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It may be worth noting that Macron, the ex-bankster from Rothschilds & Co, is disparaged by many of the French.  It is perhaps illustrative of his forked tongue that when standing for election he is said to have described himself as "a socialist".

 

"Jesus, viens nous sauver d'Emmanuel" sung by Marie Reno:

 

3 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

???? Maybe a shrink can help you???

😳

 

At least he's not beyond it.

7 hours ago, ericbj said:

It may be worth noting that Macron, the ex-bankster from Rothschilds & Co, is disparaged by many of the French.  It is perhaps illustrative of his forked tongue that when standing for election he is said to have described himself as "a socialist".

 

"Jesus, viens nous sauver d'Emmanuel" sung by Marie Reno:

 

 

What is the point of emphasizing his work experience at  Rothschild? Yes he worked there for few years. He spent more time in university. He also spent more time in the french civil service than he did as an M&A specialist. He has been President of France for  a longer period. He made his money as the  the person who helped put the deal together that saw Pfizer purchase a division of Nestle. He left the bank to serve his nation and yet, here you are to pick at a small time in his life when he worked as a M&A technocrat.

Timeline (Financial Times)

1977 Emmanuel Macron born in Amiens, northern France

1995 Attends a prestigious high school in Paris. Studies philosophy at Nanterre university and public affairs at Sciences Po before moving to the École nationale d’administration (ENA) — an elite school preparing top candidates for France’s senior civil service 2004 Graduates from ENA to become an “Inspector of Finances” at the economy ministry

2008 Works as investment banker at Rothschild, where he earns about €2.9m, notably for his role in advising Nestlé on the acquisition of a Pfizer unit

2010 Begins work as economic adviser to François Hollande, the Socialist presidential candidate

2012 Serves as deputy secretary-general at the Elysée Palace

2014 Becomes economy minister in the Hollande government 2015 Introduces a business reform package that prime minister Manuel Valls forces through parliament despite protest from the public as well as within the Socialist party

2016 Resigns from government shortly before launching his own independent party En Marche!

2017  Elected president of France

 

 

12 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

What is the point of emphasizing his work experience at  Rothschild? Yes he worked there for few years. He spent more time in university. He also spent more time in the french civil service than he did as an M&A specialist. He has been President of France for  a longer period. He made his money as the  the person who helped put the deal together that saw Pfizer purchase a division of Nestle. He left the bank to serve his nation and yet, here you are to pick at a small time in his life when he worked as a M&A technocrat.

 

 

Macron was twice employed by Rothschild's so obviously a close association.

 

Yes, you mention the mutual benefit between him and Pfizer but do not mention his long-standing relationship with Sanofi Labs.  It is not for nothing that major pharmaceutical companies develop relations with promising politicians.

 

He has also presided over a major loss of French influence in francophone Africa.  Doubtlessly inevitable, but he accelerated the process by his insensitive, arrogant behaviour towards Africans.  Russia has been happy to displace France.

 

And is it for nothing that so many French people, including those who were duped into voting for him, are now angry at his performance?

Build a few hotels in the Orkneys or Falklands. Welcome to Britain, enjoy your stay.

On 7/14/2025 at 9:30 PM, Tiger1980 said:

 It’s all about democracy,or is it.

 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/736224982414550?fs=e&fs=e

 

Sorry. Can't view that. Not on Facebook.

On 7/14/2025 at 11:42 PM, nauseus said:

 

I was just agreeing with you.

 

Just can't please some folk.

 

My apologies. There was me thinking it was sarcasm.

12 hours ago, ericbj said:

 

Macron was twice employed by Rothschild's so obviously a close association.

 

Yes, you mention the mutual benefit between him and Pfizer but do not mention his long-standing relationship with Sanofi Labs.  It is not for nothing that major pharmaceutical companies develop relations with promising politicians.

