Japan just got their tariffs lowered to 15%

[simple1]

On 7/23/2025 at 8:29 PM, angryguy said:

Trump making deals with the most important economies first as i predicted. Who wants to make a bet Thailand will be stuck with a 36% tariff on their goods?

 

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/trump-announces-'massive'-japan-trade-deal-including-15-tariff

 

US automakers are very unhappy with the "deal" as the tariff agreed is less than that imposed on Canadian and Mexican car automotive imports. Also I would be intrigued to know why Japanese would eat rice imported from the US. While talking about Trump trade deals why would Australians order more beef from the US as they have been able to do so since 2019. I've never seen US beef in Australian shops, but Australia has exported approx $3 billion a year to USA.. As usual Trump lies as the deal specifically is for beef imported by the US from Canada and Mexico then slaughtered for export in the US this is what the prior ban was for. (I assume fattened in US yards) Overall doesn't sound like great deal making by Trump, quite the opposite. Be interested in the facts about claiming Japan will be investing $500 billion in the US and creating hundreds of thousands of jobs - L)L

[simple1]

6 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Trumps making America great again!

 

Art of the deal

 

While Biden sent pallets of cash to facilitate Irans nuclear program.

 

Big difference 

 

BS It was Iran's money.

[norsurin]

Thailand will get what they deserve!

[ThreeCardMonte]

13 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

BS It was Iran's money.

 

13 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

BS It was Iran's money.

Sure it was.

[candide]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Just can't give the guy any credit can ya. 

It's just the usual PR about the usual Japanese investment level in the U.S. Nothing to bragged about. Japan invested more than that under Biden. 

[ThreeCardMonte]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

It's just the usual PR about the usual Japanese investment level in the U.S. Nothing to bragged about. Japan invested more than that under Biden. 

And you’ll make up a graph and spreadsheet just to prove it.  Correct?

[SMIAI]

@frank83628 You cannot even spell "pedal"! What a thicko! No surprise your comments are on the level of a five year old.

I wrote exactly what I meant. Trump LIES about the deals for his domestic audience. The Japanese leave him to do it, as it doesn't hurt them at all.

The Softbank investment was on the cards anyway. Even Scott Bessent states that Japan got the 'lower tariff' because they offered an 'innovative solution' for financing . In other words, they are going to lend the USA money for US projects.

Nothing new.

 

 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Sure it was.

 

Facts:....

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/05/posts-misrepresent-unfreezing-of-16-billion-in-iranian-funds/

[SMIAI]

Trump is a snake oil salesman. The only people who don't understand that, are his idiot followers.

[frank83628]

13 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

@frank83628 You cannot even spell "pedal"! What a thicko! No surprise your comments are on the level of a five year old.

I wrote exactly what I meant. Trump LIES about the deals for his domestic audience. The Japanese leave him to do it, as it doesn't hurt them at all.

The Softbank investment was on the cards anyway. Even Scott Bessent states that Japan got the 'lower tariff' because they offered an 'innovative solution' for financing . In other words, they are going to lend the USA money for US projects.

Nothing new.

 

 

I con spell perfactly will, however I don't always check before sending.

Rest of you comment is boll o x

[candide]

1 hour ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

And you’ll make up a graph and spreadsheet just to prove it.  Correct?

And you are still going on with your empty trolling posts....🤣

[SMIAI]

@frank83628 As I wrote earlier, level of an unruly five year old. Not much in the way of intelligence at all. Just a sheep who is easily led and not worth the time trying to debate. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing. You can only see life in one way. sad...for you.

Try to look at all possible options, rather than looking for problems to fit your solution.

[John Drake]

On 7/23/2025 at 6:44 PM, cjinchiangrai said:

Hardly the first. The first in this thread is the idea that Trump knows what he is doing.

 

He knows what he's doing, QE and Fed bashing to pump up his ETFs, meme coin scams, limited edition trump sneakers and watches scams, juniors exclusive DC club that costs $500k to join scam, the Qatar Boeing gift, etc.

[annotator]

Actually, one big problem with this is that American automobile makers might end up being more highly taxed than the Japanese. What with the 50% tariff on steel and aluminum and the 25% tax on imported parts from Mexico and Canada. I think the tariff on the Japanese autos should at least match the tariffs imposed on Mexico and Canada.

[CallumWK]

Here we go again.

