17 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Stop deflecting away from the topic. This is a huge story where a President who has lost the election is accused of manufacturing a bogus intelligence report when he was the lame duck to discredit the legitimacy of an election, the newly elected President and the will of the people.

I'm a bit confused - did Obama lose an election? I don't think he was standing in 2016?

 

I was rather under the impression that he won both of the elections he ran in, 2008 and 2012? 

 

I seem to recall that the major conspiracy at that time was a fat orange man from New York, with an unsavoury past regarding "interests" in young girls insisting that Mr Obamah wasn't born in the USA?

2 minutes ago, JAG said:

I'm a bit confused - did Obama lose an election? I don't think he was standing in 2016?

 

I was rather under the impression that he won both of the elections he ran in, 2008 and 2012? 

 

I seem to recall that the major conspiracy at that time was a fat orange man from New York, with an unsavoury past regarding "interests" in young girls insisting that Mr Obamah wasn't born in the USA?

It's about manufacturing an intelligence report to discredit Trump and call into question the legitimacy of the election result. Try and stay on topic.

22 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

It's about manufacturing an intelligence report to discredit Trump and call into question the legitimacy of the election result. Try and stay on topic.

It’s about a distraction.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-fascist-doj-go-after-obama-1235391240/

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s about a distraction.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-fascist-doj-go-after-obama-1235391240/

Do you agree the dems and the press trumped up Russia, Russia, Russia?

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s about a distraction.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-fascist-doj-go-after-obama-1235391240/

Sure. Not about manufacturing an intelligence report then. You hang on to that thought and disregard any evidence that might show this was the case. As for Epstein the Supreme Court tapes will be released. Another distraction I'm sure.

7 minutes ago, TedG said:

Do you agree the dems and the press trumped up Russia, Russia, Russia?

I do.

 

But that’s neither treason.

 

And no, I’m not going to be distracted.

Trump Accuses Obama of Treason, Shares AI-Arrest Video in Explosive Claim

 

Russia-gate was a hoax and it is pretty obvious that the intent was to subvert the Trump presidency at the highest levels. That is the definition of treason. My guess is there is smoke where their is fire as there is too much evidence and too many key players have been suppressing that evidence and lying about it which is perjury.  If nothing else I'm expecting to see the DOJ move on perjury convictions as evidence is compiled for charges related to the upper level of the Obama administration conspiring to oust Trump from office during his first term using fabricated evidence.  Everyone deserves their day in court to present evidence to establish their innocence and for the DOJ to establish their cases beyond a reasonable doubt.

Let the games begin.  I've been saying since Trump's first term that the Left should have never engaged in Lawfare.  This is the end result. The let the Lawfare genie out of its bottle and it now is coming for them.  Personally my feeling is that The Swamp will not prosecute their own, so I don't actually think this will go anywhere.  A few staff members will get thrown under the bus like they were during Trump's first term. They'll be bluster about going after Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and Obama and his administration, and the Clintons - but The Swamp protects their own.  I doubt this ever gets to trial. 

By the way, the AI-Arrest video was utterly childish.  I'm embarrass for what the leadership of the United States have become.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Trump is desperate.

The Epstein thing is seriously hurting him and it is not and will not go away.

He's on a diversion program on steroids to try to steer the public's attention on ANYTHING else.

 

 

So trumps delfecting from Epstein, Not media deflecting from obama

In WHAT <DELETED> WORLD is this considered normal? Have we REALLY become so desensitized to lunacy that this behavior is considered acceptable?

<deleted> !

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Trump is desperate.

The Epstein thing is seriously hurting him and it is not and will not go away.

He's on a diversion program on steroids to try to steer the public's attention on ANYTHING else.

 

 

 

I think you are correct.

 

Nevertheless, Obama is finished as is the rest of that tentacle of Deep State.

 

Smoking Gun email chain

 

Would love to see Hillary Clinton do time.

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

In WHAT <DELETED> WORLD is this considered normal? Have we REALLY become so desensitized to lunacy that this behavior is considered acceptable?

<DELETED> !

I believe Obama was exceptional. He would not claim that Russia hacked the US election.

1 minute ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

 Can you explain how this “thing” is hurting him?  

 

He's not releasing Epstein documents for whatever reason.

 

It will die down. Americans forget quickly unfortunately. Too much drama feeding themselves at this point

 

Yet, this will always be on back burner.

Just now, nick supreme said:

I believe Obama was exceptional. He would not claim that Russia hacked the US election.

 

But that's not the case.

 

The issue is everywhere on the internet. Read up

 

HE initiated a full blown conspiracy to ...

