Multiple 60 day Visa Exempt entries

[hrb68]

I am a 68 yr old single male, USA citizen.  I entered Thailand on a 60 day visa exempt on Oct. 1, 2024. I stayed for 7 weeks til late November, then flew to the Philippines. I stayed there for 7 weeks and then returned to Thailand on Jan. 15, 2025 on a 60 day visa exempt. I then extended another 30 days to about April 15  making it a 90 day stay. I then did a border run by land to Cambodia with an agency and entered again on the same day on a 60 day visa exempt. I then flew back to the USA on May 21. So it was about a 126 day stay. I would like to enter Thailand again  in late September on another 60 day visa exempt. I will have by that time been out of Thailand for about 4 months. Will I get denied entry to Thailand because of multiple 60 day visa exempt entries?

[Equatorial]

 

I will defer to the more knowledgeable members, but personally, I would get a retirement-based Non O, and that gives you 90 days. I don't think the immigration at the airport ever denies entry to Non O holders. 

[DrJack54]

19 minutes ago, hrb68 said:

I will have by that time been out of Thailand for about 4 months. Will I get denied entry to Thailand because of multiple 60 day visa exempt entries?

Doubt you would be denied entry. 

The key here is next entry will be 4 months from previous entry. 

Do you obtain onward flight within 60 days for your visa exempt entries via air?  Often required by airline at departure. 

 

How long do you plan to spend in Thailand for this planned Sept trip

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, Equatorial said:

I don't think the immigration at the airport ever denies entry to Non O holders

True he wouldn't be denied entry with a Non O. 

The application would require funds in the bank. 

Also the only extension available from the Non O would be 12 months. 

A lot depends on how long he wants to stay in Thailand. 

[hrb68]

Well, a Non O is probably out because I don't have a Thai bank account. I always do have an onward ticket when entering Philippines or Thailand. I don't have any firm plans on how long I'd stay, If I stayed for 60 days that would put me at about 186 days for the year. Anything over 180 days and I am considered a Thai resident for tax purposes?

[DrJack54]

50 minutes ago, hrb68 said:

Well, a Non O is probably out because I don't have a Thai bank account

Funds do not need to be in Thai bank. 

They need to be in Thai bank for 12 month extension. 

52 minutes ago, hrb68 said:

Anything over 180 days and I am considered a Thai resident for tax purposes?

You are a tourist. Can't see you being taxed. However seems your opinion. 

 

Without clear plans it's hard to advise on best option. 

[kiwikeith]

On 8/6/2025 at 8:39 AM, hrb68 said:

I am a 68 yr old single male, USA citizen.  I entered Thailand on a 60 day visa exempt on Oct. 1, 2024. I stayed for 7 weeks til late November, then flew to the Philippines. I stayed there for 7 weeks and then returned to Thailand on Jan. 15, 2025 on a 60 day visa exempt. I then extended another 30 days to about April 15  making it a 90 day stay. I then did a border run by land to Cambodia with an agency and entered again on the same day on a 60 day visa exempt. I then flew back to the USA on May 21. So it was about a 126 day stay. I would like to enter Thailand again  in late September on another 60 day visa exempt. I will have by that time been out of Thailand for about 4 months. Will I get denied entry to Thailand because of multiple 60 day visa exempt entries?

I would ask Dr Jack, personally I would tend to think you will be okay as they can see you have left and travelled around , but then it is up to the immigration at the airport to stamp you in.

Dr Jack may know what might happen hope you can put this straight DJ.

[kiwikeith]

On 8/6/2025 at 8:58 AM, DrJack54 said:

Doubt you would be denied entry. 

The key here is next entry will be 4 months from previous entry. 

Do you obtain onward flight within 60 days for your visa exempt entries via air?  Often required by airline at departure. 

 

How long do you plan to spend in Thailand for this planned Sept trip

I usually buy a cheap ticket to Cambodia when leaving NZ as sometimes they wont let you on the plane from NZ without one, if your going for visa on arrival, but I have never been asked for onward ticket at Suvarnabhumi, maybe strike the nice officer ,but now I go through the older persons lane and usually with my son or wife who is Thai and my son speaks fluent Thai and holds a Thai passport. They always stamp me in on visa on arrival no questions, then I apply for Non O, used to be easy to get Non O from NZ consulate no questions asked in 3 days pay $350 multiple entry for one year but that's all gone now.

[DrJack54]

25 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

I usually buy a cheap ticket to Cambodia when leaving NZ as sometimes they wont let you on the plane from NZ without one, if your going for visa on arrival, but I have never been asked for onward ticket at Suvarnabhumi

Indeed the airline at departure may/will ask to see onward flight within 60 days. 

You can buy a throw away real ticket (as you do) or "Rent a ticket" Using company such as "onwardticket.com" $16usd

Immigration at arrival would hardly ever ask for onward flight. It's an airline thing. 

