3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Im talking about you being brainwashed by the Israeli state, and do not Think for one second what is right or wrong. An attack on Qatar soil is a war crime Period

 

   Which war crime would that be ?

I think its right to bring war criminal Hamas terrorists to justice .

Do you think that that is wrong ?

Just now, TedG said:

It's not a war crime, it's an act of war. 

 

Some would had called it an terror attack, just the matter of who is attacked 

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Yes., but it WASNT an attack on Qatar

 

Ok then, what was it?

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Ok then, what was it?

 

 Do I need to tell you who the target of the attack was ?

It was an attack on four terrorists .

Like, if you go to a bar and have  fight , you aren't attacking the bar, are you 

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

It is undermining UN

The UN is not credible these days. 

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Some would had called it an terror attack, just the matter of who is attacked 

You are off base again.  It's called an act of war. 

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 Do I need to tell you who the target of the attack was ?

It was an attack on four terrorists .

Like, if you go to a bar and have  fight , you aren't attacking the bar, are you 

 

You Sir, are absolutely clueless.

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Some would had called it an terror attack, just the matter of who is attacked 

 

    Some regard Hamas as being legitimate and they regard Israel as terrorists .

   No point in trying to change anyone's mind about who's who 

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 

You Sir, are absolutely clueless.

 

   I am not clueless at all Jeff .

It was a one off attack on four known terrorists in Qatar

It was not an attack ON Qatar

 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am not clueless at all Jeff .

It was a one off attack on four known terrorists in Qatar

It was not an attack ON Qatar

 

 

Thankyou for confirming that you are indeed clueless.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Estimates of innocent deaths since the "War on Terror" began vary significantly, but studies by the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs suggest the total number of direct deaths in post-9/11 conflicts in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen ranges from approximately 905,000 to 940,000, with indirect deaths, caused by the destruction of infrastructure and public health systems, potentially totaling 3.6 to 3.8 million. 

 

When did the war in Afghanistan start?  Back in the 1980s?     The US did invade Iraq.  What started the war in Syria and Yemen? 

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Thankyou for confirming that you are indeed clueless.

 

   Do you still support Hamas ?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you still support Hamas ?

 

No

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

No

 

   What made you change you mind ?

You previously fully supported everything they did 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What made you change you mind ?

You previously fully supported everything they did 

 

You did, or I could have had an epiphany.

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The strikes on Doha violate the United Nations Charter — breaching Qatar’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

 

The attack took place in the West Bay Lagoon area in Doha, home to many foreign embassies, schools, supermarkets and residential compounds. The region is home to Qataris as well as residents from around the world.

Qatar allow the Hamas leadership to live in luxury in their country.

The leadership of a terror organisation intent on eliminating all Jews and the state of Israel are being given safe haven in Qatar. 

You reap what you sow Qatar. 

1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

Qatar allow the Hamas leadership to live in luxury in their country.

The leadership of a terror organisation intent on eliminating all Jews and the state of Israel are being given safe haven in Qatar. 

You reap what you sow Qatar. 

 

This old testament thinking is what got Israel in trouble time and time again, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth...leave the whole world blind.

11 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

You did, or I could have had an epiphany.

 

   I did what ?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I did what ?

 

Don't tell him Pike:

 

 

 

This also shows who is the senior partner in the Israel/US axis.  And it ain't the yanks.

56 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Some would had called it an terror attack, just the matter of who is attacked 

 

Targeting terrorists, leaders of a terrorist organisation is now a War Crime ?

 

Was the targeting by the USA and Nato of Osama Bin Laden also a War Crime ? - he was killed in Pakistan, but a Saudi National.

 

Was the targeting by the USA of General Qassem Soleimani (commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps - Quds Force) also a War Crime ? he was Iranian, killed by a drone attack in Iraq.

 

Was the targeting by the USA of Abu Baqir al Saadi (a senior commander of Kataib Hezbollah) also a War Crime ? 

 

 

 

You seem to have a polished, blinkered view - conflicts like this are never clean. We live in a world where terror cells hide behind borders, shielded by states that claim neutrality. Who will stop them? You? The civilians? The USA, the IDF, and all forces committed to targeting terrorists bear a responsibility far beyond what anyone sitting safely behind a desk could comprehend.

 

The actions taken against Hamas in Qatar, severe as they may seem, are aimed at preventing attacks, protecting innocent lives, and defending the freedoms of the West. You may weep over collateral damage and question the methods - but you do not understand the lives saved through decisive action. Some threats leave no room for hesitation. They demand people willing to do what must be done, to strike at those who plan mass murder, even when the world judges harshly.

 

Yet you refuse to respect the necessity of these actions. You choose instead to stand in judgment - from the pedestal of the very freedoms these actions exist to defend (CJ - AFGM).

