Do Thai Men Have Any Level Of Emotional Maturity?

[fredwiggy]

11 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Not really. You can move rocks around or do bodyweight exercises or use bands. You don't have to use weights. You could just walk around with a heavy backpack and do some lifts with that. Army guys are tougher than most and their training is nothing like normal gym exercises.

Toughness has little to do with weights but more with attitude and specific training. Weight training, along with some machines, is and always will be the best route for anyone. Just balancing the weights themselves, meaning a barbell or dumbbell, has you using your muscles more than what a machine can do. You don't have to power lift to have gains, as that's a specific route some take. The same with bodybuilding, but with bodybuilding you are training the whole body with lesser weights and this gives you the best training whether you do it to compete or not. Having a strong chest without working the back equally can bring injuries. The same with just walking around with weights. It trains your legs and heart but not the upper body.

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Toughness has little to do with weights but more with attitude and specific training. Weight training, along with some machines, is and always will be the best route for anyone. Just balancing the weights themselves, meaning a barbell or dumbbell, has you using your muscles more than what a machine can do. You don't have to power lift to have gains, as that's a specific route some take. The same with bodybuilding, but with bodybuilding you are training the whole body with lesser weights and this gives you the best training whether you do it to compete or not. Having a strong chest without working the back equally can bring injuries. The same with just walking around with weights. It trains your legs and heart but not the upper body.

It depends on your goals. Bodybuilders use lots of machines these days as they allow more focus on a stretched muscle which promotes more gains according to studies. For everyday functional strength objects like sandbags are more useful. You can build a lot of practical strength with 2 sandbags.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

It depends on your goals. Bodybuilders use lots of machines these days as they allow more focus on a stretched muscle which promotes more gains according to studies. For everyday functional strength objects like sandbags are more useful. You can build a lot of practical strength with 2 sandbags.

That's what I said earlier. Depends on your goals but the fact remains. Weights have been and always will be the best way to make any goals met. Muscles respond to increases in weights. More muscle is gained, more protection for the joints, more calories are burned, and working all the muscles means total body tone.

 

They have specific machines to use for all muscle groups. A beginner or those with injuries can use machines which are safer, but balancing the weights makes your muscles work harder, so it still the best route.

 

I've watched, and trained thousands of people, all of whom made gains using the methods I gave them, which is a combination of weights and machines, along with diet advice.  Weights can give better results in all exercises, such as bench presses, squats, curls and overhead presses, and machines can be used for variety, and in pulldowns, crossovers and tricep presses. There is no substitute for weights if used properly, only an added variety.

[Harrisfan]

It doesnt really matter what you use. Technique is most important.

 

Maximal Strength and Hypertrophy: A 2023 meta-analysis published in PubMed found no significant differences between free weights and machines in terms of improvements in dynamic strength, isometric strength, jump performance, or muscle hypertrophy when tested in a neutral context.2 However, strength gains were found to be modality-specific—free weights led to greater improvements in free-weight strength tests, while machines showed a trend toward better results in machine-based strength tests

[Harrisfan]

Technique tips

 

https://www.menshealth.com/uk/building-muscle/a45918700/long-length-partials/

[oxo1947]

Do Thai Men Have Any Level Of Emotional Maturity?

 

 

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[Bruce Aussie]

On 6/30/2025 at 7:15 AM, novacova said:

A good description of many Westerners 

I don't need to go to gym to look in mirror.  My wife tells me everyday how good I look for my age.

You look younger than Thai men your age 

Love the wife.

[save the frogs]

15 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Weights can give better results in all exercises, such as bench presses, squats, curls and overhead presses, and machines can be used for variety, and in pulldowns, crossovers and tricep presses. There is no substitute for weights if used properly, only an added variety.

 

So are half the machines in gyms useless? 

They are there for people who do not like to do free weight exercises?

 

 

[harryviking]

On 6/30/2025 at 1:50 AM, SoCal1990 said:

Or are they all just a bunch of petulant adult man-children? Serious question...

 

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Please clarify what you mean by Big Lebowski type of deep?

There are limits to civil discourse and I hope you do not mean to cast aspersions on The Dude.

 

That's like just your opinion, man 🙂

 

 

[DezLez]

5 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

"Do Thai Men Have Any Level Of Emotional Maturity?"

 

 

I dont know----how many times do you read about a Thai Man jumping from the balcony--or other stupid things  because his girl friend  said goodbye.

how many times do you read about a Thai Man jumping from the balcony--or other stupid things  because his girl friend  said goodbye.

 

It applies to all nationalities, not just Thais.

[oxo1947]

15 minutes ago, DezLez said:

how many times do you read about a Thai Man jumping from the balcony--or other stupid things  because his girl friend  said goodbye.

 

It applies to all nationalities, not just Thais

I think you might have missed my point DezLez.....Or maybe I worded it badly.  I am saying that Thai men  (the ones they are saying are not emotionally secure)   seem to do this less then other "secure" farangs

[DezLez]

Just now, oxo1947 said:

I think you might have missed my point DezLez.....Or maybe I worded it badly.  I am saying that Thai men  (the ones they are saying are not emotionally secure)   seem to do this less then other "secure" farangs

Sorry;

You are correct; 

I miss interpreted your post.

[Thingamabob]

On 6/30/2025 at 7:00 AM, 1FinickyOne said:

some do some don't 

I agree, but with an amendment ie some do, many don't.

[JensenZ]

22 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

You know I wish I could have such a place but I am looking at the end of the LOS road for me and maybe I am suffering from Thai fatigue?  8 years and some good times but some bad experiences.  Lately all of my contacts with the Thai people have been brief.  I realize everyones Thai experience will be different but for me the first 2 to 3 years were good but the last few have not been so great. 