 

* Damage Trump's presidency

 

* Possibly influence 2020 election

Just now, KhaoHom said:

 

But that's not the case.

 

The issue is everywhere on the internet. Read up

 

HE initiated a full blown conspiracy to ...

 

* Damage Trump's presidency

 

* Possibly influence 2020 election

You hate a strong black man. 

Just now, nick supreme said:

You hate a strong black man. 

Correct, Big Mike scares me.

 

1 minute ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Doesn’t answer my question to JT but thanks anyway.

 

His base is totally ape-shi+ about releasing the docs. Simples.

 

Epstein was a freelance money launderer and blackmailer. Ties definitely with Israeli intelligence. Docs will probably also point to CIA money laundering as well. Also exposing all sorts of politicians not for HJ from 17yos, but high crimes, funding espionage, Israel, money laundering

4 minutes ago, nick supreme said:

You hate a strong black man. 

 

Lol the troll

 

That strong black man screwed the American people and hopefully is going to jail. He can be strong there

 

Beep beep 🤡🚗

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

It's about manufacturing an intelligence report to discredit Trump and call into question the legitimacy of the election result. Try and stay on topic.

I am on topic. You said that Obamah lost the election, he wasn't even running in it!

3 minutes ago, JAG said:

I am on topic. You said that Obamah lost the election, he wasn't even running in it!

 

I didn't state that at all.

 

I stated he conspired against Trump (in his last days in office)

 

Just read up. Soon you probably will have the email to have a look at as well so it's pretty concrete. Stop crying and start reading

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

"Help" may not be correct if what is coming out is proven to be the case. If it is then "help" becomes "manufactured".

Fabricating evidence is illegal and undermines the intelligence services, the Republic as a whole, destroys the integrity of the judiciary, and creates a massive hole in national security . If you just start making evidence to support a equally fabricated crime - well, kiss your Constitutional Republic goodbye. This needs to be prosecuted and let the chips fall where they may. 

47 minutes ago, nick supreme said:

I believe Obama was exceptional. He would not claim that Russia hacked the US election.

 

In the December before he would step down Obama had some Russian embassies/consulates shut down and sent home, in a fairly quiet way.  Did not elaborate on the reason, just 'you guys get the hell out."  Well, publicly that is.  Does being against Russia equate to being against DT? 

You can tell DT knows he stinks about something when he keeps bringing things up, like russiarussiarussia, Mueller report, Steele dossier.  He thinks that reminding people how he claims these as victories will cause them to say "oh yeah, the Mueller report, everybody knows that was fake."  I hear him bring these up every week or two.  All of these things deserve a second look, which  should have been initiated by Garland.

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, KhaoHom said:

 

I didn't state that at all.

 

I stated he conspired against Trump (in his last days in office)

 

Just read up. Soon you probably will have the email to have a look at as well so it's pretty concrete. Stop crying and start reading

No you didnt say that.

 

@dinsdale said it.

 

Unless of course, and here's a thought, you and him are actually the same person!

Oops!

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Russia, Russia, Russia. A more detailed look at this rather than the deflection line taken in the article.

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration knew before and after the 2016 election that Russia did not affect the vote’s outcome through cyberattacks, according to a bombshell document released by the Trump administration Friday.

Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard made public more than 100 pages of emails, memos and other records cataloguing what she called Obama officials’ “conspiracy to subvert President Trump’s 2016 victory.”

Both before and after Democrat Hillary Clinton’s loss, the US Intelligence Community assessed that Russia played no significant role influencing the election.

Among the documents was a Sept. 12, 2016, Intelligence Community Assessment that determined “foreign adversaries do not have and will probably not obtain the capabilities to successfully execute widespread and undetected cyber attacks” on election infrastructure.

On Dec. 7, 2016, then-DNI James Clapper’s office also concluded: “Foreign adversaries did not use cyberattacks on election infrastructure to alter the US Presidential election outcome” and “We have no evidence of cyber manipulation of election infrastructure intended to alter results.”

Other findings, prepared the following day for Obama’s Presidential Daily Brief, only pointed to the “likely” hacking of an Illinois voter registration database that did not affect the electoral count and was “unsuccessfully attempted” in other states.

“Criminal activity also failed to reach the scale and sophistication necessary to change election outcomes,” the draft of the brief stated.

But those findings were suppressed after the FBI — led by Director James Comey — said it was going to “dissent” from the draft’s conclusions “based on some new guidance.”

