Trump lives in the past and doesn't understand the future or even the present. A real clown.

8 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Of course, it is Thailand that has aligned against the US and moved towards China. The fact is there is only one thing that Thailand produces that has a relatively high demand in the US. That is Hard Drives, HDDs. Everything else Thailand exports to the US could be more easily and in many cases more cheaply produced in countries closer to the US. HDDs could be limited too. Flashdrives already hold as much memory as HDDs did a few years ago. SSDs hold more. HDDs are dying market. A trade war with Thailand on China's side could finish off HDDs as a consumer item almost entirely. And Thailand would lose one of it major industries.

You have no idea what you are talking about...  

 

Signed...someone in the industry

16 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

It depends who you are.

 

Some are allowed use oversized/undersized coloured fonts, italics, capitals.......

 

 

I guess the rule is all caputals aren't allowed...might be wrong, though. 

This is so easy to solve, Thailand  just needs to buy a few submarines then deficit will balance itself.

10 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Why the  emoji. The USA has not experienced any great benefit since Trump has been playing TACO TACO. On the contrary, the growth that has occurred was primed to occur over a year ago when US budgets were set and spending plans effected. The disorganized cuts from the simpleton expense cuts are only starting to be seen now, and won't really be seen for another 6 months or more  since terminated workers were still being paid.The tariffs have not had an impact yet because they keep being postponed and many US businesses stocked up on raw materials, and keep doing so, during the delay.  US tourism is taking a hit now. Do you think US 29 billion is easily replaced? https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/us-tourism-will-lose-up-to-29-billion-as-visitors-plummet-amid-trump-policies/ar-AA1HXvcE?ocid=BingNewsSerp

You are typical of the US mentality that thinks in immediate terms. The damage being done will  take some time to manifest and when it does, it won't be easily shaken off.  Canada's military budget is  approx. CAD $35 billion  and is increasing its military budget by $9 billion. It currently spends 70% of its procurement on US owned or sourced. material. Last week Canada signed on to the EU defence procurement agreement and will start shifting its procurement to the EU. Australia is expected to follow soon. Those are all billions of dollars of purchases that will not go to the USA. people like you are oblivious because you are too busy with your slogans and insults.  The USA can't replace those billions of $$ by repatriating mop production from Mexico, nor can the USA force anyone to buy US products if they are of shoddy quality and not competitively priced.

8 hours ago, RMK54 said:

Yes, we do, because that's what we voted for! 70+% of the population saw the waste, fraud and abuse being perpetuated by the liberal Democrats in our government. They saw the pandering to the EU and other countries before addressing the concerns of US citizens. So, the people spoke, Trump heard, and he is governing the USA for the benefits of Americans, not the world. Now, I truly believe, once America is back on solid footing, he probably will be more gracious to other countries and try and help them. However, before he does that, he's going to right our government and get the US on a steady course. Don't let your Kumbaya emotions and <removed> get the best of you, sit back, enjoy your retirement, or whatever you're doing in Thailand, and watch. A ship's path doesn't turn on a dime, but PDJT has directed the US ship to be aggressive in maneuvering as much as possible.

I stopped interest at the 70+% fiction.

11 hours ago, englishoak said:

 

Thailand was refused F -35 already by the US .. they arnt on the table if they wanted to. 

 

They love the Chinese so much, why not buy their fighter aircraft from China? (Iran, after all, is buying them too.)

21 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

It was clearly a big mistake for Thailand to align itself with BRICS

 

However, I am really disappointed with all the countries negotiating with Trump. There is only one way to deal with a bully, and that is to fight back and give him a bloody nose.  Playing his game means he wins.

 

He's a bully because he won't accept some countries putting high tariffs on American goods ? Sounds fair to me.

Let's compare American versus the World.    

 

Year             SP500.    World, ex-USA          Difference

2025*	4.5%	7.2%	-2.7%
2024	23.9%	4.7%	19.2%             WOW
2023	23.8%	17.9%	5.8%       WOW
2022	-19.6%	-14.3%	-5.4%
2021	26.6%	12.6%	14.0%           WOW
2020	15.8%	7.6%	8.2%        WOW
2019	30.4%	22.5%	7.9%         WOW
2018	-6.6%	-14.1%	7.5%      WOW
2017	18.7%	24.2%	-5.5%
2016	9.8%	2.7%	7.1%           WOW

  USA WINS

10 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Price of rice will go up affecting poor people, shameful 

Well, most rice farmers in Thailand aren’t exactly rich—so a higher rice price would be a good thing.