 

He has also presided over a major loss of French influence in francophone Africa.  Doubtlessly inevitable, but he accelerated the process by his insensitive, arrogant behaviour towards Africans.  Russia has been happy to displace France.

 

And is it for nothing that so many French people, including those who were duped into voting for him, are now angry at his performance?

 

You are intent on doing a hatched job on Macron.  Fine, I will play along.

When exactly did Macron work at Rothschild other than his  4 year period starting in 2008?

What is the longstanding relationship with Sanofi?

 

Macron is not responsible for the loss of French influence in Africa. It was lost decades ago with its  embarrassments in Egypt, Lebanon, Haiti, Burundi, Rwanda, and Chad et al. Blaming Macron because of the actions of the despots in Niger is ridiculous. France is not a world power and has not had influence since the collapse of its crumbling  colonial holdings after WWII. The french population doesn't want influence in Africa because it requires sending "aid" to people who are neither appreciative nor grateful for the aid.

Russia is not displacing France. The reality is that France would not enable the Niger military dictator and so Niger turned to Wagner Group. That says more about Niger than France.

 

The French are always angry. The Farmers are angry because their ridiculously high subsidies are inflated. French unions and their workers  are unhappy because they wanted the retirement age to be kept at age 64, despite that age being unsustainable by pension plans and the fact that French people have a longer longevity than the time when the age was set. France is an unproductive  inefficient manufacturing nation because of its 35 hour work week, 11 statutory holidays and minimum 30 days of vacation, which is typically higher in state and unionized industries. They get upset anytime a government points out that it is 2025 and not 1965 and that workers are not doing the  intensive manual labour that they once did  because of automation  of production processes.

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You are intent on doing a hatched job on Macron.  Fine, I will play along.

When exactly did Macron work at Rothschild other than his  4 year period starting in 2008?

What is the longstanding relationship with Sanofi?

 

Macron is not responsible for the loss of French influence in Africa. It was lost decades ago with its  embarrassments in Egypt, Lebanon, Haiti, Burundi, Rwanda, and Chad et al. Blaming Macron because of the actions of the despots in Niger is ridiculous. France is not a world power and has not had influence since the collapse of its crumbling  colonial holdings after WWII. The french population doesn't want influence in Africa because it requires sending "aid" to people who are neither appreciative nor grateful for the aid.

Russia is not displacing France. The reality is that France would not enable the Niger military dictator and so Niger turned to Wagner Group. That says more about Niger than France.

 

The French are always angry. The Farmers are angry because their ridiculously high subsidies are inflated. French unions and their workers  are unhappy because they wanted the retirement age to be kept at age 64, despite that age being unsustainable by pension plans and the fact that French people have a longer longevity than the time when the age was set. France is an unproductive  inefficient manufacturing nation because of its 35 hour work week, 11 statutory holidays and minimum 30 days of vacation, which is typically higher in state and unionized industries. They get upset anytime a government points out that it is 2025 and not 1965 and that workers are not doing the  intensive manual labour that they once did  because of automation  of production processes.

 

 

 

 

 You are correct that he was with Rothschilds only once. I misread 'rejoint' in his bio as rejoined instead of joined.

 

 As regards his relations with Sanofi Labs there is no lack of information online.

 

 "… entre la macronie et Sanofi, c’est une idylle, une fusion, que les pires scandales ne troublent pas. Un amour qui remonte à loin : en 2007, Emmanuel Macron est rapporteur de la Commission Attali sur la « libération de la croissance française ». Parmi ses membres, une palanquée de PDG, dont Serge Weinberg. Qui conseille au jeune énarque : « Enrichissez-vous ! » Lui-même administrateur de Rothschild et Cie, il l’aide à entrer dans la banque d’affaires. Avant d’être, évidemment, plus tard, l’un des premiers soutiens d’En Marche !, encourageant la candidature. Et qui apparaît, sur nos écrans, dans les salons de l’Elysée, le 14 mai 2017, jour de l’intronisation de notre nouveau président ? Serge Weinberg."

