14 minutes ago, retayl said:

More likely Biden was protecting Clinton, Trump is protecting Trump! The reality is both Democrats & Republicans are on that list, Epstein didn’t give a rats an$$ about their politics.

 

Of course there are too many high profile names in these files, and that is why they never will see the daylight.

Prince Andrew was unlucky that one of the victims sued him, and there was too much video evidence in the public domain already, to burry it.

You can't blame the disgusting piece of filth but she shouldn't be given anything after putting those victims through the perverts actions, I hope she rots in jail...

6 hours ago, JAG said:

To be honest, he rather outed himself with that astonishing TV interview!

 

A performance so self entitled, self centred, narcissistic and bearing only a passing relationship with the truth as to be "Trumpian".

 

Trump is now doing the same, albeit in slow motion! Witness today's relevations that "Epstein stole my people" -  how amazing, narcissistic and seemingly typical, that "Epstein stole these girls from me", painting himself' for goodness' sake as the victim!  Children, trafficked for sex from your club, with it seems your knowledge. You are not the victim, you are not innocent. 

If they were indeed 'stolen' as the orange mysoginst claims, why didn't he report the theft to the police...

I would be fine with immunity for crimes she hasn’t been prosecuted for that would see the light of day during her testimony, as long as she still does the full 20 years she got! 

12 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

A child predator making demands? The gall of the monster!

It worked previously for Epstein's PNA but, ... that was long before so much has come out since his early Palm Beach days.

40 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

 

 

She will get her pardon without naming anyone, either because she will not be allowed to testify, or she will get suicidal.

For sure they will not risk to let her testify, as they don't know what she gonna say, but I believe that if she starts talking she will take everyone down with her

6 hours ago, atpeace said:

So you think people aren't ready to consume this info and should be shielded from the videos? I think they should be released to the public. I know I can deal with it even if it tarnishes people I support today.

Video footage not to be released to protect the victims. They do not have to be seen by the general public to be validated as fact and naming the adults involved ... IMHO.

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

You said that last week (Saturday).

 

But a better comedy line would be someone arranging her demise via Las Cubanas:

 

Extortion attempt leaves Maxwell fearing for safety in prison
Two years ago, Maxwell ran into issues with two women known within the prison walls as "Las Cubanas."

 

Maxwell is a vegan and arranged for a kitchen worker to sneak her extra fruit, vegetables and tofu in exchange for items she bought with her commissary orders, as previously reported by The Daily Mail.

 

In response to the threat, the pair was moved to a different unit, but a source told the Daily Mail the two have a reputation within the prison’s walls for being mean and holding a grudge.

 

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/state/2025/07/25/inside-ghislaine-maxwell-life-behind-bars-in-tallahassee/85347239007/

 

 

So Ghislaine teaches etiquette class in jail.

 

"Before you rub the man's feet, make sure to open your blouse so he can appreciate your bosom".

 

 

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Why didn't Biden release the list? Surely he would have done it if it incriminated Trump and not any Democrats? 

 

He had far more time to do it than Trump has had so far. 

 

Maybe Biden was protecting Trump? 😆

Wait, wasn't trump President after the Palm Beach charges, PNA, Epstein first sentence? Does this not beg the question why friend trump was silent as a Palm Beach neighbor who had Epstein visiting Mar a Lago when Virginia was a 16 year old spa employee who Epstein "stole"? After scanning Epstein's "little black book", (I view that as a collection of names not necessarily incriminating anyone) and after reading, "Filithy Rich" I do feel more grounded concerning Epstein but I await documented evidence more than trump flying with Melania on the "Lolita Express" or Bill Clinton given a flight to Africa.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bad-situation-expert-warns-trump-in-legal-jeopardy-with-significant-epstein-admission/ar-AA1JxsNJ?ocid=socialshare

 

47 is his own worst enemy, but at this point, nothing matters until something substantial is the result. Without question, this whole Epstein files incident will not end well for 47. It simply won't. When innocent children are involved, it does not matter what your politics are. Evil is as evil does. And Epstein was pure evil. 47 is not saying that loud enough or often enough. Instead, his beef with Epstein was 'stealing' people. Really? It smells bad because it is bad.

Many of the girls allegedly trafficked were more than happy to take the money they were paid at the time. Now they want more money in retrospect. Only Ghislaine is in jail for her involvement, no one else. I'm not sure she deserved such a long sentence, and personally I feel she should be released soon.

19 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Wait, wasn't trump President after the Palm Beach charges, PNA, Epstein first sentence? Does this not beg the question why friend trump was silent as a Palm Beach neighbor who had Epstein visiting Mar a Lago when Virginia was a 16 year old spa employee who Epstein "stole"? After scanning Epstein's "little black book", (I view that as a collection of names not necessarily incriminating anyone) and after reading, "Filithy Rich" I do feel more grounded concerning Epstein but I await documented evidence more than trump flying with Melania on the "Lolita Express" or Bill Clinton given a flight to Africa.

Trump threw Epstein out of Mar a Logo over 20 years ago. 

2 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Trump threw Epstein out of Mar a Logo over 20 years ago. 

Yeah. Epstein nicked too many of the young girls Trump was after.

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Trump threw Epstein out of Mar a Logo over 20 years ago. 

