  haha

Jeff's focusing on the health issue is REALLY helpful .   Keep going !

 

I like Jeff Childers, never read an article of his which wasn't good.

 

This part is compatible with my previously-mentioned take on tech, i.e. it's a tool and what matters is who wields it:

 

But ChatGPT pulls up studies your doctor hasn’t read. It explains side effects in full sentences instead of hastily scribbled warnings. It doesn’t interrupt, rush, or dismiss. It doesn’t condescend. It politely answers every question, no matter how many you ask or how dumb they are.

The real threat to medicine isn’t that AI makes mistakes. (So do doctors. A lot.) The threat is that AI demystifies the process — and proves it was never magic to begin with. It’s just pattern recognition, obscure vocabulary, hoarded data, and access to knowledge.

 

We are going through a paradigm change for the best. That's just the reality as I see it.