 

 

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Which war crime would that be ?

What actual war crime s written in the legal books ?

Just wait till they drop a dirty bomb on Tel Aviv to get rid of the butcher Nethanjahu .... than you and your Zionist friends will be crying bloody murder

27 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

This old testament thinking is what got Israel in trouble time and time again, an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth...leave the whole world blind.

 

   although if Israel didn't defend itself , then Israel would no longer exist 

Just now, Huisnblasi said:

Just wait till they drop a dirty bomb on Tel Aviv to get rid of the butcher Nethanjahu .... than you and your Zionist friends will be crying bloody murder

 

   Who will be doing that ?

Who will be dropping that dirty bomb ?

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   although if Israel didn't defend itself , then Israel would no longer exist 

 

Israel is not defending itself. It committed an aggressive act of war against a sovereign country. The same with Iran. 

 

Every time Israel embarks on an aggressive attack it's "defence"? It's a bizarro logic.

 

This strike against Qatar was an unprovoked attack.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Israel is not defending itself. It committed an aggressive act of war against a sovereign country. The same with Iran. 

 

Every time Israel embarks on an aggressive attack it's "defence"? It's a bizarro logic.

 

This strike against Qatar was an unprovoked attack.

 

   The strike in Doha was against the terrorists who organised the attack in Jerusalem a few days ago where six innocent people were murdered .

   The person killed in Doha also threatened more attacks on Israel .

It was not an act  of war on Qatar , some even suggest tht Qatar were compliant 

6 hours ago, billd766 said:

Not content with killing Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank stealing their land, Attacking the Lebanon, Syria. Iran and Yemen, Netanyahu has now attacked Qatar, a long term ally of his oldest and strongest ally. the USA. 

 

With, I suspect the collusion of Saudi Arabia which is the shortest route to Qatar. Either that or the US supplied air defence system is totally useless.

 

Saudi Arabia is also an ally of the USA.

 

 With US President Donald Trump calling the incident "unfortunate".

 

Attacking a peace delegation in a neutral sovereign country.

 

Is it just me that thinks that Netanyahu is totally crazy, and is not interested in the peace talks at all?

 

Qatar is no "ally" of the USA. It plays everyone off against the other and has been paying off terrorists for decades.

Hamas was not a "peaceful delegation". It was plotting attacks on Israel all along and has never stopped plotting and planning.

Hamas leadership is a legitimate target wherever they are.

 

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Who will be doing that ?

Who will be dropping that dirty bomb ?

Just wait, there are enough people out there who have tje means, others have the money and a third group hss the hate to do it...

1 minute ago, Huisnblasi said:

Just wait, there are enough people out there who have tje means, others have the money and a third group hss the hate to do it...

 

  Could you name the people whom you are referring to ?

Would they also risk destroying the Old City of Jerusalem and the al Aqsa Mosque ?

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Israel is not defending itself. It committed an aggressive act of war against a sovereign country. The same with Iran. 

 

Every time Israel embarks on an aggressive attack it's "defence"? It's a bizarro logic.

 

This strike against Qatar was an unprovoked attack.

It was not a strike against Qatar. No Qataris were harmed were they? Qatar has been hosting Hamas terrorists  for years, despite its claim months ago that it had asked them to leave. Don't you remember a year ago when there was much made of Qatar's expulsion of Hamas? It never happened. The Qataris lied and put on a show.  

 

The End of the Five-Star Jihad in Qatar: From the Comfort of Its Control Center in Doha, Hamas Rejected Proposals to Free All the Hostages and Rejected Deals to End the War with Israel

To understand this strike, one must understand Qatar’s role. For thirteen years, Doha served as Hamas’s global headquarters. A naive Obama administration sanctioned this arrangement in 2012, believing a communication channel was a strategic asset. Instead, it created the single greatest enabler of Hamas’s war against Israel.

Qatar was not a mediator. It was an active enabler, providing the material support that fuels any terror enterprise. This support had three pillars: financial, diplomatic, and operational.

Qatar’s patronage was direct and substantial. The state funneled over $1.8 billion to Hamas-controlled Gaza.

Financially, Qatar’s patronage was direct and substantial. The state funneled over $1.8 billion to Hamas-controlled Gaza. The world accepted the cover story of humanitarian aid. Yet Israel knew the truth. Suitcases of cash, delivered with Israeli approval in a failed policy to “buy quiet,” were meant for salaries and aid. But Israeli intelligence warned that Hamas siphoned millions directly to its military wing. The policy continued. October 7 was the price of that policy. Qatari funds helped purchase the tools of mass murder.

 

https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/the-end-of-the-five-star-jihad