Urgently need an experienced immigration agent to sort out a mess at CW

[homeseeker]

Could anyway please recommend as soon as possible an immigration agent to sort out a problem preparing and making a TM 30 application and also a TM 47 App as well.

Would like the agent to do both applications on my behalf.

I am based in Bangkok and deal with CW office.

[Upnotover]

I thought you already had your TM30?  What is the mess?  Did you go to CW?  Anyway, Thai Visa Centre https://tvc.co.th/ is often recommended for such things.

[DrJack54]

Back it up. 

What do you need a TM30 and TM47 for. 

You are in Thailand on extension ? 

What's the issue. Clarify. 

As mentioned above @ThaiVisaCentre could assist. 

[Ralf001]

16 minutes ago, homeseeker said:

Could anyway please recommend as soon as possible an immigration agent to sort out a problem preparing and making a TM 30 application and also a TM 47 App as well.

Would like the agent to do both applications on my behalf.

I am based in Bangkok and deal with CW office.

 

in your other thread you have done a TM30.

[homeseeker]

I have explained all in the other thread. to repeat i copy here:

I am completely exasperated, upset and angry.

Spend all afternoon waiting to do my 90 day report. Had all necessary forms and passport.

After well over 2 hours waiting and 117 ahead of me I eventually reached the counter only to be told I needed do a TM 30 with all accompanying documents before I could have my TM 47 considered.

I was sent to 2 other immigration officers who confirmed that was so.

"No need to do another TM30"- 

-words spoken here.

And I stupidly believed what I was told.

 

I assumed that because my Landlord had submitted  on line there was no need to do a TM 30.

 

 

No said immigration.

 

Because i had been living previously in Chonburi  then according to the immigration officer(s) TM 30 cannot be done on line.

 

And of course despite not being young any more they  have no mercy.

 

Any way I have posted separately on here asking if anyone can recommend an experienced immigration agent to help me.

 

 

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, homeseeker said:

Any way I have posted separately on here asking if anyone can recommend an experienced immigration agent to help me.

Contact Thai visa centre. 

Here is link... 

Thai Visa Centre - Visa Agent

https://g.co/kgs/vXXzb5i

 

You can ring them or Line or even Messenger. 

Or send a PM via @ThaiVisaCentre

[rwilem]

2 hours ago, homeseeker said:

I eventually reached the counter only to be told I needed do a TM 30 with all accompanying documents before I could have my TM 47 considered.

Understand that you are going to be contacting an agent to sort your issue. But still not entirely clear on what's happened. You have stated that your landlord (new one, in Bangkok, correct?) completed a TM-30 (for the new place in Bangkok) and provided you with a print of the receipt. 

 

And did you have that print with you, and handed it to the IO at the desk, when attempting to do the 90-day report? (As you said  you 'assumed because your landlord submitted online', 'there was no need to do a TM-30'.) 

 

Something's not adding up here. something's off. The whole system of the TM-30 is really meant to be done online, done online by landlords. 

 

You also say 'because i had been living previously in Chonburi  then according to the immigration officer(s) TM 30 cannot be done on line.'  

 

That doesn't make any sense, either. 

 

Hope the agent can sort it out, sounds like something has gotten lost in translation along the way. On the plus side, if you could say that, you have plenty of time to resolve the issue, up till 7 days after the 90-day report's due date. (But best to count 6 days, as I believe the due date itself counts as 'day 1' of the 'grace period'.) 

[Tod Daniels]

If you got your extension in Chonburi especially if you used an agent (as in you don't even know the address they used down there to get your extension when you got it issued) you'd have to have filed a NEW TM30 the second you came back to Bangkok,
AND
dunno who told you that online TM30 wouldn't work, if your land lord filed one online AND if they exported the document after they filed it so you have a copy of TM30's PDF paper, you should be able to file a 90 day report with just that 
OR  
you might go to Bumrungrad at the 10th floor business center, they do 90 day reporting for people for 650 baht. They'll tell you when you're there if they can do it for you or not, so you won't waste any money if they can't do it 
OR
Especially if you have an agent gotten extension from Chonburi, just don't even bother doing a 90 day report. NOTHING will happen to you, the maximum fine you can get is 2000baht if/when you go to file a 90 day report at a later date. 


When your Bangkok land lord filed the TM30 did they send you the PDF file like this example? You NEED that to prove a TM30 was filed 
 

[homeseeker]

Hello Tod Daniels: I have just seen your interesting reply.

 

The example TM 30 is exactly what my landlord filed on the day I moved in,

 

Yesterday when I presented this to the 90 day counter (with my completed TM47 app etc.) the clerk quizzed me as to why  I had moved to BKK since on their system it showed I lived in 

Chonburi .

(none of her business)

 

Anyway:

 

Taken aback I replied "the hospitals better in BKK" she then proceeded to write on the TM form that I had handed  to her that  what was needed she wrote was "Update TM 30"

Despite my protests and holding up the TM 30 on line paper to her my 90 app was declined  and:

I was then sent to 2 other counters with no avail saying in effect they needed to have a full TM 30 form with all necessary documents. If I understand correctly the as I had moved from Chonburi to BKK is the reason why on line TM 30 is not acceptable  to immigration for doing 90 day registration.

 

Currently  I will pursue this and going to Bumrungrad or accepting a fine is not on the table.

I am seeking an agent or lawyer to assist me.

 

Its been further complicated now in that the Landlord may have reluctance to assist believing they had done all they need to do with filing TM 30 on line on the day I moved in.

And maybe they are right.

But that does not help me if the only way I can do a 90 day is by the owner doing a non line TM 30?!

 

I will keep this thread up dated.

 

 

 

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[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, homeseeker said:

But that does not help me if the only way I can do a 90 day is by the owner doing a non line TM 30?!

What type of extension do you have? 

[homeseeker]

24 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

What type of extension do you have? 

I have retirement extension due in February for renewal

Ironically I have never had problems with my renewals either in BKK or Chonburi

 

-Seems some immigration officers cannot get into there heads that some of us like to live at different times in different places in Thailand and nothing in the immigration laws say we cannot do that

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, homeseeker said:

I have retirement extension due in February for renewal

Ironically I have never had problems with my renewals either in BKK or Chonburi

I asked because one of my Thai partners tenants (farang teacher) recently had been asked for multiple "stuff" for extension. Not just the example TM30 Tod posted regarding proof of where they live. 

Owners title deed etc. 

 

However that's not your situation. 

Good luck getting it sorted. 

 

[Caldera]

4 hours ago, homeseeker said:

Yesterday when I presented this to the 90 day counter (with my completed TM47 app etc.) the clerk quizzed me as to why  I had moved to BKK since on their system it showed I lived in 

Chonburi .

 

To me this indicates that something might be wrong with the online TM30 your landlord has filed.

 

Did you double-check that all your details are correct, including the passport number?

 

Otherwise, your record wouldn't have been updated in their system properly, just like the IO said you would still be showing as residing in Chonburi.

[bamnutsak]

Does Immigration require a TM28 when someone establishes a new domicile/address?