The attached image shows the bulk of the Thai exports to the US. Rubber is self explanatory, and substitution importers are not easy to find, so the Americans need to absorb their own tariffs. Nuclear reactors? Hmm I didn't know Thailand is producing them. The bulk is machinery and electronics. Thailand doesn't have any major companies in this area, so it is likely multinationals producing in Thailand and exporting. Not much of the profit is left here, so the multinationals either have to pass the tariffs to the consumers,  reduce the prices and absorb the tariffs, or relocate to a different country where there is no guarantee of future tariffs from anywhere. Not much impact on the Thais unless the production is curbed. Life goes on. 

17 hours ago, TheAppletons said:

 

  How's the weather over there in "Opposite World"?

You tell us? How is it fair for countries to tariff US products but not the other way around?

Maybe deporting those Chinese refugees back to China, and arresting an American academic was not such a good idea.

 

Remember, also, recently Thailand wanted to purchase some high end US fighter jets, but the US said "no"; "no" apparently because of security concerns about Thailand and certain senior Thai officials being "too close" to China.  There are also the links between wealthy Chinese-Thai business families and the CCP leadership.

 

And what corruption?

1 hour ago, captain_shane said:

How is it fair for countries to tariff US products but not the other way around?

 

  Completely ignorant comment.  

 

  If you think the US doesn't have tariffs already in place on various categories of imported products, maybe you shouldn't be speaking on the subject.

Just now, TheAppletons said:

 

  Completely ignorant comment.  

 

  If you think the US doesn't have tariffs already in place on various categories of imported products, maybe you shouldn't be speaking on the subject.

Blah blah blah. Just call people ignorant instead of actually address the argument.

Just now, TheAppletons said:

 

  Completely ignorant comment.  

 

  If you think the US doesn't have tariffs already in place on various categories of imported products, maybe you shouldn't be speaking on the subject.

I love how the most ignorant are the most arrogant. You should get off the internet pal and go read a book.

• Average Rates: In the period leading up to the new tariff, the average applied MFN tariff rate for Thai goods entering the U.S. was relatively low, generally in the single digits. For example, in 2021, the average MFN applied tariff was approximately 11.5%, with a lower rate of about 8.4% for non-agricultural products and a significantly higher average of 31.2% for agricultural products.

• Product-Specific Rates: The actual MFN duty varied significantly by product. For instance, while many raw materials and electronic components might have had very low or zero tariffs, other sectors faced higher rates. The U.S. tariff schedule is highly detailed, with specific rates for thousands of categories of goods.

The Expired Generalized System of Preferences (GSP)

For many years, Thailand benefited from the U.S. Generalized System of Preferences (GSP) program, which is designed to promote economic growth in developing countries by providing duty-free entry for thousands of products.

 

 

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Now tell me, what are the rates thailand has on US products?

1 hour ago, captain_shane said:

You tell us? How is it fair for countries to tariff US products but not the other way around?

 

15 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

I love how the most ignorant are the most arrogant. You should get off the internet pal and go read a book.

• Average Rates: In the period leading up to the new tariff, the average applied MFN tariff rate for Thai goods entering the U.S. was relatively low, generally in the single digits. For example, in 2021, the average MFN applied tariff was approximately 11.5%, with a lower rate of about 8.4% for non-agricultural products and a significantly higher average of 31.2% for agricultural products.

• Product-Specific Rates: The actual MFN duty varied significantly by product. For instance, while many raw materials and electronic components might have had very low or zero tariffs, other sectors faced higher rates. The U.S. tariff schedule is highly detailed, with specific rates for thousands of categories of goods.

The Expired Generalized System of Preferences (GSP)

For many years, Thailand benefited from the U.S. Generalized System of Preferences (GSP) program, which is designed to promote economic growth in developing countries by providing duty-free entry for thousands of products.

 

 

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Now tell me, what are the rates thailand has on US products?

 

  Awesome job proving my point, lol. 

Just now, TheAppletons said:

 

 

  Awesome job proving my point, lol. 

What that thailand has significantly higher rates than the US?

Here's your argument:

Thailand: Huge tariffs on the US
US: Minimal tariffs on thailand

US wants to even up those percentages.

You: TOTALLY UNFAIR BULLIES!!!!!

