US CDC report shows no link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism

[GroveHillWanderer]

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-cdc-report-shows-no-link-between-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-and-autism/ar-AA1HljK0

[Lacessit]

This anti-vaxxer theme has been debunked for quite some time.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-cdc-report-shows-no-link-between-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-and-autism/ar-AA1HljK0

 

HHS Secretary Kennedy unleashed a 1500-word MOAB of a tweet yesterday about vaccines, stenographic corporate media, and white coated lies. It is far too long to republish the whole thing (read it for yourself). His theme featured a common vaccine ingredient, thimerosal, and his targets included luminaries such as The Guardian, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and “the vaccine industry” writ large.

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[Stiddle Mump]

In my last appearance on a stage (Willesden, Nth Wst London)  in the late 1990s I highlighted the adjuvants that are in vaxxes. A well know doctor was also giving his opinions.

 

TBH, as mush as I thought it was bad medicine, I put the whole medical thing aside and got on with life. Both in England and from 07 in Thailand. Didn't pick up the vaxx baton again until late 2019, when I heard that an epidemic was about to be unleashed on the gullible world. Have not passed it on since.

 

Autism!! What is it and how do kids get it? My take it is a relatively new sickness. Mark Blaxill and San Olmsted co-wrote: The Age of Autism: Mercury, medicine, and a Man-Made Epidemic.**

 

That research made a lot of sense, but I'll reserve judgement.

 

** ref:  www.CanYouCatchaCold.com

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

This anti-vaxxer theme has been debunked for quite some time.

Can't be debunked. It is true.

 

Vaccines are anti-science. Nature is truth.

[Purdey]

Steve Jobs agreed that natural medicines "is truth". 

He got cancer.

Took natural herbal medicines.

Died of cancer.

 

Jeff Childers is a lawyer.

Not a scientist.

Not a virologist

Listening to him is like listening to a bicycle repairman explain how to make a rocket.

[0ffshore360]

Unfortunately this is the same Kennedy who tried and failed to defend a report containing references to non existing studies attributed to  bogus identity or authors who denied any knowledge of .

I am becoming convinced that the elites who control things overall are committed to a mass reduction in the global population . Problematic to that goal is that the populations which are still growing are those that have never had universal access to many medical interventions that the developed west has enjoyed.

It is just as likely if not more so that if any attributable chemical agent is ever found undeniably to cause the neurological symptoms of the autistic  spectrum it will be the copious and "approved" preservatives and related artificial food additives .

The MMR vaccine suspicions were taken seriously by Japan and it has been a long time since they were administered to Japanese infant children. I have read that in fact Japans incidence of ASD is higher than the global average. Yet the real justification was due to related aseptic meningitis attributed to the mumps component but that was not  generally made known.

It remains a fact that brain scans cannot isolate or identify autism even at worst impact levels let alone at fringe degrees of the spectrum . It is a functional  process disorder rather than a symptom of damage.

Think in terms of dyslexia which thankfully is recognized as real in same same but different way.

OCD , depression. manic behaviours. Rare cases have an identifiable cause such as brain tumors . Most are a disruption in chemical processes. Many can be medicated to suppress the symptoms .

However vaccines not only save lives , they also prevent ongoing potential physical damage such as polio or meningitis , std,s  , yellow fever etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[0ffshore360]

56 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Can't be debunked. It is true.

 

Vaccines are anti-science. Nature is truth.

Simply using the word  vaccine is a recognition of a true science.

 

[Red Phoenix]

21 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Jeff Childers is a lawyer.

Not a scientist.

Not a virologist

Listening to him is like listening to a bicycle repairman explain how to make a rocket.

"Listening to him is like listening to a bicycle repairman explain how to make a rocket." 

So a bit like listening to you...

 

You can also read the original X-post that RFK jr wrote on that issue (see link higher).

Ooooh. but he is a lawyer too.

Maybe ask Fauci to shine his darkness on the matter...

 

[Stiddle Mump]

16 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

However vaccines not only save lives , they also prevent ongoing potential physical damage such as polio or meningitis , std,s  , yellow fever etc.