 

 "Since then, Emmanuel Macron has served Sanofi. Before the French.  And often, even, to the detriment of the French."

 

 There follow claims of how Sanofi's Dépakine, has caused malformations and autism amongst babies, to the knowledge of the Company since at least 1980.  The ANSM and Assurance Maladie estimate the number of malformed children between 2,150 and 4,100, with between 16,600 and 30,400 cases of neuro-developmental problems. Children born seriously handicapped for life.

 

 This scandal was componbded by another:  Sanofi refused to pay compensation for the injuries. This incident probably explains why the Company then announces that it will give priority to the U.S. market and not to France.

 

[From the site of the review Santé-Environnement-Politique]

 

 The article goes on to complain that Sanofi does not produce vaccines in France, "a disgrace for the country of Louis Pasteur". But this was rectified when Macron recently opened a new Sanofi factory capable of producing 500 million doses of vaccine per year.

 

 As regards France's involvement in Africa in recent years you are clearly out of date. The French Treasury has had considerable control over the economies of francophone countries of Africa post-independence because it issues their currencies, the franc CFA [the Colonial French African franc]. French interference in their internal affairs, goes as far as coups and assassination (such as that of Thomas Sankara in Burkina Faso) and has caused widespread distrust.

Macron's behaviour on a recent African trip caused outspoken negative reactions.  You can listen to it on YouTube.

 

 Another cause of African discontent is the documented corruption of three major French political parties which, through influence over the budget, arrange taxpayer-funded "aid to Africa".  This goes to French companies, typically in the construction industry, who grease the palms of local African rulers and remit substantial amounts to Swiss bank accounts in the names of INGO intermediaries.  Whence it is accessed by the political parties.

 

 I guess similar things happen with aid from other western countries.  A former senior member of the KNU told me years ago that something similar was operated by German political parties, each one linked to an NGO. Which is apparently why their aid tended to be aimed at "building bridges" with the military regime; one of their objectives being to encourage favourable attitudes to German investment.

1 hour ago, ericbj said:

 

 You are correct that he was with Rothschilds only once. I misread 'rejoint' in his bio as rejoined instead of joined.

 

 As regards his relations with Sanofi Labs there is no lack of information online.

 

 "… entre la macronie et Sanofi, c’est une idylle, une fusion, que les pires scandales ne troublent pas. Un amour qui remonte à loin : en 2007, Emmanuel Macron est rapporteur de la Commission Attali sur la « libération de la croissance française ». Parmi ses membres, une palanquée de PDG, dont Serge Weinberg. Qui conseille au jeune énarque : « Enrichissez-vous ! » Lui-même administrateur de Rothschild et Cie, il l’aide à entrer dans la banque d’affaires. Avant d’être, évidemment, plus tard, l’un des premiers soutiens d’En Marche !, encourageant la candidature. Et qui apparaît, sur nos écrans, dans les salons de l’Elysée, le 14 mai 2017, jour de l’intronisation de notre nouveau président ? Serge Weinberg."

 

 "Since then, Emmanuel Macron has served Sanofi. Before the French.  And often, even, to the detriment of the French."

 

 There follow claims of how Sanofi's Dépakine, has caused malformations and autism amongst babies, to the knowledge of the Company since at least 1980.  The ANSM and Assurance Maladie estimate the number of malformed children between 2,150 and 4,100, with between 16,600 and 30,400 cases of neuro-developmental problems. Children born seriously handicapped for life.

 

 This scandal was componbded by another:  Sanofi refused to pay compensation for the injuries. This incident probably explains why the Company then announces that it will give priority to the U.S. market and not to France.

 

[From the site of the review Santé-Environnement-Politique]

 

 The article goes on to complain that Sanofi does not produce vaccines in France, "a disgrace for the country of Louis Pasteur". But this was rectified when Macron recently opened a new Sanofi factory capable of producing 500 million doses of vaccine per year.