19 hours ago, johnc925 said:

🇹🇭 Thailand's Average Tariffs on U.S. Imports
WTO & MFN Data (2024–2025)
📌 Summary Comparison
Thailand → U.S. - U.S. → Thailand High-Risk Sectors50–80% on cars, agro, textiles etc.Up to 36% for Thai goods after negotiations fail
🔍 Why Now?
Bottom line:
• Thailand imposes comparatively high tariffs on U.S. agri-goods and vehicles (up to 80%), with an overall average near 10%.
• The U.S. response—a strong 36% tariff on Thai imports—comes via Trump’s “reciprocal” trade strategy aimed at reshaping deal terms before the August 1 deadline.

Makes sense, everything imported in Thailand is over taxed, like imported cars are double price or more which is crazy, hopefully thais will reduce duty fee, it's time.

 

I only wonder how Thai bath will react and most specifically THB/USD 

Is it safe to keep ur savings in THB or should keep some in dollar, I am thinking buying USDT/USDC Propabely BTC and bit PAXG which is Gold crypto.

 

Will THB get rekt? Looks like it.

 

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/USDTTHB/?exchange=BITKUB&utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share

 

 

13 hours ago, JJ-Thailand said:

Trump lives in the past and doesn't understand the future or even the present. A real clown.

 

He is looking at the history of tariffs (and their imbalances), I agree.

7 hours ago, Quentin Zen said:

Let's compare American versus the World.    

 

Year             SP500.    World, ex-USA          Difference

2025*	4.5%	7.2%	-2.7%
2024	23.9%	4.7%	19.2%             WOW
2023	23.8%	17.9%	5.8%       WOW
2022	-19.6%	-14.3%	-5.4%
2021	26.6%	12.6%	14.0%           WOW
2020	15.8%	7.6%	8.2%        WOW
2019	30.4%	22.5%	7.9%         WOW
2018	-6.6%	-14.1%	7.5%      WOW
2017	18.7%	24.2%	-5.5%
2016	9.8%	2.7%	7.1%           WOW

  USA WINS

 

WOW! All that magic money!

Seems the USA doesn't really import much from TH ...

 

 

Well, on the downside, Americans could pay 36% more for Thai wine.  The upside—good California wine for less than TB1000 per bottle.  I’d call that a win.

17 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

I guess the rule is all caputals aren't allowed...might be wrong, though. 

 

Everything had to be in a standard font at one time.....so not sure why they offer all the sizes, colours, and fonts unsder the sun.

 

Now certain posters do what they hell they like.

On 7/8/2025 at 2:19 PM, racket said:

 

The same could be said for Thailand imposing massive tariffs on European car manufacturers. I've always wanted to buy a BMW or Mercedes, but to pay 50% more for a car is plain ass stupid. So we are stuck with boring Toyotas, Hondas and to some extent Ford (which can't deliver parts on time).

 

Malaysia has zero tariffs on imported EVs. I mean sometimes it's unfair, and I get it,  but Thailand has decided to fund its government through imports and you're getting punished big time for buying anything outside Thailand, unless it comes from China for some strange reason. 

 

..but there're talks now between Thailand and the European union on changes to tariffs so this can obviously change. 

Not quite right.

If your Mercedes is assembled in Thailand you don't pay 50% more.

Maybe you don't have 3-4 millions to buy one?

5 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Everything had to be in a standard font at one time.....so not sure why they offer all the sizes, colours, and fonts unsder the sun.

 

Now certain posters do what they hell they like.

I use all cap sometimes for single words to make a point, never had an issue. Cap only posts are annoying, though. So, I agree with that rule full heartedly. Maybe the rules have changed. Having said that, if different fonts are available then they also should usable. 

What are the Thai tariffs on imports?

Thailand manipulates there currency and USD is down 10% against the Baht so the Tariff is not really 36%

 

Thailand needs to understand you can reduce Import Tariffs and make the same or more.  The increased volume of goods would make up the difference.  Americans will buy or import almost anything if they are not harassed and assaulted with excessive import Tariffs.  I paid 41%. a month ago on shoes and tennis strings.  That is on total cost plus shipping. $100 shoes $40 shipping = $57.40 import fee. $197.40 Total Cost.

 

Thinking stick it to Thailand for a while and see how the ridiculously high import fee tastes. Then maybe a rethink on making fair Not advantageous deals.

14 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Not quite right.

If your Mercedes is assembled in Thailand you don't pay 50% more.

Maybe you don't have 3-4 millions to buy one?

That's not true. Go check Benz prices, it's double that in Germany.

For a C class here u get S in Germany

51 minutes ago, Pattaya420 said:

That's not true. Go check Benz prices, it's double that in Germany.

For a C class here u get S in Germany

Mercedes C = 45.000 Euro ~ 1.75m Baht

Price in Thailand 2.7m Baht = too much😁

you're right.