Utter nonsense.

 

Too much BBC and CNN for you Sir.

[0ffshore360]

Laughably incorrect assertion .

By what association  do you declare membership of this pseudo medical platform you claim a voice in ? 

Are you a failed or struck off medic of some prior designation?

Or a devotee of a fringe  religion?

I simply hope there is some misguided upbringing in indoctrinated thought rather than an irrational objection to medical intervention all together.

[Stiddle Mump]

48 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Simply using the word  vaccine is a recognition of a true science.

 

There are a couple of points that are worth considering.

 

Firstly; a vaccine is often quoted as 'safe and 'effective'. Let's take a look. Forget safe; cause no medical intervention can be safe. But effective! Effective; the medical definition of which, has been often subtly changed. The mRNA vaxxes went from 100% safe and effective to 'might' lessen the symptoms 'if' the jabbed contracts the disease. In just 24 months. In truth; they have no idea.

 

That takes us to 'disease'. What disease?. My take is that there are very few diseases. A handful. None of which is caused by a virus. No virus = no need for a vaxx.

 

Secondly; the white-coat narrative is that the immune system will take care of business once vaxxed. It learns. There is no evidence, not that I can find, that shows an 'immune' anything exists.

 

No virus! No immune system! No reason to have a vaccine.

 

Vaccines are anti nature. And anti-science.

 

 

[0ffshore360]

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There are a couple of points that it's worth considering.

 

Firstly; a vaccine is often quoted as 'safe and 'effective'. Let's take a look. Forget safe; cause no medical intervention can be safe. But effective! Effective; the medical definition of which, has been often subtly changed. The mRNA vaxxes went from 100% safe and effective to 'might' lessen the symptoms 'if' the jabbed contracts the disease. In just 24 months. In truth; they have no idea.

 

That takes us to 'disease'. What disease?. My take is that there are very few diseases. A handful. None of which is caused by a virus. No virus = no need for a vaxx.

 

Secondly; the white-coat narrative is that the immune system will take care of business once vaxxed. It learns. There is no evidence, not that I can find, that shows an 'immune' anything exists.

 

No virus! No immune system! No reason to have a vaccine.

 

Vaccines are anti nature. And anti-science.

 

 

You choose not concentrate on the mRNA aspect which I have previously agreed is suspect  for reasons other than yours in real terms. 

You totally ignore the more pertinent questions as to position of counter medical science.

Pathogens are a part of  nature. It is only those that  life threaten the natural  functional health balance of our bodies that  serious medical intervention by way of pre-emptive vaccines  offers realistic degrees of protection.

That you "believe" in your personal opinion does not actually eliminate the opinion of others who do not deny the very clear evidence of diseases caused by pathogens which manifest themselves in symptoms indicating the progression and hopeful subsidence of the particular infection in cases where the pathogen is defeated by the immune system before it causes mortality. Often the positive outcome is assisted and accelerated by an appropriate vaccine.

Enjoy your existence  regardless.

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

7 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

That you "believe" in your personal opinion does not actually eliminate the opinion of others who do not deny the very clear evidence of diseases caused by pathogens which manifest themselves in symptoms indicating

There is no evidence - anywhere, any time - that points to a pathogen causing a disease. You are making things up Sir.

[NoDisplayName]

4 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-cdc-report-shows-no-link-between-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-and-autism/ar-AA1HljK0

 

Was it published in an accredited peer-reviewed journal, or RFK Jr.'s new governmental in-house medicinal tabloid?

 

 

 

 

[gamb00ler]

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There is no evidence - anywhere, any time - that points to a pathogen causing a disease. You are making things up Sir.

I would think that you know the very simple rules of logic that pertain to your statement.  It is nigh impossible to logically prove that a negative statement such as yours is correct.  Since it is an obvious violation of pure logic it MUST be discarded.

 

On what basis do you say that your post is true?  Have you seen ALL evidence?  I don't think so.  Since you definitely haven't seen ALL evidence, your statement is just more of the usual boastful ignorance for which you've become infamous.

