1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

How many more corpses do you want? How much blood is enough to satisfy the left? I would have thought giving Russia back areas where the population identify as Russian is preferable to more killing, more maiming, more blood. What happened to the warmongering left? Quite bizarre.

 

So presumably you would be happy with giving chunks of the USA to African countries, South American countries, or countries like Italy or Israel, based on where the population hail from or the language they speak? The borders of Ukraine were drawn up at the end of the Russian Empire, and were there all through the USSR period when Ukraine was one of the Soviet Socialist Republics in the Union, not part of Russia, which was another Soviet Socialist Republic.

7 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Thank crikey you lot lost in a landslide.

What's the point of winning when your approval ratings now is down the toilet bowl. By mid next year, he may be impeached or replaced by Article 25. 

11 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Thank crikey you lot lost in a landslide.

 

1.8% difference?

 

Not a landslide, plus 350 plus electoral votes required for a landslide.....nowhere near.

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

What's the point of winning when your approval ratings now is down the toilet bowl. By mid next year, he may be impeached or replaced by Article 25. 

Pigs might fly

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

1.8% difference?

 

Not a landslide, plus 350 plus electoral votes required for a landslide.....nowhere near.

You lost. A win is a win.

This war would not have occurred if Germany and France had not vetoed Ukraine's membership in NATO in 2007. They did so because they were cultivating lucrative economic deals with Russia. They should be paying the cost of this war.

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

You lost. A win is a win.

 

 

Still not a landslide

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Still not a landslide

Yada yada

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Yada yada

 

 

Russian for I give in?

12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Pigs might fly

And Trump can't walk straight. 

25 minutes ago, Jaggg88 said:

This war would not have occurred if Germany and France had not vetoed Ukraine's membership in NATO in 2007. They did so because they were cultivating lucrative economic deals with Russia. They should be paying the cost of this war.

 

That's an interesting theory. You might well be correct.

 

On the other hand, it may have hastened a Russian invasion i.e. before Ukraine formally became a NATO member. Even if Ukraine had joined, would Article 5 have definitely been involved, given that escalation into nuclear conflict would be extremely likely?

 

We'll never know.

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

Security promises, those were in place already before Russia invaded. Trump is totally giving in.

Yes, if you're listening to Democrats or media outlets such as MSNBC, who are gleefully hailing the Alaska meeting as a complete failure. As always, they want Trump to fail at all costs. You'll never hear a word of encouragement from that twisted bunch. They would prefer WW3 rather than for Trump to succeed. 

46 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

And Trump can't walk straight. 

But your man could?🤣

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Your whole political side has NEVER offered any suggestions other than fight more. Appreciate it's uncomfortable having this pointed out. But fight fight fight because we are fizzing with hate for Trump and can't allow him to end the war that our team couldn't end. Sad. So very sad.

Actually, the very clear suggestion -- and the course that was taken, before Trump got elected -- was for the US, alongside NATO allies, to provide Ukraine with whatever support it needed to win the war. Which would have been quite possible, had we maintained that course. How long would Putin have lasted under that kind of constant pressure? In 2023, already, Yevgeny Prigozhin of the Wagner Group was marching on Moscow, and later Ukraine was strong enough to invade Russia’s Kursk region.

 

So you’re suggesting that Ukraine give up Crimea, the Donbas, plus those parts of Kherson and Zaporizhia currently occupied by the Russians (altogether a substantial percentage of the country’s land area)? Plus agree never to join NATO? Do you think that will stop the fighting? Do you think that will provide security to borderland NATO countries like Poland, Lithuania, Finland? When was the last time appeasing a dictator worked as a successful negotiating strategy? How about never -- it’s never worked. “Peace in our time.” Give me a break. Sure, the bloodshed is horrible, of Russian soldiers as much as Ukrainian. But appeasement will only lead to a lot more of it.

 

As for “fizzing with hate for Trump,” just stop it. This has nothing to do with hatred for Trump. Although Putin ate him for lunch, just like Kamala Harris said he would.