 

 As regards France's involvement in Africa in recent years you are clearly out of date. The French Treasury has had considerable control over the economies of francophone countries of Africa post-independence because it issues their currencies, the franc CFA [the Colonial French African franc]. French interference in their internal affairs, goes as far as coups and assassination (such as that of Thomas Sankara in Burkina Faso) and has caused widespread distrust.

Macron's behaviour on a recent African trip caused outspoken negative reactions.  You can listen to it on YouTube.

 

 Another cause of African discontent is the documented corruption of three major French political parties which, through influence over the budget, arrange taxpayer-funded "aid to Africa".  This goes to French companies, typically in the construction industry, who grease the palms of local African rulers and remit substantial amounts to Swiss bank accounts in the names of INGO intermediaries.  Whence it is accessed by the political parties.

 

 I guess similar things happen with aid from other western countries.  A former senior member of the KNU told me years ago that something similar was operated by German political parties, each one linked to an NGO. Which is apparently why their aid tended to be aimed at "building bridges" with the military regime; one of their objectives being to encourage favourable attitudes to German investment.

 

You have failed to establish any link between Macron and Sanofi. All you have done is copy and paste some negative gossip from an unattributed, unreliable source. It means nothing. The claims of injury by a woman who used a drug has absolutely nothing to do with Macron. He  was not the developer of the drug, nor did he sell or distribute the product. In fact, he had no relationship to the sales of the  product. 

As for your claims of political conspiracy and blaming the inherent corruption of successive French governments  and African dictators on Macron is ridiculous. France is a washed up ex colonial presence in Africa. It lost its influence long ago.The Algerian war defeat was the final humiliation in Africa.

 

Your claims in respect to the CFA are inaccurate. The CFA has been  linked to the EURO since 1999, not the french franc. France only prints the currency at the instruction of the controlling bank, Banque Centrale des États de l'Afrique de l'Ouest), located in Dakar, Senegal. And so what if the currency is printed in France?  The Canadian Mint produces the coins for 60 countries. Does that mean that Thai fiscal policy is controlled by Canada, because Thai coins are minted there? Is Norway under the thumb of Canada too?  You won't have to worry about the issue anyway, because the CFA is to be replaced in 2027 by the new "Eco" currency. 

You are pushing your own political agenda  riddled with imagined  conspiracies. Macron has his faults, but none of what you claim has any relevance.

 

On 7/14/2025 at 5:25 PM, emptypockets said:

I seem to recall that during the heydays of ISIS/ISIL one of the leaders ordered the faithful to do something that Mohammed had done and that was to invade certain places. I don't think the do called pull factors come into it. It was a religious order and the faithful are carrying it outthere is a term used for it that I cannot remember right now. Hajj, maybe?

The term is Hijra/Hijrah - conquest via immigration.

https://network.crcna.org/topic/specialized-communities/muslim-ministry/what-hijrah-and-it-trojan-horse

3 hours ago, merck said:

The term is Hijra/Hijrah - conquest via immigration.

https://network.crcna.org/topic/specialized-communities/muslim-ministry/what-hijrah-and-it-trojan-horse

Thank you

14 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You have failed to establish any link between Macron and Sanofi. All you have done is copy and paste some negative gossip from an unattributed, unreliable source. It means nothing. The claims of injury by a woman who used a drug has absolutely nothing to do with Macron. He  was not the developer of the drug, nor did he sell or distribute the product. In fact, he had no relationship to the sales of the  product. 

As for your claims of political conspiracy and blaming the inherent corruption of successive French governments  and African dictators on Macron is ridiculous. France is a washed up ex colonial presence in Africa. It lost its influence long ago.The Algerian war defeat was the final humiliation in Africa.