BTW: You are flying visa exempt. Not visa on arrival. That's a very different thing. 

 

25 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

....,but now I go through the older persons lane and usually with my son or wife who is Thai and my son speaks fluent Thai

In a way having a Thai wife with you opens immigration officer to question why you don't have correct visa (Non O)  

 

25 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

used to be easy to get Non O from NZ consulate no questions asked in 3 days pay $350 multiple entry for one year but that's all gone now

Yes the multi entry Non O (valid for 12 months) was perfect visa for some. Unfortunately no longer available. 

My understanding is that cost of Non O eVisa obtained in NZ has increased in price significantly. 

You haven't been questioned so that's a plus. 

Lot depends on how long you wish to stay in Thailand. 

 

Back to OP... on second read of his history, I see that last visit was visa exempt + extension + border bounce (same day). 

That's 5 months continuous. 

He should be questioned. 

The OP has options. 

The obvious one is a Non O with annual extensions + multi reentry permit. 

His other option is to use "safe entry services" from companies such as "Friendly Thai visa" 

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552069237778

[kiwikeith]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Indeed the airline at departure may/will ask to see onward flight within 60 days. 

You can buy a throw away real ticket (as you do) or "Rent a ticket" Using company such as "onwardticket.com" $16usd

Immigration at arrival would hardly ever ask for onward flight. It's an airline thing. 

BTW: You are flying visa exempt. Not visa on arrival. That's a very different thing. 

 

In a way having a Thai wife with you opens immigration officer to question why you don't have correct visa (Non O)  

 

Yes the multi entry Non O (valid for 12 months) was perfect visa for some. Unfortunately no longer available. 

My understanding is that cost of Non O eVisa obtained in NZ has increased in price significantly. 

You haven't been questioned so that's a plus. 

Lot depends on how long you wish to stay in Thailand. 

 

Back to OP... on second read of his history, I see that last visit was visa exempt + extension + border bounce (same day). 

That's 5 months continuous. 

He should be questioned. 

The OP has options. 

The obvious one is a Non O with annual extensions + multi reentry permit. 

His other option is to use "safe entry services" from companies such as "Friendly Thai visa" 

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552069237778

Yes the price of a non O through the NZ Embassy is a headache and very expensive, up to 1,700 dollars NZ, the Embassy is very low staffed now and it is not worth pursuing a visa through them, best to enter Thailand and get the 60 day on arrival and then get the 30 day extension apply for Non O here, that's what I had to do for the first time since I moved here in 2003, I do not bother with the Embassy in Wellington as you have to sometimes go there personally and its a long way from where I used to live, I have friends who used to stop over in Brisbane on the way to LOS and get a Non O there, don't know if that is still possible , I think applying in Thailand is now the best option.

As to Thai wife or child with you they seem to just whisk me through, sometimes a quick word to the wife, but never a problem. once asked by the IMM officer a few years ago you stay Thailand long time, many stamps, I said yes live here now and take care my Thai family, he laughed and stamped my PP.

[DrJack54]

42 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

I think applying in Thailand is now the best option.

Certainly since Non O too expensive in NZ. 

Not sure why you require the 30 day extension. 

You apply for the Non O with minimum 15 days remaining on your 60 day visa exempt entry (21 days some offices) . 

 

No seasoning required. 

That provides 90 day stamp. 

Then after the 400k in bank for two months apply for the 12 month extension. 

 

You would need a Thai bank in your name already in place as currently you won't be able to open bank account on visa exempt stamp. 

 

For those in that situation a eVisa obtained in Laos has quick turn around and would be pathway to opening Thai bank account. 

 

[Rob Browder]

2 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

usually with my son or wife who is Thai and my son speaks fluent Thai and holds a Thai passport.

Will the Thai wife or son be with you on the next entry?  That greatly lowers your odds of denied-entry. 

 

But, in general, it's a lottery.  How much pressure the IOs were given that day/week to deny-entry, to maximize sales of "safe entry services" (brown-envelope money), is unknown.   Pay them off with "safe entry" and agent-van border-bounces, and one can stay 360-days/year on visa-exempt.

[hrb68]

11 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Indeed the airline at departure may/will ask to see onward flight within 60 days. 

You can buy a throw away real ticket (as you do) or "Rent a ticket" Using company such as "onwardticket.com" $16usd

Immigration at arrival would hardly ever ask for onward flight. It's an airline thing. 

BTW: You are flying visa exempt. Not visa on arrival. That's a very different thing. 

 

In a way having a Thai wife with you opens immigration officer to question why you don't have correct visa (Non O)  

 

Yes the multi entry Non O (valid for 12 months) was perfect visa for some. Unfortunately no longer available. 

My understanding is that cost of Non O eVisa obtained in NZ has increased in price significantly. 

You haven't been questioned so that's a plus. 

Lot depends on how long you wish to stay in Thailand. 