I have never seen anyone at my current gym wear a sweat suit.  We have a sauna for that. Most mornings I am about the only one who uses it.  It's almost like paraise for me in the sauna. Most of the Thai members do not grab a rag and wipe down machines because most fo the them do not sweat.  

To be fair, Thai people are smaller in girth (usually), i.e. less bulky, and they are born in a country which averages 30C most of the year, so they are acclimatised. Don't confuse a lack of sweating with laziness. My Thai gf trains harder than I do in a room temperature above 30C, and she won't drip sweat at all, but she still sweats, only you cannot see it, and it doesn't make the benches wet.

[JensenZ]

20 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

"You don't have to use weights, you can use things that work the same as weights."  Sure, I guess.  🤷‍♂️

 

Bands aren't going to do the same thing as weights though.  There's a certain amount of effort that you need to make to see the benefits.

 

Similarly, with body weight, the issue is that it's tricky to get the same range of movements and exercises that way.  You can do some pull ups, some press ups, etc.  The problem is that that's kind of limiting, and many aren't actually strong enough to do enough repetitions.

 

Weights are best.

Yep, nothing beats weights. My home gym is stocked with bars, dumbbells, plates, and a rack. It's much more than I need, as I bought the equipment over 10 years ago when I was much stronger. I have a pulldown machine for many additional movements. It's not a pretty gym, but very functional. It's all you need and quite cheap to set up. I train with weights for only one reason these days - to prevent (or slow down) muscle loss or sarcopenia (technical term). The longer you can maintain your muscle strength, the better you'll age. As they say, if you don't use it, you'll lose it.

 

For the heart and circulatory system, I have a Concept 2 Rower, a Concept 2 SkiErg, and a Cybex Arc Trainer... and add to the mix regular 1-hour brisk walks. I'm on the other side of the hill now, so I do my best.

 

All this talk about heavy weights is irrelevant on this forum, as it doesn't take into consideration the age factor. A 30-year-old man should not be training the same as a 60-year-old. Train as heavy as the muscles and joints will comfortably allow in a higher rep range (10 - 20). Use a range of motion that is comfortable and doesn't injure joints.

[BusyB]

On 6/30/2025 at 8:41 AM, fredwiggy said:

Many are growing up with no fathers in the household, or ones that don't teach their children respect for life. Bullies come from bullies. One upmanships are different. Normal competition in a household comes from jealousy that is normal growing up, kids thinking their parents love the other more. This happens all over the world but more in places where fathers aren't available and aren't held accountable for children they make. Children join gangs because they don't have a good dad to teach them how to relate to others without violence or control. They look up to other children who are bigger or tougher and mirror their behavior. Children grow up here too fast because of these missing dads, and you can see what happens in the daily news, how they attack others 5-10 against one, using weapons and kicking while down. No respect for life.

 

I follow what you say.

 

I had a miserable, cowardly, violent father. Got myself out aged 15 to find the paternal structures I needed in the army - a somewhat more legitimate gang ...

[ChrisKC]

On 6/30/2025 at 6:50 AM, SoCal1990 said:

Or are they all just a bunch of petulant adult man-children? Serious question...

Your question is framed in a way that strongly suggests you think so!

 

Not me, Not all men are the same wherever they come from!

 

Try again!

[fredwiggy]

On 7/1/2025 at 5:48 PM, BusyB said:

 

I follow what you say.

 

I had a miserable, cowardly, violent father. Got myself out aged 15 to find the paternal structures I needed in the army - a somewhat more legitimate gang ...

Understandable, as the military teaches self discipline and respect, along with other things, but being regimented, as long as it doesn't turn into OCD, is good for everyone.

[fredwiggy]

On 7/1/2025 at 1:22 PM, save the frogs said:

 

So are half the machines in gyms useless? 

They are there for people who do not like to do free weight exercises?

 

 

All machines are useful, but there is no substitute for free weights. Some make it easier, ,like lat pulldowns, where with weights you'd have to attach a dumbbell to a strap over your waist to increase the weight from just body weight. Machines are safer if training alone in some exercises, and just incorporating them into a free weight routine changes the way they hit muscle groups. Machines are also easier, as there's no balancing involved like free weights, and if you keep a record, you can put down seat height, weight used and return easily as you don't have to put weights on and off and just put a pin in .

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

All machines are useful, but there is no substitute for free weights. Some make it easier, ,like lat pulldowns, where with weights you'd have to attach a dumbbell to a strap over your waist to increase the weight from just body weight. Machines are safer if training alone in some exercises, and just incorporating them into a free weight routine changes the way they hit muscle groups. Machines are also easier, as there's no balancing involved like free weights, and if you keep a record, you can put down seat height, weight used and return easily as you don't have to put weights on and off and just put a pin in .

It's near impossible to replicate lat pull downs or pull ups with free weights.

 

Other exercises can be.

[fredwiggy]

11 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

It's near impossible to replicate lat pull downs or pull ups with free weights.

 

Other exercises can be.

No, it's very easy but it takes a strap around your waist with a dumbbell. You can also get a wide back and thickness with just body weight with pullups.........

[captain_shane]

On 7/1/2025 at 8:47 AM, oxo1947 said:

"Do Thai Men Have Any Level Of Emotional Maturity?"

 

 

I dont know----how many times do you read about a Thai Man jumping from the balcony--or other stupid things  because his girl friend  said goodbye.

Just a few weeks ago a thai man jumped off a balcony to his death over a breakup.

[oxo1947]

15 hours ago, captain_shane said:

Just a few weeks ago a thai man jumped off a balcony to his death over a breakup.

 

We can put that down as a 1 then ---  still have a little way to go to catch up with us  more Emotionally Mature Farangs...........