 

Your claims in respect to the CFA are inaccurate. The CFA has been  linked to the EURO since 1999, not the french franc. France only prints the currency at the instruction of the controlling bank, Banque Centrale des États de l'Afrique de l'Ouest), located in Dakar, Senegal. And so what if the currency is printed in France?  The Canadian Mint produces the coins for 60 countries. Does that mean that Thai fiscal policy is controlled by Canada, because Thai coins are minted there? Is Norway under the thumb of Canada too?  You won't have to worry about the issue anyway, because the CFA is to be replaced in 2027 by the new "Eco" currency. 

You are pushing your own political agenda  riddled with imagined  conspiracies. Macron has his faults, but none of what you claim has any relevance.

 

 

You dismiss what you have not bothered to investigate in any serious manner.  Presumably because you are determined not to admit anything contrary to your preconceived opinions.

So be  it.

3 hours ago, merck said:

The term is Hijra/Hijrah - conquest via immigration.

https://network.crcna.org/topic/specialized-communities/muslim-ministry/what-hijrah-and-it-trojan-horse

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/7191/what-is-hijrah

 

Completely different meaning from the one implied.

"Hijrah (emigration) for the sake of Allah means moving from the land of shirk to the land of Islam as Muslims moved from Makkah to Madinah."

This is why there laughing at us.

 

 

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

This is why there laughing at us.

 

 

Ha ha ha ha!!  Oh dear, Barra, watching your channels again?

Do you see the headline there? In big letters no less:

Labour Grant Pakistan UNSAFE Flights to UK as blah blah blah". Saw it, right? Made you angry, right?

I know you will never get to the end of the report as you get angry at the beginning and bash your keyboard in a GB News induced rage. Here, I'll help you, the very last 5 seconds of the report they say what they need to that contradicts the entirety of the proceeding "report". They know no-one will pay attention to a rushed sentence at the end, much like a radio advert disclaimer. The last 5 seconds, here, you can listen to it, the below link takes you directly there. You only have to spend five seconds. "UK ministers do not have involvement in the decisions of the UK air safety committee". Click it and spend five seconds, please.

 

Doesn't tally with their headline of LABOUR granting UNSAFE FLIGHTS or their wider agenda does it? It is nonsense. Please click...do you think that was an impartial report having listened to the last five seconds? Just click, please, five seconds Barra, five seconds, it might open your eyes, I prepared the video and it is cued in the right place for you.
 

The UK Air Safety Committee decides who can and can't fly to the UK and they are not government controlled - that would be ridiculous wouldn't it. It has safety first and foremost, it cannot and does not have a political agenda as that would endanger all of our safety. 

The Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority has spent the last two years upgrading substantially their safety standards. 

The European Union Aviation Safety Agency lifted their ban in November 2024.

The UK Air Safety Committee held a review in March and formally cleared them in July.

A US FAA inspection team visited Pakistan in mid-March 2025 as well and conducted their own safety audit, signed a MoU and likely they'll receive CAT 1 certification again soon, much as Thai Airways did recently.

Any thoughts on LABOUR granting them UNSAFE FLIGHTS?

50 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

The Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority has spent the last two years upgrading substantially their safety standards. 

The European Union Aviation Safety Agency lifted their ban in November 2024.

The UK Air Safety Committee held a review in March and formally cleared them in July.

A US FAA inspection team visited Pakistan in mid-March 2025 as well and conducted their own safety audit, signed a MoU and likely they'll receive CAT 1 certification again soon, much as Thai Airways did recently.

So they were pretty <deleted> before then but they are OK now. We hope. 

I actually flew PIA a couple of times flying to Beijing. First time onward flight from Islamabad was delayed 24 hours. Second time we took off on time and circled round and round Islamabad as the pilot tried to retract the flaps. Couldn't landed back at Islamabad and delayed 24 hours. Return flight Via Copenhagen. The toilets in the plane were blocked and the piss was overflowing into the aisle. As we came into land at Copenhagen there as a stream of piss running down the aisle. At Copenhagen the cleaners took one look and pissed off. Never did find out where all the piss and <deleted> went when it took off. Yes a truly wonderful airline. And before you chip in, not my choice it was a tour group.