[Stiddle Mump]

30 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I would think that you know the very simple rules of logic that pertain to your statement.  It is nigh impossible to logically prove that a negative statement such as yours is correct.  Since it is an obvious violation of pure logic it MUST be discarded.

 

On what basis do you say that your post is true?  Have you seen ALL evidence?  I don't think so.  Since you definitely haven't seen ALL evidence, your statement is just more of the usual boastful ignorance for which you've become infamous.

 

No one has found the evidence. And not going to either. A virus is simply cell debris. Dead and inert.

[Captain Flack]

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[Red Phoenix]

10 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

15 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted a report on Tuesday that said evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders, ahead of a two-day meeting of an advisory panel later this week.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/us-cdc-report-shows-no-link-between-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-and-autism/ar-AA1HljK0

 

Was it published in an accredited peer-reviewed journal, or RFK Jr.'s new governmental in-house medicinal tabloid?

 

The CDC report mentioned in the link to the MSN story, was posted on the CDC's website.  The report stated a.o. that evidence does not support a link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders.  

Why does this matter?

The report posted by CDC is part of the information package that the CDC provides to the ACIP panel, that will meet in course of next week and advise on vaccine policy. 

The incorrect statement in the CDC report ignited the ire of RFK jr who for in response posted a long rebuttal on X.  

Thimerosal - a vaccine adjuvant - is anything but 'safe' 

Here the link to RFK jr's X-post

> https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1937696602996576528

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

Yep, the first ACIP meeting with the new members after RFK jr sacked the old committee, that for decades had rubber-stamped all new vaccines, is definitely making them uncomfortable. 

Below a 3.5 minute clip in which new ACIP member dr Robert Malone politely explains that mRNA 'vaccines' are a totally different kind of fish than the traditional ones, and that the current 'safety' measures do not take into account the very long term adverse effects of that new product class.

 

Source: https://x.com/Humanspective/status/1937985251936244225

 

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yep, the first ACIP meeting with the new members after RFK jr sacked the old committee, that for decades had rubber-stamped all new vaccines, is definitely making them uncomfortable. 

Below a 3.5 minute clip in which new ACIP member dr Robert Malone politely explains that mRNA 'vaccines' are a totally different kind of fish than the traditional ones, and that the current 'safety' measures do not take into account the very long term adverse effects of that new product class.

 

Source: https://x.com/Humanspective/status/1937985251936244225

 

It's all gobblegook  nonsense. There was no killer virus. There was no pandemic. There were no excess deaths. There is no immune system that can be compromised. The mRNA filth has ingredients within that cannot be explained away.

 

Elana Freeland indicates in a recent interview that; "In 2020, the year of the jab, we all noticed the big push to get 5G up and running everywhere, along with Elon Musk’s Q SATs (small satellites). The 60-gigahertz oxygen-intake frequency of 5G, is what we initially saw in the Wuhan footage of people dropping over in the street. Their oxygen intake lethally compromised.

 

Wuhan was, of course, one of the first places to have premium 5G activation."

 

People have to wake up to the fact that there is an agenda at play. The 'pandemic' of 2020 was simply a stepping stone along the way. If the populas don't wake up, and soon, we will have sleep walked into a control system that we will find it difficult, if not impossible, to get out of.

 

Find truth through love of nature.

[Stiddle Mump]

13 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Pathogens are a part of  nature. It is only those that  life threaten the natural  functional health balance of our bodies that  serious medical intervention by way of pre-emptive vaccines  offers realistic degrees of protection.

Pathogens are a part of nature are they!! Care to name one Sir? Just one! 

 

You simply do not know what you are talking about. Just spouting MSM nonsense.

 

I'll tell you about vaccines. They are one of the biggest scientific/medical frauds of the last 150 or so years. They started out as a way to make rich people richer, and have morphed into a anti-nature monster.

 

[Red Phoenix]

Here Meryll Nass's take on the recent ACIP meeting with the new committee members:

 

 

You can read the full article here > 

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/a-few-remarks-on-the-625-626-acip

 

[Stiddle Mump]

Right now. Just read a report by Dr David Martin. He reckons there is a very good chance that there will be an incident of gigantic proportions on July 4th this year. In the USA. I'm concerned that he is is right.