 

Didn't I say to wait until Japan responds to Trump's serial lies of trade deals?

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-us-japan-differ-on-trade-deal-profits-trump-raises-tariff-baseline-rate-200619432.html

 

US, Japan differ on trade-deal profits; Trump raises tariff baseline rate

 

The US-Japan trade deal may already be under pressure, as reports on Friday suggest the two sides disagree on how to split profits from Japan's $550 billion investment into the US.

 

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

6 hours ago, candide said:

And you are still going on with your empty trolling posts....🤣

Waiting for your made up graph.

[candide]

2 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Waiting for your made up graph.

Trolling broken record...🤣

[zmisha]

Japanese leader committed political seppuku after this deal. I think that's not enough. He should do a real seppuku.

[ThreeCardMonte]

33 minutes ago, candide said:

Trolling broken record...🤣

blah blah blah 

[MicroB]

An economist analyses the Japan trade deal;

 

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-art-of-the-really-stupid-deal

 

 

 

 

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these costs haven’t been fully passed on to consumers, probably in part because businesses have been expecting tariffs to come down. But once businesses see how high tariffs on Japan and Europe are after they’ve made deals, their willingness to absorb the tariffs rather than passing them on to consumers will evaporate.

 

has imposed a 25 percent tariff on all automotive imports, supposedly on national security grounds. This includes imports from Canada and Mexico. And here’s the thing: Canadian and Mexican auto products generally have substantial U.S. “content” — that is, they contain parts made in America. Japanese cars generally don’t.

But now cars from Japan will pay only a 15 percent tariff, that is, less than cars from Canada and Mexico.

 

we may nonetheless now be in a situation where cars whose production doesn’t create U.S. manufacturing jobs will pay a lower tariff rate than cars whose production does.

Wait, there’s more. Trump has also imposed 50 percent tariffs on steel and aluminum, which are of course important parts of the cost of a car. Japanese manufacturers don’t pay those tariffs.

Overall, the interaction between this Japan deal and Trump’s other tariffs probably tilts the playing field between U.S. and Japanese producers of cars, and perhaps other products, in Japan’s favor.

 

 

[vinny41]

On 7/23/2025 at 11:36 PM, CallumWK said:

 

Well, I'm not an American, and neither are you, but the people that are disadvantaged and explaining their frustrations are Americans, and probably have voted for the clown in charge.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/toyota-honda-nissan-stocks-soar-on-trade-pact-as-big-3-say-its-a-bad-deal-152730362.html

 

“Any deal that charges a lower tariff for Japanese imports with virtually no US content than the tariff imposed on North American-built vehicles with high US content is a bad deal for US industry and US auto workers,” Matt Blunt of the American Automotive Policy Council (AAPC), a trade group representing the Big Three, said to Automotive News.

 

Ford CEO Jim Farley has argued in the past that if Trump strikes a similar deal with Korea, for example, it would again reward those automakers who make only some of their vehicles in the US and North America and punish domestic automakers who build in Mexico and Canada.

 

On Tuesday GM reported Q2 earnings took a $1.1 billion hit due to Trump’s tariffs, and Stellantis revealed on Monday that it lost $2.7 billion in the first half of the year due to a combination of lagging sales and tariffs.

Matt Blunt forgot to mention that cars built in Canada or Mexico and are usmca compliant vehicles are tariff free

USMCA-compliant vehicles are those that meet the requirements of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement regarding regional value content, labor value content, and steel and aluminum sourcing. These vehicles, primarily passenger vehicles and light trucks, can qualify for preferential tariff treatment under USMCA, potentially avoiding tariffs. 

Car A USMCA-compliant pre tariff cost $100,000 built in  Canada or Mexico 75% of the car is tariff free so tariffs are only applied on 25% of car

Car A USMCA-compliant pre tariff cost $100,000 deduct $75,000 25% tariff applies on the 25% non USMCA-compliant total cost including tariffs $106,250

Car B built in Japan pre tariff cost $100,000 plus 15% tariff equals $115,000 so Japanese  car import is $8,750 more expensive than a USMCA-compliant with 25% non USMCA-compliant value

At least 75% of the vehicle's value must originate from the U.S., Canada, or Mexico

[bamnutsak]

On 7/23/2025 at 5:29 PM, angryguy said:

Trump making deals with the most important economies first as i predicted.