 

The only reason PIA is allowed to resume flights to the UK  was to hope Grooming Gangs mostly Pakistani could be flown back to there own Country but thats gone tits up now because the Pakistani courts have refused to recieve them back.

21 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

 

That sounds horrendous.

And no, I would not ever choose to fly PIA myself.

But I do trust the EASA and the UK CAA, so if they certify them safe I trust they are. 

10 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

The only reason PIA is allowed to resume flights to the UK  was to hope Grooming Gangs mostly Pakistani could be flown back to there own Country but thats gone tits up now because the Pakistani courts have refused to recieve them back.

No, the only reason PIA is allowed to resume flights to the UK is because the UK CAA - an independent body, did you not watch the last five seconds of the GB news "report" I linked to where they admitted this? - has certified them as safe to fly. Similar to the EASA which certified them safe last year and seemingly similar to the US FAA which re-audited them in March and is apparently not far away from regranting CAT 1 status.

No other reason. They are independent bodies as even your GB News admits (remember the five second link that you refuse to click?)

I can't believe you post videos every day and expect people to sit through them even though you don't watch them to the end yourself. And then when I link to a 5 second second clip of your own video that contradicts everything......you don't watch it. It shows you are not interested in truth, only interested in your agenda.

27 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

That sounds horrendous.

And no, I would not ever choose to fly PIA myself.

But I do trust the EASA and the UK CAA, so if they certify them safe I trust they are. 

And of course p1ss is corrosive so God knows what damage leaking p1ss is doing to the air frame. Fortunately I was forward of the toilets. I think the approach glide path is 11 degrees so the p1ss trail never made it to my row. I dread to think what it was like at like at the back of the plane when it took off again for the UK.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/16/uk-lifts-restrictions-on-pakistan-airlines-after-five-year-ban

Not just the UK but the EU as well. I find this an odd statement "The lifting of the ban on Pakistani flights by the UK is a source of relief for Pakistanis residing in Britain" Why a relief, I assume there were many other airlines from from the UK to Pakistan, Qatar for one.

"Asif also said he attributed the ban to what he described as “baseless” remarks made by former Aviation Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan." He would say they were baseless wouldn't he. 

"The Ban:

In 2020, the UK imposed a ban on Pakistani airlines, including PIA, due to safety concerns following an investigation into pilot licenses and a fatal plane crash in Karachi." Yes I remember now, they had some dodgy pilots. Let's hope that they are certified to fly some ting bigger than a Cessna.

"The other major aviation safety incident came later in 2020. It was the crash of Pakistan International Airlines Flight 8303, in May. There were 98 fatalities from this accident, one of which was a person on the ground. The incident had further repercussions, including a fake license scandal and the blacklisting of PIA by EASA" Proper pilots now I suppose.

News items are being shown today of migrants throwing petrol bombs at french police last night and today gangs from that Camp have just been seen disembarking in Dover Harbour from being picked up in the Channel. These are the ones now coming into the uk.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

News items are being shown today of migrants throwing petrol bombs at french police last night and today gangs from that Camp have just been seen disembarking in Dover Harbour from being picked up in the Channel. These are the ones now coming into the uk.

Just what the UK needs high caliber skilled migrants. We can't get enough of them can we.

 

Not many in this Boat evading a piss poor response from the Frogs. Can't see many kids or females onboard can you ?

 

 

Onto the next Journey to France, then onto the rubber Boats for Blighty.

 

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Not many in this Boat evading a piss poor response from the Frogs. Can't see many kids or females onboard can you ?

 

 

 

I think evading might be the wrong word here.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Not many in this Boat evading a piss poor response from the Frogs. Can't see many kids or females onboard can you ?

 

 

So that is what we pay the French three quarters of a billion pounds a year for.