 

Watch here.

 

 https://substack.com/@wellnesswithamy/note/c-128625707

 

What has this to do with vaccines? Everything IMO.

 

Nature is the truth we seek. It has all the answers.

[cjinchiangrai]

13 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There is no evidence - anywhere, any time - that points to a pathogen causing a disease. You are making things up Sir.

And yet every third grader knows that germs exist. If you can upend lifetimes of research from your mothers basement, you could be wrong. Many viruses and bacteria have been identified, cataloged and sometimes defeated. Your fearmongering lies are not going to interfere with my medical care.

[cjinchiangrai]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

It's all gobblegook  nonsense. There was no killer virus. There was no pandemic. There were no excess deaths. There is no immune system that can be compromised. The mRNA filth has ingredients within that cannot be explained away.

 

Elana Freeland indicates in a recent interview that; "In 2020, the year of the jab, we all noticed the big push to get 5G up and running everywhere, along with Elon Musk’s Q SATs (small satellites). The 60-gigahertz oxygen-intake frequency of 5G, is what we initially saw in the Wuhan footage of people dropping over in the street. Their oxygen intake lethally compromised.

 

Wuhan was, of course, one of the first places to have premium 5G activation."

 

People have to wake up to the fact that there is an agenda at play. The 'pandemic' of 2020 was simply a stepping stone along the way. If the populas don't wake up, and soon, we will have sleep walked into a control system that we will find it difficult, if not impossible, to get out of.

 

Find truth through love of nature.

Take off the tinfoil hat, you are loosing the plot.

[Stiddle Mump]

7 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

And yet every third grader knows that germs exist. If you can upend lifetimes of research from your mothers basement, you could be wrong. Many viruses and bacteria have been identified, cataloged and sometimes defeated. Your fearmongering lies are not going to interfere with my medical care.

Of course germs exist. We have a few right now. Bacteria also. They are nature in action.

 

However!! Viruses are a different story. None, not one, has ever been found. In nature. In a petri dish. Even in a computer. And it is these mythical entities, that are the reason for most Big Pharma drugs, medications and vaxxes. How? Because they are promoted by white-coat quacks as being the cause of disease.

 

Just made up nonsense.

 

By the way sir, I'm not giving you health advice. If you are sick, go see a medical expert.

 

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Of course germs exist. We have a few right now. Bacteria also. They are nature in action.

 

However!! Viruses are a different story. None, not one, has ever been found. In nature. In a petri dish. Even in a computer. And it is these mythical entities, that are the reason for most Big Pharma drugs, medications and vaxxes. How? Because they are promoted by white-coat quacks as being the cause of disease.

 

Just made up nonsense.

 

By the way sir, I'm not giving you health advice. If you are sick, go see a medical expert.

 

You said pathogens.

 

Many viruses have been isolated and many have been stopped.

 

Here are a few https://www.utmb.edu/virusimages/the-virus-images

[Stiddle Mump]

36 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

You said pathogens.

 

Many viruses have been isolated and many have been stopped.

 

Here are a few https://www.utmb.edu/virusimages/the-virus-images

Took a look. I particularly like the Ebola one. Looks a mean sod.

 

With all these viruses about. We are told that thousands can be expelled through one sneeze. It is somewhat mystifying why the white-coats can't actually isolate one and get a purification. Then some real science could be done, establishing they cause illness. Etc.

 

But!! Not done so far.

 

The pics look like cell debris to me.

[cjinchiangrai]

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Took a look. I particularly like the Ebola one. Looks a mean sod.

 

With all these viruses about. We are told that thousands can be expelled through one sneeze. It is somewhat mystifying why the white-coats can't actually isolate one and get a purification. Then some real science could be done, establishing that they cause illness. Etc.

 

But!! Not done so far.

 

The pics look like cell debris to me.

Yet somehow the  University of Texas research lab is more credible than a 5G conspiracy theorist.