 

Oh my, you're a regular Nosrtadamus. Now give us the winning lottery number.

 

There is no "deal" - that is a signed document, which is legal and binding - with Japan.

 

Ishiba rules out joint document on U.S. tariffs as deal's details trickle out

 

There is no plan to issue a joint document on the tariff agreement reached between Japan and the United States earlier this week, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba has said, even as numerous details about the deal remain unclear.

 

Opposition parties criticized the Japanese government for failing to issue a joint statement on the agreement. They also urged the government to compile a supplementary budget plan, citing the need for economic measures to cushion the tariff impact.

 

On the purchase of 100 Boeing aircraft, the prime minister said that the government took the decision after consulting with Japan Airlines and All Nippon Airways.

U.S. President Donald Trump has said that the U.S. side will receive 90% of profits from $550 billion in investments from Japan. He also has said that the U.S. government will examine the execution of the agreement every quarter.

 

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2025/07/26/ishiba-us-tariffs-agreement-unclear/

 

 

 

Yes, there are the "concepts" of a deal, but nothing is completed.

 

And of course, Congress must approve trade deals.

 

Some folks swollow trump's bs, then regurgitate it.

 

In fact, there are no new deals completed. "The letter is the deal" is just an idiotic comment coming from easily the stupdiest President ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

Oh my, you're a regular Nosrtadamus. Now give us the winning lottery number.

 

There is no "deal" - that is a signed document, which is legal and binding - with Japan.

 

Ishiba rules out joint document on U.S. tariffs as deal's details trickle out

 

There is no plan to issue a joint document on the tariff agreement reached between Japan and the United States earlier this week, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba has said, even as numerous details about the deal remain unclear.

 

Opposition parties criticized the Japanese government for failing to issue a joint statement on the agreement. They also urged the government to compile a supplementary budget plan, citing the need for economic measures to cushion the tariff impact.

 

On the purchase of 100 Boeing aircraft, the prime minister said that the government took the decision after consulting with Japan Airlines and All Nippon Airways.

U.S. President Donald Trump has said that the U.S. side will receive 90% of profits from $550 billion in investments from Japan. He also has said that the U.S. government will examine the execution of the agreement every quarter.

 

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2025/07/26/ishiba-us-tariffs-agreement-unclear/

 

 

 

Yes, there are the "concepts" of a deal, but nothing is completed.

 

And of course, Congress must approve trade deals.

 

Some folks swollow trump's bs, then regurgitate it.

 

In fact, there are no new deals completed. "The letter is the deal" is just an idiotic comment coming from easily the stupdiest President ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Never before have you so avidly scrutinised a politician, especially one of another country to your own.... just goes to show how deep the syndrome goes

[SMIAI]

@frank83628 On defence but with no intelligence 😊

[Tug]

On 7/23/2025 at 3:29 AM, angryguy said:

Trump making deals with the most important economies first as i predicted. Who wants to make a bet Thailand will be stuck with a 36% tariff on their goods?

 

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/trump-announces-'massive'-japan-trade-deal-including-15-tariff

Oh goody now everything I buy from japan just went up 15% thanks trump for the extra tax!!atta boy drive up prices and stifle competition.

[SMIAI]

Again, it was just a bunch of BS. The actual equity investment is going to be 1 to 2% of the US$550 billion. So the profits to which Trump was referring, is from what is generated from that 1 to 2%. The rest of that figure is made up of loans and guarantees.

[ThreeCardMonte]

On 7/25/2025 at 12:33 AM, SMIAI said:

Trump is a snake oil salesman. The only people who don't understand that, are his idiot followers.

You seem to be obsessed with Trump.

 

Like a scorned, toxic ex-lover.

 

You’re not a USC are you?  I can tell.

 

The syndrome runs deep.

[ThreeCardMonte]

15 hours ago, Tug said:

Oh goody now everything I buy from japan just went up 15% thanks trump for the extra tax!!atta boy drive up prices and stifle competition.

 Buy American.

[ThreeCardMonte]

On 7/26/2025 at 1:05 AM, SMIAI said:

@frank83628 On defence but with no intelligence 😊

Pot, Kettle, Black 

[theshu25]

How did the con mans tariffs go with the penquins on that island,did the penquins agree to the tariff or are they waiting for the taco man to give in.