 

Back to OP... on second read of his history, I see that last visit was visa exempt + extension + border bounce (same day). 

That's 5 months continuous. 

He should be questioned. 

The OP has options. 

The obvious one is a Non O with annual extensions + multi reentry permit. 

His other option is to use "safe entry services" from companies such as "Friendly Thai visa" 

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552069237778

Yes, I have used onwardticket.com several times when flying to Philippines or Thailand. I am always checked by my originating airport in the US and never a problem. I am also checked by Manila and ICN in Korea if I I fly from there to Thailand. Never a problem there either. I've now decided that I would like to enter Thailand in late Sept. on a 60 day visa exempt and then leave before the sixty days is up to go to the Philippines. Do you think I would have any problems at immigration if I have an onward ticket to leave within 60 days?

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, hrb68 said:

Do you think I would have any problems at immigration if I have an onward ticket to leave within 60 days?

As I posted earlier... immigration at Thailand airport rarely ask for onward flight.

It's an airline thing at departure airport to travel to Thailand.

Entering Thailand visa exempt via air is sadly a lotto.

Dependant on your history in Thailand on visa exempt entries along with time between visits.

If immigration at Thai airport has not previously given a warning to "next time get a Visa" you should be fine. 

[hrb68]

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

As I posted earlier... immigration at Thailand airport rarely ask for onward flight.

It's an airline thing at departure airport to travel to Thailand.

Entering Thailand visa exempt via air is sadly a lotto.

Dependant on your history in Thailand on visa exempt entries along with time between visits.

If immigration at Thai airport has not previously given a warning to "next time get a Visa" you should be fine. 

Yes, I realize that immigration rarely asks for an onward ticket. But I thought maybe if I showed that my intention was to leave within 60 days that they would realize I didn't plan on residing in Thailand. And, no, I have never been warned about anything with regards to Visas. In your earlier post when you stated "He should be questioned", did you mean "could" or  "should"?
 

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, hrb68 said:

In your earlier post when you stated "He should be questioned", did you mean "could" or  "should"?

Yes that was "he should be questioned"

That guy entered visa exempt + extension+ same day border bounce (using agent) 

Staying in Thailand after initial visa exempt via air then just border bounces via land ...will cause airport immigration for next visa exempt problematic 

[hrb68]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes that was "he should be questioned"

That guy entered visa exempt + extension+ same day border bounce (using agent) 

Staying in Thailand after initial visa exempt via air then just border bounces via land ...will cause airport immigration for next visa exempt problematic 

So, it is possible I could be denied entry then?

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, hrb68 said:

So, it is possible I could be denied entry then?

Anything is possible.

You seem to be maxing out time in Thailand using visa exempt entries.

If this is ongoing plan to visit Thailand often then there are alternatives.

DVT, Non O + extensions etc 

Similar question to your thread is posted every other day.

For your first entry to Thailand via air visa exempt you could consider "safe entry services" via agent.

Or at 68 obtain Non O eVisa outside of Thailand. 

[hrb68]

13 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Anything is possible.

You seem to be maxing out time in Thailand using visa exempt entries.

If this is ongoing plan to visit Thailand often then there are alternatives.

DVT, Non O + extensions etc 

Similar question to your thread is posted every other day.

For your first entry to Thailand via air visa exempt you could consider "safe entry services" via agent.

Or at 68 obtain Non O eVisa outside of Thailand. 

Well, I won't be applying for a Non O Visa from the US. Maybe I would if I was in Thailand and used an agency. I'll look into "safe entry services". Otherwise I'll just go to the Philippines instead. Easy entry there.

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, hrb68 said:

Well, I won't be applying for a Non O Visa from the US. Maybe I would if I was in Thailand and used an agency. I'll look into "safe entry services". Otherwise I'll just go to the Philippines instead. Easy entry there.

Obtaining a Non O eVisa in us does not preclude you from using agent for extensions. 

In any event here is safe entry company. 

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552069237778 

 

Thinking Philippines better fit for you. 

[hrb68]

22 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Obtaining a Non O eVisa in us does not preclude you from using agent for extensions. 

In any event here is safe entry company. 

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552069237778 

 

Thinking Philippines better fit for you. 

Ok, thank you for your help.

[thai006]

it is posible to add a re entry on a 60 days ?

i gonna go to HK few days and come back to thailand 

[DrJack54]

7 hours ago, thai006 said:

it is posible to add a re entry on a 60 days ?

i gonna go to HK few days and come back to thailand 

This question comes up. 

Assume you are referring to visa exempt entry. 

 

Some are of the opinion that any permission of stay can be protected by obtaining a reentry permit. 

However, just about anything you read points out that this is not applicable to visa exempt entries. 

 

https://www.tielandtothailand.com/thai-re-entry-permit-explained/ 

From this link (one of many examples) we find.... 

 

"This permit cannot be used if you have a Visa On Arrival or a Visa-Exempt Stamp"