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

And exactly how can Trump stop Russia from taking the Donbas militarily because this is whats happening?

I expect he'll have some clues when the grown ups arrive from Europe later today.

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

But your man could?🤣

Dementia can significantly affect walking. Trump is displaying that weaving move on full media display. Not a good look. Article 25 awaits. 

In a nutshell….who in their right mind would trust putin or trump???please!!!are these people really that gullible?

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Dementia can significantly affect walking. Trump is displaying that weaving move on full media display. Not a good look. Article 25 awaits. 

Fdr couldn't walk.

Trump can't think.

He's all impulse and an addictive black hole need to feed his diseased narcissism.

6 hours ago, stevenl said:

If Russia were to invade let's say Estland, I would not trust NATO to retaliate.

I'd wager most of Europe would say it's not our business. 

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Dementia can significantly affect walking. Trump is displaying that weaving move on full media display. Not a good look. Article 25 awaits. 

These stuff is coming from the same crowd who denied that Joe Biden had issues. 

 Putin has broken all previous security promises and is not to be trusted. Trump needs to bring on all sanctions on Russia with an increase of military hardware to Ukraine. 

6 minutes ago, Dan747 said:

 Putin has broken all previous security promises and is not to be trusted. Trump needs to bring on all sanctions on Russia with an increase of military hardware to Ukraine. 

Only total fools don't get that.

30 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

These stuff is coming from the same crowd who denied that Joe Biden had issues. 

Joe with issues achieved more than dementia Trump. He did more for America with his major bills than just 1 BBB from Trump. He rescued the disastrous economy from Trump and handed him a strong economy. Biden foreign policies provided leadership to key allies. Trump wrecked those alliances. 
 

Joe knows his impediments and made his decisions on consensus from his staffs. Trump is an authoritarian and a narcissist and often contradict and don’t take any advise from his staffs. He bis self destructing and will hurt the country in so many ways. 

4 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So it's "woke" to be willing to fight til the end to defend your country. I guess woke is a pretty good quality then.

Thanks for pointing that out!👍

The woke aren't the ones willing to die for their country. They are the ones cheering for death and destruction. Safely by the sidelines of course.

15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He did more for America with his major bills

What did he do?

16 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Joe knows his impediments and made his decisions on consensus from his staffs. Trump is an authoritarian and a narcissist and often contradict and don’t take any advise from his staffs. He bis self destructing and will hurt the country in so many ways. 

Biden was a authoritarian and a narcissist.

3 hours ago, Jaggg88 said:

This war would not have occurred if Germany and France had not vetoed Ukraine's membership in NATO in 2007. They did so because they were cultivating lucrative economic deals with Russia. They should be paying the cost of this war.

 

This was one thing Merkel and France got right, if they'd been listened to the expansion of NATO into the USSR sphere of influence would not have happened. Merkel warned against it at the time.

 

This was all ignored and NATO pushed for eastwards expansion, so war with Russia became the end result. 

 

Should have listened to France and Germany at the time.

9 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

What did he do?

This off topic so I will be concise. You should base your argument on facts not emotion. Joe achievements on public domain that can be easily gleaned.

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody is saying that and also this has nothing to do with woke or not woke.

 

If you won't admit that the woke propaganda and the Russia bad/Ukraine good propaganda are all part of the same globalist operation then you are being intentionally myopic.  Both doctrines are being pushed by the same group attempting to condition you to accept a one world government.

 

Your contention that this has nothing to do with woke or not woke is deliberately false. This is a multi pronged attack against humanity, and they are very much intertwined.

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

This off topic so I will be concise. You should base your argument on facts not emotion. Joe achievements on public domain that can be easily gleaned.

I believe you posted a comment about Joe Biden without offering any facts to back up your statement. 

 

Joe's most impressive achievement was high inflation.    Based on the BLS CPI, the inflation rate was approximately 21% during his term.