 

It is well documented why he threw him out of Mar a lago, and the real reason is not what he claims.

The real reason is because Epstein was bidding for the same property Trump wanted, and it cost Trump a lot of extra money to outbid him

11 hours ago, AlexRich said:

If she clearly states that Donald J Trump took no part in the Epstein activities she'll be given a pardon by said Trump.

Says who?

11 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

11 hours ago, AlexRich said:

If she clearly states that Donald J Trump took no part in the Epstein activities she'll be given a pardon by said Trump. That's why Trump's lawyer (now DOJ official)  is meeting up with her. There are no coincidences. 

States where?

Nowhere.  He made it up.

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

13 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

A child predator making demands? The gall of the monster!

^This.

Let her rot in prison.

Why when her appeal is not over?

8 hours ago, JAG said:

To be honest, he rather outed himself with that astonishing TV interview!

 

A performance so self entitled, self centred, narcissistic and bearing only a passing relationship with the truth as to be "Trumpian".

 

Trump is now doing the same, albeit in slow motion! Witness today's relevations that "Epstein stole my people" -  how amazing, narcissistic and seemingly typical, that "Epstein stole these girls from me", painting himself' for goodness' sake as the victim!  Children, trafficked for sex from your club, with it seems your knowledge. You are not the victim, you are not innocent. 

Total nonsense.  Trump did not claim that Epstein "stole his girls from me", he alleged that Epstein poached his staff.  There has never been any allegation that there were "children sex-trafficked from Mar-a-Lago".

 

 

 

Rather ironic that a convicted criminal sat in a federal jail is currently one of the most powerful people in the US.

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Says who?

 

Difficult concept.....but most people on here are expressing opinions, frustrations, letting off steam and grinding axes.

 

They are not in a court of over which you alone preside, whilst giving expert evidence.

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

It is well documented why he threw him out of Mar a lago, and the real reason is not what he claims.

The real reason is because Epstein was bidding for the same property Trump wanted, and it cost Trump a lot of extra money to outbid him

Whatever the reason, Trump threw Epstein out. As far as I know they never met again, but I could be wrong about that.

6 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Whatever the reason, Trump threw Epstein out. As far as I know they never met again, but I could be wrong about that.

 

 

Wrong

 

 

 

 

"Ghislaine Maxwell’s Staggering Demands for Congressional Testimony"

 

I don't see any of her demands as 'staggering'

Clearly she doesn't want to hang herself in a jail cell while the camera's are accidently turned off.

And trading testimony for freedom, is what imprisoned people do.

7 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Whatever the reason, Trump threw Epstein out. As far as I know they never met again, but I could be wrong about that.

It also doesn't matter if/why Trump threw him out, and if they met again, because the issue is the relation between Trump and Epstein before 2004.

 

Did you know that Virginia Giuffre, the one who successfully sued Prince Andrew for rape, even was an employee from Trump?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyvn7ee3539o

 

Asked if the employees were young women, Trump responded: "the answer is yes", and added that they were hired "out of the spa" he ran.

Trump said that one of them was Virginia Giuffre, who had said she began working at Mar-a-Lago in the summer of 2000, when she was 16.

According to court documents unsealed in 2019, Giuffre alleged she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell to give massages to Epstein while she was working at the spa.

Maxwell’s lawyer Markus, when asked by reporters about possible clemency from Trump in exchange for her cooperation with the DOJ, replied: “No offers have been made.”

 

Markus also said, “I am not going to comment on what we’re hoping for” from those discussions with Blanche.

 

The lawyer had been asked if Maxwell hoped to get some kind of deal, possibly including a recommended sentence reduction, from prosecutors.

 

(He then went on to give the oft quoted "she answered all the questions" comment.)

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/25/trump-epstein-maxwell-doj-clinton.html

2 hours ago, Wrwest said:

Video footage not to be released to protect the victims. They do not have to be seen by the general public to be validated as fact and naming the adults involved ... IMHO.

Simple edits that blackout the victims and show the adults involved.  I think there is much more than videos.  My bets is that both political  parties will have many past and present prominent members exposed.  

52 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Wrong

 

 

 

 

Secret tapes?  You aren't serious?

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Total nonsense.  Trump did not claim that Epstein "stole his girls from me", he alleged that Epstein poached his staff.  There has never been any allegation that there were "children sex-trafficked from Mar-a-Lago".

 

But then...

 

59 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

It also doesn't matter if/why Trump threw him out, and if they met again, because the issue is the relation between Trump and Epstein before 2004.

 

Did you know that Virginia Giuffre, the one who successfully sued Prince Andrew for rape, even was an employee from Trump?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyvn7ee3539o

 

Asked if the employees were young women, Trump responded: "the answer is yes", and added that they were hired "out of the spa" he ran.

Trump said that one of them was Virginia Giuffre, who had said she began working at Mar-a-Lago in the summer of 2000, when she was 16.

According to court documents unsealed in 2019, Giuffre alleged she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell to give massages to Epstein while she was working at the spa.

 

I'm not sure that there is anything staggering other than the cold hard truth that Ghislaine Maxwell either is pardoned/ commuted, or will be dead within months.

 

She knows that, and is quite simply fighting for her life