Clapper then spearheaded an alternative intelligence report claiming the Kremlin orchestrated hackings of Democratic National Committee emails, thousands of which were later posted online by Wikileaks, and intervened in the presidential contest in favor of Trump.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/18/us-news/obama-admin-assessed-russia-played-no-role-in-2016-election-declassified-documents-show/

Another Epstein deflection with AI generated fake news of Trump.

28 minutes ago, JAG said:

I am on topic. You said that Obamah lost the election, he wasn't even running in it!

Fair call but Obama was still the president albeit lame duck and the intention was to discredit the election victory over Clinton.

12 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Another Epstein deflection with AI generated fake news of Trump.

The classified documents now declassified are obvioulsly not AI. The dirt is coming out and the only defence against it on here is "deflection" and "AI". Pitiful.

 

 

Perhaps we should regard this accusation of treason against President Obama, taken together with the imbecilic use of the fake video of his arrest, as marking the completion of a remarkable achievement by President Trump - in no more than 6 months he has managed to shred, destroy and remove any respect for, integrity within and dignity of the Office of The Presidency of The United States (the first of the 3 coequal branches of government). He has also emasculated Congress (the second) and established a precedent for ignoring the courts (the third). All as well as instituting effective detention without trial, putting troops on the streets and opening concentration camps (that deals with the Constitution)!

 

There really is very little left amidst the wreckage - they can't even grow bananas!

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump’s remarks came after a criminal referral related to the Obama administration was submitted by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard to the Department of Justice.

Trump will end up looking silly basing on Tulsi Gabbard's referral. She is completely unfit and unqualified for the position as director of National Intelligence. The referral look rushed with a pre-ordained conclusion to distract from the Epstein public uproar. As a former CIA analyst officer, Fulton Armstrong commented to the Guardian that the report show confusion and probability which lead to sloppiness and manipulation. Strong rebuke from him that Tulsi's report is such a <deleted> and amateurish and will undercut the whole document. 

 

“She’s clever to use crappy precedents and confusion to make her case, but an issue like Russian manipulation of US elections, with so many analysts from diverse organizational cultures, is almost certainly going to leave enough offal on the floor that anyone who wanted to make a one-sided political slam job can find enough to fill an 11-page paper.”

1 hour ago, KhaoHom said:

 

He's not releasing Epstein documents for whatever reason.

 

It will die down. Americans forget quickly unfortunately. Too much drama feeding themselves at this point

 

Yet, this will always be on back burner.

He has said that releasing names of people connected to Epstein 

 

27 minutes ago, JAG said:

Perhaps we should regard this accusation of treason against President Obama, taken together with the imbecilic use of the fake video of his arrest, as marking the completion of a remarkable achievement by President Trump - in no more than 6 months he has managed to shred, destroy and remove any respect for, integrity within and dignity of the Office of The Presidency of The United States (the first of the 3 coequal branches of government). He has also emasculated Congress (the second) and established a precedent for ignoring the courts (the third). All as well as instituting effective detention without trial, putting troops on the streets and opening concentration camps (that deals with the Constitution)!

 

There really is very little left amidst the wreckage - they can't even grow bananas!

Thats from your anti Trump point of view.

He got elected... twice... because the majority were fed up with how things were.

You done like or agree with him. So you will never understand.

Pay attention, the acts that they accuse others of is possibly a chronicle of their own actions.  There's a lot about Tulsi to look into, like why RT loves her.  Fox loves her too -- what do these two networks have in common?
 

 

1 hour ago, JAG said:

Perhaps we should regard this accusation of treason against President Obama, taken together with the imbecilic use of the fake video of his arrest, as marking the completion of a remarkable achievement by President Trump - in no more than 6 months he has managed to shred, destroy and remove any respect for, integrity within and dignity of the Office of The Presidency of The United States (the first of the 3 coequal branches of government). He has also emasculated Congress (the second) and established a precedent for ignoring the courts (the third). All as well as instituting effective detention without trial, putting troops on the streets and opening concentration camps (that deals with the Constitution)!

 

There really is very little left amidst the wreckage - they can't even grow bananas!

 

Except it's not. You need to stop posting this rubbish. It's either you not of a clear head and in total denial or just posting subterfuge and disinformation.

 

Get used to sucking the starfish for the next decade or more. The Democratic / liberal agenda has completely crashed and burned

 

Obama is guilty af - the email evidence is damning that's why Trump outright calling for jail and posting pics of Obama cuffed. Absolute denial.

 

Despite what you think of him he decided against prosecuting Hillary Clinton merely because she was the president's wife ... estranged even. He definitely has a moral compass which infuriates the swamp.